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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 06:46 PM
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Freeper wants end to Democrat election whining
Subject:
Please Investigate the MASSIVE WHINING About the Election

To:
Rep. John Conyers

December 19, 2004

What is "MASSIVE", is the audacity of these whinyass democrats who refuse to accept the FACT that they LOST ANOTHER election.

We already know that they're not going to believe any investigation or recount anyway.

I think that all future elections should be put on hold until all of the investigations are over and EVERY SINGLE DEMOCRAT is satisfied with the results of the 2000 & 2004 elections.

It is absolutely pointless to continue holding elections when Democrats insist on investigating the results every time they lose.

Lake Dufus , MI

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/userletter/?letter_id=150618111

Apparently, there is no such place as Lake Dufus, MI (duh!)

But this person has one other messages on congress.org:

Subject:
.....make that a WORTHLESS piece of crap.

To:
Rep. John Conyers
November 14, 2004
Thanks.
Lake Dufus , MI
https://ssl.capwiz.com/usatoday/bio/userletter/?id=327&letter_id=114773926&content_dir=congressorg


That message makes no sense, either.
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candy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 06:48 PM
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1. I've seen posts from DU'ers who feel the same way. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 06:55 PM
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 06:56 PM
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4. ?
you have? where?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 07:45 PM
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6. The right regained control by whining, and by broadcasting their
Edited on Sun Dec-19-04 08:29 PM by The Backlash Cometh
whining on radio, television and billboards. Rush Limbaugh, is a whiner. FoxNews whines about the liberal media ALL the time. And billboards are used to whine the loudest.

So, if you don't have anything else to offer, just let us whiners stamp, kick and let the world know that we're outraged and won't accept the fraud in office.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 07:55 PM
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7. Then they apparently weren't real DUers.
NGU.


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super simian Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 06:49 PM
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2. My letter to Barbara Boxer
Dear Senator Boxer:

I am a member of the Democratic Party, and have voted for you in every election. I have volunteered for the Democratic Party over many years, and worked hard to elect John Kerry.

Like all sensible people, I am distressed that John Kerry did not win. I think George Bush Jr. is a dangerous and an irresponsible man. I think he has damaged our country and he has damaged our world, perhaps irrevocably. It’s hard to contemplate four more years of this narrow-minded, dishonest, manipulative, hypocritical, selfish, and uniformed person leading our country. What’s going to happen to our environment? What’s going to happen to our economy? What’s going to happen to Social Security and Medicare? What’s going to happen to our soldiers in Iraq? What’s going to happen to the Iraqi people? What’s going to happen to America's reputation as a world leader? What kind of a future are we passing off to our children? It’s impossible to contemplate how much more damage George Bush Jr. can do with a second term in office!

In the meantime, there are many of us who seriously question whether George Bush Jr. was ever elected in the first place. It appears that – by the time all the votes were finally counted in Florida – Al Gore actually won. But by then there had been a vicious attack upon our nation that – coincidentally – did George Bush Jr. a very great service. While so many lives were lost, so much property was destroyed, so many hearts were broken, George Bush Jr. was the sole beneficiary of this horrendous tragedy, and he has never let us forget it. After declaring his catastrophic War on Terror, a “war” on an emotion that does nothing quite so well as stir up that emotion in American hearts, he used this event to push his right wing extremist agenda of depriving Americans of their Constitutional rights to privacy, and depriving prisoners-of-war of their right to be treated like human beings. Then he ran for re-election as (to quote CNN) "the embattled war president,” exploiting the horrific events of 9/11 to the bitter end.

But, if none of this had ever happened, we might be in a very different situation. Maybe, when all the votes in Florida were finally counted, Americans would have awakened to the irony that our president was not elected, but APPOINTED by the Supreme Court. George Bush Jr. is in office today because the Supreme Court wouldn’t let us count the votes in Florida. Up until then, it appeared to be a matter of honor for politicians to step back when there was any doubt about who won an election and say, “Go ahead and count the votes. Count them once, count them twice, count them a thousand times because I want everyone to know that I was elected fair and square.” But George Bush Jr. did not want the votes to be counted in Florida. He did not care if he was elected fair and square. He just wanted to be president, and his right wing extremist friends wanted him to be president, and they didn’t care what the people of Florida wanted any more than they care what anyone wants except them.

He didn’t win, but he didn’t care. All is fair in love and war and – to George Bush Jr. and the right wing extremists – a U.S. presidential election is war. And George Bush Jr. and the right wing extremists have a great big army on their side. This army is called the mainstream media, or the corporate media, or the so-called liberal media, and – thanks to media consolidation – the great American disinformation machine is owned by just a handful of people, most of them right wing extremists who are proud to fight in Bush’s dirty war against the will of the American people.

