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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:11 PM
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Cries for Electoral Standards Mount
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/122204A.shtml

Cries for Electoral Standards Mount
By Steven Hill and Rob Richie
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

Wednesday 22 December 2004

The day following Election 2004, retiring NBC News anchor Tom Brokaw indicated the need for strong national standards in how we count the votes. In an unusually serious interview with David Letterman, Brokaw said point blank, "We've gotta fix the election system in this country."

In a message to supporters, former presidential candidate John Kerry echoed this sentiment, calling for new "national standards" for elections and saying "It's unacceptable that people still don't have full confidence in the integrity of the voting process." In Ohio, Reverend Jesse Jackson also called for reform, emphasizing the need for a Constitutional amendment guaranteeing the right to vote, a right guaranteed by most established democracies. Every returning member of the Congressional Black Caucus has signed onto Congressman Jesse Jackson Jr's HJR 28 to provide a constitutional right to vote.

The 2004 elections underscore the urgent demand to modernize our elections and bring them in line with international norms. Without such modernization, we will fail to establish a vital democracy and remain vulnerable to electoral breakdowns.

Consider these reforms:

1. Non-partisan election officials. At the top of the list must be nonpartisan election officials. It hardly matters whether the method of voting is with paper and pen or open-source computerized equipment if election administrators are not trustworthy. The secretaries of state overseeing elections in three battleground states - Ohio, Missouri, and Michigan - were co-chairs of their state's George Bush reelection campaigns. In Missouri, that Secretary of State was running for governor - he oversaw elections for his own race! A highly partisan Republican Secretary of State ran elections in Florida, as did a partisan Democrat in New Mexico. A Mexican observer of the 2004 election commented, "That looks an awful lot like the old Mexican PRI to me." Election administrators should be civil servants who have a demonstrated proficiency with technology, running elections, and making the electoral process transparent and secure.

2. National elections commission. The U.S. leaves election administration to administrators in over 3000 counties scattered across the nation with too few standards or uniformity. This is a formula for unfair elections. Most established democracies use national elections commissions to establish minimum national standards and uniformity, and to partner with state and local election officials to ensure pre-election and post-election accountability for their election plans. The Elections Assistance Commission established recently by the Help America Vote Act is a pale version of this and should be strengthened greatly.

3. Universal voter registration. We lack a system of universal voter registration in which citizens who turn 18 years of age automatically are registered to vote by election authorities. This is the practice used by most established democracies, giving them voter rolls far more complete and clean than ours - in fact, a higher percentage of Iraqi adults are registered to vote than American adults. Universal voter registration in the U.S. is now possible as result of the Help America Vote Act which mandated that all states must establish statewide voter databases by 2006. It would add 50 million voters to the rolls, a disproportionate share being young people and people of color.

4. "Public Interest" voting equipment. Currently voting equipment is suspect, undermining confidence in our elections. The proprietary software and hardware are created by shadowy companies with partisan ties who sell equipment by wining and dining election administrators with little knowledge of voting technology. The government should oversee the development of publicly-owned software and hardware, contracting with the sharpest minds in the private sector. And then that open-source voting equipment should be deployed throughout the nation to ensure that every county - and every voter - is using the best equipment. Other nations already do this with positive results.

5. Holiday/weekend elections. We vote on a busy workday instead of on a national holiday or weekend (like most other nations do), creating a barrier for 9 to 5 workers and also leading to a shortage of poll workers and polling places. Puerto Rico typically has the highest voter turnout in the United States, and makes Election Day a holiday.

...more, including more reform suggestions...
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:14 PM
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1. thanks for posting this
I was going to if it wasn't here already.

Very good and clear list of requirements for elections.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:18 PM
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3. Thank you for the post, hopefully it will be about a Democracy

and not about parties and stealing elections, I am getting pretty tired of the * family and their stolen elections, Jeb better not even try to get back into our system, dirty dogs all of them.
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read the law first Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 04:09 PM
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31. There's no such thing as a nonpartisan election official.
Anybody who says that they are nonpartisan about a presidential election is either lying or an ignorant fool.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:16 PM
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2. Will, in regards to #4:
I can say with a reasonable amount of certainty that were the call to go out, from leading figures in government, for a "Geek Mobilization" to develop the bulletproof voting equipment, the rush to get on board would lokk like millions of Three Stooges trying to get through the door. Them geeks would get on it like ugly on an ape, and I guarentee that it would cost less, work better and be incredibly hard to hack.

