Perhaps the tech in OHIO updated the E-PROM?

[Ellipsis]

one of two posts.

I am not an engineer. I am definitely not a DOS guy. I am not a Programmer.

I do understand hardware evolution.

>Lets define more acronyms here first.
>
>ROM read only memory
>PROM Programmable Read only memory
>E-PROM electronic programmable read only memory
>EE-PROM Erasable programmable memory
>
>The order, is also, sort of it's practical historical
>introduction into mainstream computing. the first be the least
>expensive ( though not at the time of its introduction) The
>latest chips would last have the highest cost. The more chips
>produced over time the lower the cost of goods.

The above will also apply to a second post called EE-PROM
as applied to the The technician in OHIO, one of the suspicious examples sited by Cong. Conyers.

In order to Reset the E-PROM in those days one would expose it to ultraviolet light.

Could the the weight of the heavy jacket have been an ultraviolet light box?

When one downloads firmware, to E-PROM don't you have to reboot the machine to invoke it? Didn't MS Eaton say the machine rebooted in her testimony? (I have just spoken to Simone who confirms this.)

I'd guess He updated the firmware. If so then why?

>k

[wtmusic]

1. No light box needed

He could have replaced the operating system on the hard drive with a "democratic" one, using a USB flash drive that would fit in his pocket.

If only people knew how easy it is they would STFU about the recounters being "paranoid".

[chomskysright]

2. can you say some more for the uninitiated?

I'm going to pass it over to the recount site: [e-mail]

[Ellipsis]

4. Touch screens, Drive, Binary.

Touch screens are simply, thermally sensitive grids overlaying a computer screen or monitor.The grid is sensitive to body temperature. When Your finger touches the screen, the grid it senses the temperature change and records in xy coordinates. A touch screen is not a computer . It is an IO device. (a keyboard). no magic here.

On hard drives and this "may be significant"

When he drive is formatted, it is prepared to accept data, and the drive is divided up into sections Each section has a unique address ( think of it as a s a street address) When you copy a file to a hard drive these sections get filled up the directory, like a phone book records the location of all those little ones and zeros (binary data) of the file. Here is the potentially significant part. When you throw the file away. You only throw the directory information about that file away. The one and zeros are still there, and until the drive needs the space, The data or parts of the data, the significant point may still be there.
just because you move they don't tear down your house.

I have to thinkn though this has been anticipated... if not well, you could get lucky and I think you would have seen a lot of reactionary scrambling.

My guess is thats not where the magic is.

on ones and zeros, or "binary" :

Binary is like Morse code. It is the simplest way to uniquely describe something. Morse code, long pules, short pulses, IE. SOS. Binary usage in computers equates more to on or off, Binary,in computers, marries with something called an an-gate of which qualified engineer need describe. But basically it like a turnstile which flips either on or off.

I keep thinking, if they manipulating things, it is at this level. I keep reading about unique anomalies about the vote tabulators. The anomalies,as far as this method of potential fraud, I surmise, is the smoking gun.

[berniew1]

14. Techs visited most counties machines before recount. This is just the onl

only one someone talked about in deposition. There have been vote machine fraud patterns documented in Ohio and other states- such as the touchscreen default set to Bush pattern- noted on other threads, which is likely the most widespread and significant noted so far.
There would be a good chance the tech was changing out the memory setting that set the default to Bush, to cover up the fraud. Why were the machines left unprotected and where manufacturer reps had unsupervised access to change them or cover up at will?

[Ellipsis]

16. Bernie! Hi Bernie.... well then I'd say We are real n/t close!

[GAspnes]

17. slight correction

Touch screens are simply, thermally sensitive grids overlaying a computer screen or monitor.The grid is sensitive to body temperature. When Your finger touches the screen, the grid it senses the temperature change and records in xy coordinates.

Touch screens come in one of three technologies -- resistance wire, infra-red beam or capacitive. See Touch Screens. I've never heard of, nor used, a thermal touch-screen. Environmental conditions would flummox them and gloves, stylii and fingernails wouldn't register.

