Gore Vidal on Fraud and the Enemy Within.

[Dancing_Dave]

America's deepest progressive writer Gore Vidal foresaw in advance how Dubya would steal the 2004 elections:
http://olm.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/nytr/Week-of-Mon-20041018/007938.html

http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/04/11/int04057.html

Maybe Gore's demonstrated ability as a Prophet will increase the audience for his great book "Dreaming War: Blood for Oil and the Bush Cheney Junta". http://www.mediagab.com/product.asp?asin=1560255021

It's all there folks. And Vidal is always a step or two ahead of Mike Moore.

[Dancing_Dave]

1. How would Vidal enlighten the slower prog Moore?

How would the lightening-fast and indeed prophetic progressive mind of Vidal enlighten the much slower wanna-be progressive mind of Moore? Could anyone here with some psychological insight and literary talent for details come up with a conversational scenario where Vidal, who foresaw the theft of the 2004 election ahead of time, enlightens Moore, who still doesn't get it though he probably will within a few years?

[Laughing Mirror]

2. "This is Gore Vidal speaking from the Hollywood Hills

recovering from our latest experiment in democracy... I think the first question that goes through the minds of us who are not faith based is: Did they steal it this time too?"

A one-hour direct streaming broadcast of Gore Vidal speaking on Pacifica Radio post-election. Indispensable.

http://http.dvlabs.com/radio4all/ug/ug228-hour1mix.mp3

[mattclearing]

3. Funny, I thought Vidal was an expat.

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[Laughing Mirror]

4. Had a house in Italy with his partner who died last year

They had the house for more than 40 years, but he has also lived half the year in Hollywood Hills all the years. People have tried to paint him as an ex-pat, as if that's a bad thing.

[mattclearing]

9. No, I read it in his 9/11 book.

I forget the name of it, but it was basically his quick one-off on the whole thing shortly after it happened, and he referred to this as his former home or something.

[Laughing Mirror]

20. I have to go find my copy of Palimpsest , where he explains where he lives

In the meantime, a quick Google search brought up this article from last year, apparently before Howard died:

Vidal and his companion, Howard Austen, spend part of the year in the Hollywood Hills and also own a sprawling villa at Ravello, Italy. The Hollywood house faces busy Outpost Drive, but entering the driveway you seem transported into a rain forest. Towering pines, verdant ferns, ivy everywhere. The foliage partially hides a traditional California white stucco and red tile-roof house that Vidal has owned for 30 years.

Why live in Hollywood when he has scant regard for the place?

"Cedars-Sinai," he replies succinctly, referring to the hospital of choice for many Hollywood celebrities. He has been plagued with an arthritic knee that for a time prevented him from walking. A knee operation, daily swims and muscle massage has allowed him to hobble, but more surgery may be needed. "I don't want a plastic knee," he insists.

His face is lined, but he has all his hair, which he says has become fine and unmanageable with age. His mind remains agile, and he tosses epigrams like confetti.

http://www.thehollandsentinel.net/stories/072803/ent_072803081.shtml

A few years ago, that trick knee put him in a wheelchair, making it hard for him to get around the world to attend his various engagements. In the post-911 airport security environment, it was becoming extremely taxing for him to travel via airports--he hates the eroding of civil liberties in all it's forms, particularly through invasive identity hoops and phony terrorist homeland security hoops that airport security were constantly making him hop, in his decrepit arthritic state, through. They would take his wheelchair apart, piece by piece, for example, looking for the terrorist hijacking bombs he no doubt had stuffed there. I guess he couldn't take it anymore--he is not a young man--and he just decided to stay home, mostly in Hollywood Hills, and do as much work as he could from there. This is why, over the past year and a half or so, you see him speaking at anti-war demonstrations in LA and you hear him from time to time on Pacifica radio, giving these personal, Gore Vidal fireside intimate chats from high in his perch in the unfashionable Hollywood Hills.

He used to go to the house in Italy mostly in the summer to write books, but from what I can gather, since Howard Austen died, he doesn't seem to have been back there much. He always seems to be stateside. He has the plastic knee now, and so he can get around with a cane, I think, but without wheelchair.

