Note from Katrina in Greene County, Ohio - 12PM ET

[dzika]

She sent this in an email a few minutes. She said that she dictated these details over the phone to attorneys.

First email:
I wonder if this person is also knowing Xenia Police Officer Matthew
R. Foubert, who stated to me on Tuesday, December 14th @
approximately 9:45pm that the you "illiterate vigilantes" are "too
stupid" to realize that the "recount was certified earlier today."
Further stating, "Get the f--- over it, Bush won." Then threatening
to arrest myself and two others that had been watching the Greene
County BOE. There were several police, sheriff, and one ranger
present surrounding me after I pulled up to argue for a volunteer
who they had surrounded with their cars and had shaken with fear.
The ranger went on to state, standing to my right and at this time I
do not have his name present, that "you're lucky your volunteer did
not get shot in the head last night for approaching me." The
volunteer saw this ranger come from an area of suspicion and also he
was plain clothed and carrying a large bag. He also would not state
right off that he was a ranger off duty. The ranger continued,"if
that volunteer approaches me again like that I will shoot him in the
head."

Is this true? DEFINITELY! Will they say they didn't say most of it?
I'm guessing that is highly likely. Would I be saying it if it
wasn't true? Absolutely not! Why? Because 1) I risk further
harassment and so do the volunteers that are from Greene County that
have their information in the hands of those officers, as to where
they live, their license plate numbers, etc. Volunteers that since
they live there can not go home to another county. 2) It's my word
against all those officials since they had us separated and I risk
them trying to sue me for any attempt to put bad to their names, and
3) whatever else they determine they can come up. So no I would not
add in ANY words I am not completely sure of and not remembering to
a T! This happened and this is a fact!

Katrina


Second Email
The information that I just forwarded to you was dictated with some
other information over the phone last night to attorneys. I should
be signing an affidavit either today or tomorrow as to that. Once
that is done and vetted it may be able to go to press. However I
think they will try to keep it out of media until the hearings. I'm
not sure if you will be able to get ahold of that video tape. I,
myself have requested it and still unable to get a copy. Possibly
contact Link Tv, Terry Taylor. I heard that all these tapes are
going to her. She's in Columbus. I left a message on her voice mail
yesterday, but haven't got a call back. Generally once they get the
info they don''t want to give it up. Reason being is they are paid
reporters and like to be on top of the news with coming out with
these things. So I don't know how much luck you will have.




You can read some history about this situation in the following thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x172886

[mattclearing]

1. Nothing surprises me anymore.

Any luck getting those recorders yet?

[dzika]

4. A few recorders were sent on Saturday.

She probably will get them Monday or Tuesday. Thanks!

[Vinnie From Indy]

34. DON'T DONATE MONEY TO THESE PEOPLE

There is a very strong possibility that these requests for "Katrina" are a scam.

[senegal1]

2. KICK. Hang in there Katrina.

[McCamy Taylor]

3. please take care of yourself

[Liberty Belle]

5. Have you complained to the Chief of Police?

And whoever handles internal affairs for the cops? Plus the AG?
Isn't there any honest law official in the State of Ohio who would take action over such outrageous conduct?

[dzika]

7. Protect, Serve and Bully

There have just been too many stories of intimidation.

I don't know how they are handling it. I just hope justice will find some of these people.

[The Doctor.]

6. Kick. We should put together a mini-cam system...

for her.

I don't have alot of funds, but it wouldn't be too difficult to put together a little AV rig that could record this stuff into a Pocket PC or something.

It would be barely detectable.

I know it could pose a risk - but one recorded incident is all it would take to get these people off of her and get the media involved.

The media would jump on police intimidation in a second if they had a tape.

[Junkdrawer]

28. I offered this yesterday...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=175430&mesg_id=175972



Target sells them - $130

[regularjoe]

8. They are getting frightened. Hope this blows wide open.

Threatening to shoot someone in the head if they approach you should result in some sort of punishment.

What are they hiding?

regularjoe

[idealista]

9. do i get this right that the police may have been disposing of ballots?

This non-uniformed "ranger" carrying a large bag from a "place of suspicion?"

Sounds like the local officials know who they want to be president.

[dzika]

10. I don't know.

It sounds like they believe this "Ranger" looked and acted suspicious.

[merh]

11. The next time you communicate with her, ask about the

volunteers that she considered "missing". Has she heard from them? Tell her thanks from me and my prayers are with her and the other volunteers.

A little FYI - most law enforcment types have been indoctrinated into believe that the weed is good and the war in Iraq is good. They have been told at all of the Homeland Security conferences, seminars, training sessions that it is "better to fight them over there than here at home" and they have been given "sensitive" information regarding the nasty terrorists trying to destroy our world. To doubt the vote, is to doubt their leaders (national, local & state) and that makes you a traitor. To doubt the vote makes you anti-weed and one of those peace crazies, which we all know the terrorists have infiltrated our ranks.

