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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:40 PM
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Court approves Diebold settlement with California
NORTH CANTON, Ohio - A court Friday approved Diebold Inc.'s settlement with California and its Alameda County in their lawsuit accusing the company of selling them shoddy electronic voting equipment.

Diebold and California officials in November disclosed terms of the $2.6 million settlement. Of that, $100,000 goes to Alameda County and $500,000 must be used for voter education and poll worker training coordinated through the University of California Institute of Governmental Studies.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/business/national/10442637.htm?1c
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:43 PM
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1. Where does the other 2 MIL go?
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:45 PM
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2. Well...
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 07:46 PM by God_bush_n_cheney
That I beliewve is the Qui Tam lawsuit Bev filed in California. If it is and I am pretty sure it is...Bev will share the proceeds with several other people. Bev has stated publicly that any money she got would go immediately into Black Bax Voting 501(c)(3). So I imagine that is where it is going.

Now all that is predicated on wether or not she settles. If she doesn't then Diebold could go into discovery or the State could force settlement.

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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:54 PM
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3. Thanks. It will be interesting to see if she settles or not.
And it will be interesting to see if she does indeed give the money to BBV.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:55 PM
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4. I don't think this can be the same lawsuit
Because the State of California is clearly the plaintiff here. However, it could be about some of the same issues as Bev's suits.
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:03 PM
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8. In the Qui Tam
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 08:03 PM by God_bush_n_cheney
California and Alameda are the plaintifs...

This is the Qui Tam filed by Bev.

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/dcforum/DCForumID4408/50.html
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:58 PM
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6. Geee....Im gonna start my own blackboxvoting org
and make loads of money going after these companies
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 07:57 PM
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5. Look at how Diebold answered a 12/9 op-ed re their leadership
Edited on Fri Dec-17-04 07:58 PM by sfexpat2000
Regarding Robin Baneth's 12/9 op-ed
http://www.yubanet.com/artman/publish/article_16042.shtml
Diebold sent the
following statement:

For your information, the chief IT programmer at Diebold
Election Systems
does NOT have a criminal record in check fraud using
computers, as Robin
Baneth asserts in yesterday's column. Diebold doesn't
employ any convicted
felons as developers. The person I believe you're referring
to, Jeffrey
Dean, was never officially employed by Diebold Election
Systems. He was VP
of development for Global Election Systems, the company
Diebold acquired in
January 2002. He was relieved of his duties only a few
weeks after the
acquisition. We would appreciate a clarification in your
publication.

Also, FYI, Diebold had systems in only 2 counties in Ohio
on election day
-- Lucas (which went to Sen. Kerry by a wide margin) and
Hardin (a very
small jurisdiction in NW Ohio). Both used paper-based
optical scan systems.
Elsewhere in the country, our touchscreen systems were used
predominantly,
and with positive feedback from both voters and election
officials, in
Georgia, Maryland,California(Alameda County), Texas and
Kansas. None of
which were swing states.

Mike Jacobsen
Diebold, Incorporated
Director, Global Communications
www.diebold.com
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VTGold Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 02:52 PM
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13. Jeffrey Dean was head programmer on GEMS wasn't he? n/t
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Andy_Stephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 03:01 PM
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14. Yes he was N/t
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Kerry fan Donating Member (351 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:02 PM
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7. Has anyone looked into these machines?
I saw them on CNN news one night and they are quite small and portable. I sent Kerry an e-mail about them long time ago but not sure it actually got to him. check it out.

http://www.eci.gov.in/EVM/
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 01:51 PM
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10. Hi Kerry fan!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-17-04 08:11 PM
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9. Was this the settlement in the lawsuit....
That my sucky chicken county, Solano County, opted to not join even after we spent a lot of money on a new Diebold system that we used only once? Do you know how much money Solano lost by not joining the suit?
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 02:03 PM
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11. A lawyer from BBV
spoke at the State Capital rally in Sacramento last Sunday. I do not recall his name. He said that they hoped the case would not be settled. He wanted it to go into "discovery" and indicated that the investigation would uncover quite a bit more evidence on how the machines were used to perpetrate fraud in CA.

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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-18-04 02:44 PM
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12. IF Bev allows Diebold to settle, takes the settlement money
Then she's a loser.

If she stays in there...fights and brings out all the evidence for public viewing...then she's trustworthy.

WE NEED ALL THE EVIDENCE
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