I know me quite a few of them geeks, and the mere possibility makes them salivate.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:19 PM
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4. THAT IS AMERICAN JOB CREATION AND REPULSIVES ARE INTO
SLAVE LABOR AND OUTSOURCING. Fight is going to be on for Constitutional amendment as it should be!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 02:29 PM
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27. What! Another Constitutional amendment proposal!!!
Don't we need to take care of these important ones first?:
Flag burning
Marriage
Abortion

Before we move on to something as frivolous as "fair elections?"

Oh, and don't forget the amendment to make Ahhhnold POTUS!

(/sarcasm)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:23 PM
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5. It took two stolen elections for peopel to realize
that this was bad...

Oh and by the way, shennanigans have occured on both sides, but the scale of the latest set makes any others look like ahem, child's play... and I include the dead voting in chicago and the 1960s shenannigans (on both sides)
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Truman01 Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:28 PM
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6. I'll kick this one
:kick:
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Klimmer Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 08:46 PM
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7. I agree, and I would make these changes to the actual way we vote . . .
A snip from a letter I wrote to the Congressman Conyers/House Judiciary on just this issue:

Our country is in dire need of immediate help and saving if democracy is to last. I fear this could be the end of our once great nation which now seems hell bent in turning to fascism.

The right to vote as a citizen must be free from irregularities, intimidation, suppression, spoilage, fraud, along with our right for a complete paper trail ballot to validate our vote.

Using a pen marked fill in the bubble ballot system that leaves a complete paper ballot, the voter should be made to keep a carbon copy of their ballot with a serial number that matches the same serial number of the actual ballot, prior to casting their vote.

Elections must be completely transparent with the same laws governing nationally, not with fifty different systems of voting.

If electronic machines and computers are to count our votes, then they must be standardized and use open source code that is none proprietary.

Election law must make available the opportunity for complete statewide hand recounts, not machine recounts, and spell out exactly how recounts are to be done.

The power of Secretary of States must be limited and must be truly none partisan, with protecting voter rights the highest priority.

Perhaps ballots can be scanned as they are counted by machine and then the complete ballot image posted by serial number to a state or national website where the voter can go to verify that their vote actually did count. Ballots can be posted by serial number without any personal identification to maintain our privacy. Not only could we then all witness the true vote and election, but then the world would have an opportunity to be a witness as well. This could be a valuable tool not just to verify that your vote counted, but then recounts could be conducted easily by many overseeing agencies and citizen groups in complete sunshine and transparency.

Pushing for lawfully requested state recounts now in this election, holding hearings, investigating irregularities and fraud, and changing election law to protect the constitutional right of every citizen to vote must be the highest priority of our government and congress.
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 01:08 PM
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17. In Oregon.......we vote by mail. We can drop them off in OFFICIAL
boxes the day of the election. We don't have to wait in line for 8 hours or get shuffled around being told we are in the wrong place and can't vote.

ELECTION REFORM MUST BEGIN NOW === and start with OHIO, FLORIDA and any other state where irregularities took place in the 2004 election.
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kk897 Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 01:34 PM
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21. How would you say this system has worked out, over the long term? n/t
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:24 PM
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8. well sheesh
we've only been screaming at the wind about these conditions for well over 3 and 1/2 years. Still, it's good to see it getting out there again however possible. But boy has it ever been an exercise in frustration and futility. Yikes
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:39 PM
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9. Great suggestions
there's absolutely NO reason not to immediately implement them all. Totally doable, and totally necessary.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:50 PM
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10. I got another one, let ex felons vote. Look if you did your time you
should be able to vote.
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 09:54 PM
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11. Thx for the update Will!
Somehow I knew that Tom Brokaw was not about to slip out of sight! Good for him!
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:01 PM
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12. Great article and ideas except
It would add a lot more Dems to the rolls and repubs will fight that tooth and nail. Look at Texas re re districting. Texas is becoming a minority majority state this year. Will we see our appropriate representation?...not after Delay's nasty interventions.
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Blue Christmas Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 10:17 PM
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13. Looking Out For Number One (i.e. the Voters!)
I echo the thanks for posting these, Will. I'm a semi-longtime reader of DU - first time typer - and I greatly appreciate the work you've been doing on the election reform front.

I also agree that these measures should be implemented ASAP.

What cracks me up about Reform #1, though, is that these days it seems that the truth is largely becoming a partisan ideal. So, it follows, that anyone who favors transparency in the election process might these days just be looked at as "anti-Republican."

