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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 01:56 AM
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Kerry knows this was his 1 shot.... so maybe he is holding the money..
for something we dont know about. I mean.. if you cant admit there are things going on you dont know.... so, imagine he is not saving the money for some other run (its $15mil or so i think). MAYBE.. AFTER xmas he will use it to buy ADS to get the word out..WITH the evidence that wasnt there last month. Or wishful thinking... but time will tell, either way I find it hard to believe Kerry is seriously thinking of keeping the money to run again.... he knows bush up close...so I'll follow this through and fight to the 6th. If he says or does nothing, he will lose me as a supporter.. along with millions more.. and he KNOWS that!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 02:00 AM
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1. i think and hope you are right
he's gotta know by now that he's already lost support for not speaking out LITERALLY against the fraud. he loses more and more everyday. he's got to know that if he doesn't do something about this NOW, IN 2004, that he has no chance for 2008. Some people might say Kerry is a lot of things, but one thing he IS NOT is stupid. He knows it's now or never, and if he doesn't, he better wake up.

(don't worry, i still love him)
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 02:07 AM
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2. Lose you and others as supporters... ??
Of What ?? Do you and these others you speak of live in Mass. ?
cause that's the place he represents.
John Kerry is now just another failed presidential candidate. Think Ross Perot, Michael Dukakus, Bob Dole ......
John Kerry is now back at happy hour with his Senate chums.

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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 02:08 AM
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3. please
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 02:16 AM
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4. He has already stated that the money will go into a PAC
to fund local Democratic races.

PLEASE not start another Kerry flame war.

Now is the time for unity. The war is real, and it is us against them. We need to stick together. We know the enemy. The enemy is strong, but together we are stronger. The enemy is rich, but together we are richer. The enemy is drunk with power and that power will be its ultimate downfall.

There will be plenty of time after Jan 20th to critique John Kerry.

For Now,

No Retreat No Surrender
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 02:25 AM
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6. definatly.. I will not judge before its over..
no flames from me.. I try to be positive and realistic... I will be in DC on the 6th.. and i will continue this fight till sanity returns to the government.
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 03:24 AM
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11. I know there are no flames from you my friend
You are fighting the good fight and admire what you are doing. If it is at all possible, I will join you on Jan 6th. I am in CA now, and finances are tight, but I am going to see what I can do.

No Retreat No Surrender
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 02:44 AM
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9. Technically speaking, it's going to Dem candidates
the PAC money has to be fresh.

And I dispute that he's losing MILLIONS of supporters. There aren't millions paying attention to the fraud. Oh, some I've spoken to feel it was stolen, but they don't seem to think there is much they can do about it except be upset, and for the most part I don't find them overly angry with Kerry. They're more angry with the Republicans.

Several more aren't even agreeing there was fraud. I couldn't even talk suppression to one of them without getting a "get over it" several times over.

I do hate it when people try to make their words more powerful by saying they are not alone, that there are thousands or millions who feel the same.

It's like O'Neill claiming he represented a majority of veterans in 1972. He had no proof of that. Kerry called him on it then, and I call people on that logic now.

Meanwhile, I don't know what's going on either, and I don't understand campaign finance well enough to say what Kerry can and can't do with certain money. I will be patient after Jan 6th.

I expect action, but I'm not going to say what that action has to be. I'll know it when I see it, I guess. I may not see it for a while -- a long while.

No demands. No surrender. Just faith. Funny, I have a sticker I got from Sunday School where I teach. I put it on my sweater to be funny one day, and when I got out to my car, I put it on the visor. Now, when I flip the visor I see it.

Appropriately enough, it says "Patience." That's my watch word for the days ahead.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 03:06 AM
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10. PLEASE not start another flame war ... Amen, amen and another amen
One more thing: amen.

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 02:17 AM
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5.  I hope, I hope, I hope!
I wish he would say something. I don't like that now Arnebeck says he wishes Kerry would contribute money! He said he could release some Gealac funds. I understand his not contributing to another Party , like the Greens, But the Arneback effort is non partisan. I just don't know anymore. I wrote and asked him to please say something, even if it is to let us know he isn't doing anything! If he doesn't come forward before Jan.6th, I don't think he has a prayer in 2008. This isn't politics as usual and people won't forget. A lot of leadership Dems think voters will forget. I don't think so.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 02:39 AM
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7. I don't think voters will forget either, and I for one will work hard
to make sure that we start having some accountable representation around here! And I will do everything in my power to let everyone know what has gone on, and I am sure many of us feel the same way.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:


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mazzarro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-20-04 02:42 AM
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8. John Kerry has conceded and thus closed the books on this
election.
That is the way I read it and I am not going to waste my time in hoping that he has some surprise to spring at a later time. Since he chose not to speak out forcefully when the whole matter was "hot and steamy", then I do not expect him to do much later. I am more interested in what we - the ordinary progressive/liberal people left to dangle - will be doing to counteract the reThugs/neo-cons during the next four years and beyond.
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