[Ellipsis]

19. thank you

[GAspnes]

22. can't PM you. Apologies. (n/t)

[GAspnes]

18. EE-PROM

stands for Electronically Erasable Programmable Read-only Memory.

A *long* time ago, UV was used to erase EPROMS (Erasable Programmable Etc.). You can identify them by the small glass window on the top.

EEPROMS may be erased and reprogrammed by applying a write signal. They're the basis for flash card technology.

[Ellipsis]

20. stop dating me. thank you. n/t

[GAspnes]

21. you're welcome

This is a vitally important issue. We need to be as accurate as possible.

[Ellipsis]

3. No USB on a 14 year computer n/t.

[Alizaryn]

5. If thats an accurate guess of the age. Sounded unsure to me.

[Ellipsis]

7. Post #95 from libertypilot "14 year old dell PC"

I agree, still sounds plausable as I know hardware. It does need to be proved. People on the ground in Ohio could confirm that.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x163291#166039


k

[mulethree]

8. . n/t

duplicate - old PC's don't have USB

[Red State Blues]

6. Correct me if I'm wrong.

But isn't the point that he wasn't supposed to do ANYTHING without bi-partisan observers present?!

I don't care if he updated the e-prom or pissed on the spark plugs! (and I know just enough about e-proms to be dangerous)

I just don't understand all this conjecture about WHAT the guy did. We won't figure it out from here and if he knew what he was doing we won't even figure it out from impounding the machine EITHER!

Counting the votes by hand will be the ONLY way to put this matter to rest!

(Unless the guy was a bumbling incompetent and we can see what he did by impounding the machine.)

But count them by hand ANYWAY!

[Ellipsis]

10. love your attitude. Really! and Good question

It could well of needed maintenance, lots a environmental things can make a computer not work. simple things, Humidity, power-surge, hell even a vacuum cleaner if it was on the floor could contribute...I don't wantto give anymore ammo to the dark side.

The fact that it may be in only occasional use would up that quotient.

I don't know why he was there. Why was he there? Why was he there? Why was he there?

I am trying establish method!

k

[mdb]

12. Bingo! I believe this is what it will come down to. (no observers).

We can talk all we want about CMOS batteries keeping the time when the computer is down or that it is procedure to set-up the machines for the selected race(s) and eleiminating undervotes or overvotes all we want but it all boils down to the fact that this technician should never of been with NO observers present while he worked on this machine.

[Alizaryn]

13. I think the 2 election officials from the precinct were

there. The one on the affidavit was the Democratic one?

[Ellipsis]

15. Could be. My original read was a while back, but I concur until otherwise

But what caused him to show up? Was he scheduled? Was a call placed?

...and this may sound silly? Did he ask for a blade screwdriver? or a Phillips?

Did anyone see him with a tool too in his hand, a chip puller ?

It looks like a 50'version of an old Gillette razor.

k

[mulethree]

9. light box just erases

You would need a programming box to re-program the EPROM.

Easier to just bring a new EPROM and swap them.

[Ellipsis]

11. exactly!

what was in his jacket?

Do you have a 14 year old E-Prom laying around in your junk drawer?

Doesn't matter.

k

[skids]

23. Whether it's a PROM, EPROM, whatever -- is inconsequential.

The technician could have removed or inserted code that runs during the boot-up sequence, and thus could alter the behavior of the machine from beneath the operating system, simply by plugging in, removing, or replacing an expansion card. For example, most video cards contain a BIOS routine that is executed before the OS starts.

There are lots of firmware chips even in older computers. The critical thing here is that noone who knew anything about computers watched him. So anything could have happened.

Personally I think too much speculation as to the hardware behind this is occluding the most questionable of all the goings on -- the suggestion that a "cheat sheet" be posted.

[Ellipsis]

24. Excellent Point!

Lends itself to doubt. though doesn't it? ....another possibility. ...More fuel to the fire.

So from what I've read

The ONLY logical conclusion legally, is to do a physical count of all votes, and that the ballots be subjected to close scrutiny, including random forensics.

k