Somebody said he was guest on Tonight Show last Friday night, with Susan Sarandon guest hosting. There might have been I thread here on DU. I don't know.

[Dancing_Dave]

5. Not now!

Like Hemingway, Faulkner, Ginsberg, etc. he has spent quite a bit of time in Europe over the years. But now he's definately a full time U.S. citizen. He does still seem to make some quick trips abroad in connection with his world famous literary and intellectual work.

[Dancing_Dave]

6. Thanks a million for that link!!! Clairvoyence strikes again!

I hadn't happened to have heard that one!

No doubt, Vidal is the deepest and most CLAIRVOYENT critic of the self-destructing American Empire.:yourock:

[Dancing_Dave]

7. Read Gore's clairvoyent essay exposing the Enemy Within!

In the single most important essay written about the USA in the last few years, Vidal clairvoyently saw the truth about 9/11 and the bogus "War Against Terrorism" (i.e.War for Oil) being concocted for us by the Enemy Within, aka the Bush Cheney Junta.
http://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/EnemyWithin.html
:headbang: :grouphug: :yourock:

[Dancing_Dave]

11. Vidal sees thru election stealing AND bogus 911 propaganda!

Right in this forum someone asked:

"I have come across a great many posts on this site that question the official story concerning 9/11. I was curious to know the number of people in this forum who feel that the official story of the events of 9/11 differs from the actual events the led up to and transpired on that day. Please site reasons and links if available.

I do realize that this does not have relevance to the vote fraud issue and if it is necessary to relocate or remove this post, I understand.

Sincerely,
Michael Lewis"

Well,now you don't need to be a deep clairvoyant intellectual like Vidal to see that the official story of 9/11 doesn't add up any better than the official story of the 2000 and 2004 elections:
http://www.physics911.org/

But actually, Vidal did see right through all of the Bush-Cheney Junta's spectacular media-dominating scams faster than any physicist I know of!
:yourock:

[Dancing_Dave]

8. Vidal vs. more shallow faith based "clairvoyants".

Compare Vidal, who actually foresaw how the election was going to be stolen, to some more shallow faith based clairvoyants who made a splash on DU by foreseeing election trouble after there was plenty of it to see right under your nose!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=176785&mesg_id=176785

I now realize that I've been spelling the word "clairvoyent" in FRENCH. Well, France has lots of the world's most clairvoyant intellectuals, and they don't mix it up with some of the bogus stuff you often hear from wanna-be American clairvoyants on talk radio!

[passy]

10. He just sees things more clearly than you and me.

"Who you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?" Groucho Marx

[Dancing_Dave]

13. Anyone's eyes can lie when they watch TV!

[Carolab]

12. Vidal sees things because

he is a lifelong student of our history and an extremely insightful man. He has said that he "shouldn't be the one to teach us our history" and he is right. Where have we all been, while the lies have been taught us in schools and in the media? We have been asleep, lulled by delusion, and now we are waking up. I just hope it's not too late.

[Joe Chi Minh]

14. Also, he seems

to have something of an inside track, being from a American brahmin dynasty... er... predating WWII, I think. I think he might be Gore's uncle.

[Dancing_Dave]

17. Isn't Gore Vidal a WWII Vet?

[Joe Chi Minh]

18. Yes, he is.

Also, I think, a member of John Kennedy's circle.

[Dancing_Dave]

16. Well, you can't see the future right if you don't understand the past!

Didn't a famous American philosopher say "Those who don't learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them."?

No wonder so many people in Germany distrust, fear and hate Bush and Cheney! They learned their lessons from the Nazi days and don't want to see us repeating them!

[myschkin]

15. Here we are

He should send an email to his cousin Al Gore... ;-)

[mbee]

19. In my view it is highly important that Michael Moore stay out of the

election fraud investigations. The media would just have a field day with him should he start something up. If the Green Party is the one that breaks this thing wide open the pugs won't be able to bluff their way out of it like they usually do.