The kool aid sessions are full of this mentality and programming. Not excusing the behavior, just giving some insight.

[The Doctor.]

13. Yep - when you think you have 'inside information'

You will do very arrogant things.

Those who 'know what's best' are the most dangerous.

[merh]

14. Yes, those are the most dangerous.

It is so sad, those are the ones that have been affected by the weed admin's policies, but they don't see it. Who do you think needed overtime the most?

[Helga Scow Stern]

12. Thanks, dzika. Sounds reminiscent of the old KKK operations. This is how

many people are complicit. It happened before--it's happening again.

Anyone who doubts any widespread involvement in perpetrating and covering up the fraud need only study the history of the KKK as well as its parallels with the RNC.

KKK as a model of vote suppression
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=55162

[femme.democratique]

15. Send them all mini voice recorders

Cheaper and stealthier than video for catching these types of conversations....to be kept in a coat pocket or something - they need to get these threats on audiotape, and anytime they talk with a cop ask them to state their name. Fascist pigs, I bet they're regulars on freerepublic.com, I see the rationale and intelligence level is very similar!

[dzika]

16. Most of Katrina's Team has Audio Recorders...

She said that 32 of here 38 volunteers had recorders. That is why she was wanting 6 more.

They had been using them to record conversation in the BOE. I don't think they were planning to have to record the law enforcement officials too.

But I agree, record everything at this point.

I guess they didn't record the comments of the Ranger or she would have said so.

[femme.democratique]

17. good, lets hope they get some voice evidence- nail these pigs to the wall!

I mean, if the BOE has nothing to hide whats the problem? Are the volunteers even close to breaking the law? I think not. I hate it that the people who are supposed to "protect and serve" the people wind up doing the exact opposite!

[Vidar]

18. Applauding Katrina and the Freedom Riders.

[Vidar]

19. delete duplicate

[zimba]

20. I sure hope all of this ends up in the GAO

investigation. Does anyone have an email addy for the people responsible for the investigation at GAO?

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

22. The GAO can only go so far. They can't prosecute, they need

Bush's Justice Department to do that. Fat chance of that happening...........

[genieroze]

21. Why do these * supporters hate this country? eom

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

23. Katrina, my thoughts and prayers are with you. :)

[Carl Brennan]

24. Anybody videoing any of this?

Get witnesses to come along, preferably a lawyer or two.

[Emit]

25. Kick

Hang in there Katrina and all others who are risking their lives and reputations. We're thinking of you over here on the west coast.

[ohio_liberal]

26. I don't understand

Off-duty plainclothes Ranger? Is she talking about a Park Ranger? I have a family member who is OHP and he would very much like to know.

[Junkdrawer]

27. This officer has a history...

...
In a second similar case, justices ordered a lower court to reconsider whether officers can be sued when they tackle someone and knock the person to the ground during an arrest.

At issue is the claim of an officer in Xenia, Ohio, that he should be shielded from a lawsuit over his handling of the arrest of a woman.

Police went to the home of Cheryl Lyons in 1998 to investigate an allegation that Lyons' teenage daughter had assaulted someone. The woman claimed that she did not invite officers into her house and argued with one of them.

Another officer, summoned to assist, ran into the house and threw Lyons to the ground in a football-like tackle, she claimed in a lawsuit. Justices threw out a decision by the Cincinnati-based 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that a jury should be allowed to consider if Officer Matthew Foubert went too far.

The case is Foubert v. Lyons, 03-1622



http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/203665_policechases14.html

[Vinnie From Indy]

29. Let's tally the Attacks on Katrina

According to dzika, because we NEVER get a post from Katrina herself, Katrina has been run off the road by two dark SUV's with MD plates in rural Ohio, she has had her car broken into and her tires slashed, she has been threatened with being shot in the head by a "ranger" and she has the personal knowledge of the potential kidnapping or killing of two volunteers. Dzika indicates in earlier posts that Katrina only filed a police report in regard to the tire slashing and not the attempted murder or the missing volunteers. Each episode of the Katrina saga grows more fantastic with every installment.

Also, dzika has written that Katrina and her volunteers have been using recorders while witnessing the recounts. There have been several posts by other witnesses to the recounts in Ohio that state that recorders of all types are EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN in the recounting rooms and use of such devices is grounds for immediate removal from the BOE. Is Katrina and her group recording these recounts secretly? Are there any other witnesses that have recorded recounts?

[ohio_liberal]

30. I think some healthy skepticism is in order here.

So much drama, why isn't it all over the net? Why aren't the Greens involved? Seriously, if your volunteers are at risk of serious physical harm why isn't there an army of lawyers there?