Yes, as Gary Trudeau so aptly pointed out in one of his comic strips at the time, the attack against the U.S. on 9/11/01 coincidently advanced every single item on George Bush Jr’s right wing extremist agenda. And coincidently it distracted the American people from the fact that – when all the votes in Florida were finally counted – we had actually elected President Al Gore.

You know I think it’s funny that they used to call Ronald Reagan the Teflon President. We have never seen Teflon until we have seen a president who a) was never elected in the first place, b) has spearheaded an impressive collection of the most cynical legislation that was ever foisted off on an asleep-at-the-wheel American public, c) has elevated the executive branch of this government to the status of God’s anointed, d) has told bald-faced lies to the American people that have cost thousands (upon thousands) of lives, e) has happily declared his “Mission Accomplished” in Iraq a “catastrophic success,” f) has presided over and endorsed abuses to the Geneva Conventions that make us nothing more than a rogue nation, g) has presided over the biggest job loss since the Great Depression, h) has engineered a multi-trillion dollar loss to our economy with his tax breaks to his base: “the haves and the have mores,” i) has helped award no-bid war contracts to his VP’s cohorts at Halliburton (which they have since gleefully abused), and j) (not surprisingly given all this) had to campaign for re-election at members-only events. I used to think that bad news for George Bush Jr. was good news for me, but now it’s beginning to dawn on me that there’s no such thing as bad news for George Bush Jr.

And that why I’m writing to you today. I have no doubt that you are a very wise and politically savvy woman. And I’m aware that you are much closer to all of these events than I am, so you must know all the facts and all the truth so much better than I do. So that’s why I’m asking you today, please be bad news for George. Do it for me. Do it for yourself. Do it for everyone in this country, and everyone on this planet. Do it for John Kerry.

It’s a different world now than it was in 2000, and in part we have Michael Moore to thank for that. In the face of the great American disinformation machine, a HUGE majority of Americans have now seen his film “Fahrenheit 911.” And they have seen that pathetic, heart-breaking scene where Al Gore presided over the certification of the electoral votes. I doubt very many people knew how things worked in those days, so there weren’t very many people who knew that NOT ONE SINGLE SENATOR had the guts to stand up beside our brave congressmen and women to object to the inauguration of the first American president who was elected by NOT counting the votes. But we know it now. And we’re watching. Even though the corporate right wing extremist media isn’t covering it, we have our internet forums now, and we share information, and we’re watching what’s going on in Ohio, and we’re watching to see which senator is going to stand up beside John Conyers et al to protest yet another stolen election.

Because I have always liked and admired you, Senator Boxer, because I have been a steadfast supporter, I am hoping and praying that this brave senator will be you.

My letter is already too long, so I won’t go into the details of the lawsuit that Cliff Arnebeck filed in Ohio last week. I’m sure you already know them. There is so much evidence that yet another election was tampered with, if not rigged, that it’s not even funny. And I’m not going to apologize and talk about tinfoil hats just because I think so. The discrepancy between the exit polls and the election results would be enough to alert the Ukrainian people that something was amiss, so why not us?

And – lest we forget – one of those cynical pieces of legislation foisted off on the asleep-at-the-wheel American public was the Help America Vote Act, which allocated billions of our hard-earned tax dollars to the purchase of unverifiable voting technology that was manufactured, installed and “serviced” by George Bush Jr.’s right wing extremist friends (including a number of felons, as it turns out).

Please help us, Senator Boxer. We need you. We will never know whether George Bush Jr. was actually re-elected until all of the legitimate questions about election tampering in 2004 have been answered. So please help us make sure that we get the answers we need. Without them, what would be the point of ever voting in an American election again?

Sincerely yours





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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 08:30 PM
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9. 
Well done.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 09:12 PM
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11. Hi super simian!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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super simian Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:13 AM
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12. Hi back to you!
:hi: :hi: :hi: newyawker99
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 07:15 PM
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5. It's all they can do...
They can't do anything but lash out at this point.

Soon Rove's power over "employment status" will fade and everyone with a grudge will just pummel * Co., it will be a fun show.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 08:31 PM
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10. Malaise is best served with good whine, I always say.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-19-04 08:23 PM
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8. Squeaky wheel gets the grease
I ain't whining, I'm squeaking :)

Or as Arnebeck says, "We're not crying, we're litigating." (In response to a belligerent caller who accused Dems of being crybabies.)
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 12:28 AM
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13. Let them call it whinning... not discussing and planning...
fact checking and analysis.. these are foriegn concepts to them.. they have a distorted view of history of fraud and the role of america.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 05:57 AM
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14. Kick
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