[Junkdrawer]

31. She posts under the name of katalyst...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=175430&mesg_id=176019&page=

And, when I offered to buy her a cheap $100 Camcorder/Voice Recorder, she refused help:


I didn't read the rest of your post beyond the url. While that would be extremely useful I couldn't accept anything like that. I'm trying to keep things to an absolute bare minimum. Only enough to keep people going. See, most of the people I'm dealing with that can help me are doing so because they have been laid off. So they have nothing to lose really and have the time while waiting to hear back from interviews and what not, but haven't the funds. I went as far as could. So now it's just trying to keep them going as I said. That's why I said about the gas situation when I spoke to David. I don't know where those posts are here. Somewhere there's a link in my mail, but it must be hidden with the tons of other mails. As to the recording equipment I'm hoping to send all those back to who ever sends them in as good as condition as they are sent as soon as they have completed their jobs. Unless I'm advised by those people who sent them to send them on anywhere else that recounts or efforts are going on. So while I see the rest of your post and that's a quite nice offer. I don't think it would be somehow ok to accept such. I don't know really. I would dislike to be responsible for too much equipment because I would then have the need to pay it back, buy another one, or what not if it was damaged in any way.

As to pm'in you, I can't seem to do that. Thanks so much for the offer.


But I'm sure you'll find something suspicious in that too...

[lip-sink]

32. from Lip-Sink

Dzika can you monitor my pass the hat post so i can put down for the night?

[Niche]

33. CON ARTISTS AND CROOKS...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1304672/posts


Please donate to www.votecobb.org if you really want to support the recount effort.

[Name removed]

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[ohio_liberal]

36. Erm, the Judiciary Forum was on the 13th

n/t

[katalyst]

40. Judiciary forum..

but not the rally on dec 4 nor the symposium later that night (to clarify)

[Name removed]

37. Deleted message

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[katalyst]

42. Are you Bush's monkey? Grow up!

[dzika]

43. Vincent,

Sorry we didn't put together a more grammatically correct scam for you to debunk.

I will personally work harder in the future just so you don't have to be offended by spelling and can concentrate on the heart of our nefarious plans.

Thanks for your comments!

[Dancing_Dave]

38. The violent repression and deception of the Bush Dynastic Regime

Just goes on and on and on.

As one clairvoyant intellectual noted during the reign of Bush I, it's just a globe trotting Empire of Chaos.:nopity:

[Emit]

39. Perhaps calling her cell # might clear things up

Google Katrina Sumner.


Here's one example:
December 10, 2004


Blackwell Locks Out Recount Volunteers

Subject: Blackwell Locks Down Ohio Voting Records

Ohio Election Investigation Thwarted by Surprise Blackwell Order

Dayton, Ohio Friday December 10, 2004

On Friday December 10 two certified volunteers for the Ohio Recount team assigned to Greene County were in process recording voting information from minority precincts in Greene County, and were stopped mid-count by a surprise order from Secretary of State Blackwell’s office. The Director Board of Elections stated that “all voter records for the state of Ohio were “locked-down,” and now they are not considered public records.”

The volunteers were working with voter printouts received directly from Carole Garman, Director, Greene County Board of Elections. Joan Quinn and Eve Roberson, retired attorney and election official respectively, were hand-copying voter discrepancies from precinct voting books on behalf of the presidential candidates Mr. Cobb (Green) and Mr. Badnarik Libertarian) who had requested the recount.

One of the goals of the recount was to determine how many minority voters were unable to vote or denied voting at the polls. Upon requesting copies of precinct records from predominantly minority precincts, Ms. Garman contacted Secretary of State Blackwell’s office and spoke to Pat Wolfe, Election Administrator. Ms. Wolfe told Ms. Garman to assert that all voter records for the State of Ohio were “locked down” and that they are “not considered public records.”

Quinn and Roberson asked specifically for the legal authority authorizing Mr. Blackwell to “lock down” public records. Garman stated that it was the Secretary of State’s decision. Ohio statute requires the Directors of Boards of Election to comply with public requests for inspection and copying of public election records. As the volunteer team continued recording information from the precinct records in question, Garman entered the room and stated she was withdrawing permission to inspect or copy any voting records at the Board of Elections. Garman then physically removed the precinct book from Ms. Roberson’s hands. They later requested the records again from Garman’s office, which was again denied.

Ohio Revised Code Title XXXV Elections, Sec. 3503.26 that requires all election records to be made available for public inspection and copying. ORC Sec. 3599.161 makes it a crime for any employee of the Board of Elections to knowingly prevent or prohibit any person from inspecting the public records filed in the office of the Board of Elections. Finally, ORC Sec. 3599.42 clearly states: “A violation of any provision of Title XXXV (35) of the Revised Code constitutes a prima facie case of election fraud within the purview of such Title.”

Contact Information: Joan Quinn [phone], [phone] – cell Katrina Sumner [phone]


From:
http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/002336.php

[dzika]

41. I know there is contact information on the web...

I just wish we could refrain from posting it. It feels risky to me.

Maybe there is no other choice.

[Moderator]

44. Locking....

Individual fundraising requires Admin approval.


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