It reminds me of a quote from Ron Suskind when he appeared on "Real Time With Bill Maher" awhile ago:

"You know, if there is one thing you can say about this White House, they seem to be uncomfortable with facts being disclosed...I'm not pro-Bush or anti-Bush. I mean, I am pro-fact. That's what I'm about. Facts. Let the facts out. Lay them on the table. We can have better discussions about what's real instead of arguments about what we're not permitted to know."

I suppose I'm being semi-facetious here, but on a more serious note, while I agree that it might be difficult to completely eradicate and/or regulate the partisan leanings of elections officials, surely we should start by eliminating the obvious (to everyone but the MSM) conflicts of interest inherent in the dual roles of people like Blackwell and Harris. Otherwise, the odds of enforcing other the reforms are greatly reduced.

Keep fightin' the good fight!
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:00 PM
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14. How do you get new laws...
.... if the Congress is Republican and will remain Republican until the 22nd Century?

How do we neutralize elections if we cannot pass any laws doing that?

How do we.....

Oh, never mind.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-04 11:06 PM
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15. Move Election Day from November to the Spring or Summer...where
it is now...it makes it too hard to check out fraud because we are into the holidays where voters minds drift.

Weather can be "iffy" into Winter in many parts of the US...besides it's the holiday thing that causes us to lose control of the aftermath.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 01:02 PM
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16. .
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 01:16 PM
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18. Am I the only person that thinks a national standard might be a bad idea?
Hear me out here. I know the system that we have now is obviously corrupt.

However, if we allow the federal government to centralize voting with a national standard and counting method, effectively allowing the feds to handle the vote counting, what is to prevent the government from turning out any result it wants?

Any thoughts on this?
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KingoftheJungle Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 01:28 PM
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19. What about IRV or other methods that amplify votes?
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 01:40 PM by KingoftheJungle
By amplifying votes, I mean amplifying each individual's power with each vote. Here is an outstanding website that compares these different methods of voting:

http://www.electionmethods.org/evaluation.htm

EDIT: I screwed up and posted this as a reply to another person's reply. Can any mods fix this and make it reply to the original thread or am I stuck in here?
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KingoftheJungle Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 01:29 PM
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20. Mr. Pitt, please email me
ja_investigate@earthlink.net
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 01:38 PM
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22. One major addition: We need to push for a constitutional amendment!
Many lawsuits pertaining to election problems have failed because we don't have a provision in the constitution that protects an individuals right to vote. Just as one example, this really handcuffed us in Florida in 2000. If there was a constitutional amendment that explicitly granted all adult citizens the right to vote, it would have immediate and widespread all across the county. This would force virtually all local election officials to examine what they do and clean up their act immediately, so as to protect themselves from litigation. There is no one single thing that would have more of an impact, in my opinion.

Now of course there would be some opposition to a constitutional amendment like this. But that's ok, too. I like Perlstein's arguments on this point:

"Representative Jesse Jackson Jr. has pointed out that Congress doesn't even have the power to establish a nationally uniform system of voting--everything in the Constitution concerning presidential elections is mediated through the states, which is why every state (and within every state, every county) runs elections its own way. He's proposed a constitutional amendment to right the wrong. Passing it is a daunting prospect, no doubt. But as strategy, it also has the makings of brilliance. Let the Republicans try to fight it. Put them on record as against the right to vote. Let them defend the process as it exists--where a figure like Blackwell can simultaneously be the captain of one of the teams and the game's chief referee."

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0451/perlstein.php

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KingoftheJungle Donating Member (355 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 01:41 PM
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23. Here is a website comparing election methods (IRV, Condorcet, etc)
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bj2110 Donating Member (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 01:58 PM
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24. kick!
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 02:12 PM
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25. Danny Marino is a repuke
Marino was my all time favorite player so it was hard for me to take when I found out before this past election that he's listed as a repuke or so the list posted here at DU indicated.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 02:58 PM
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29. I lost a bet
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:26 PM
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32. If you mean you thought he was Dem...
then join the club. I was kinda crushed. Heck of a good guy. I'd be curious to know what his reasons are.
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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 02:21 PM
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26. The points you listed are all neccessities as far as I'm
concerned. Well said.
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OKthatsIT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 02:47 PM
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28. INDIANA..READ THIS!
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1857668

Everyone else...This is a very republican state. But even there, election standards are being discussed. The republicans must realize that, should this criminal invasion of our liberty continue, the likelihood of Dems stealing the elections back could very well be the only alternative available.

I am a Progressive Liberal BUT...LISTEN TO ME....I will stand behind ANY legitimate vote. I will respect that outcome. I only want others to do the same towards me.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 03:40 PM
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30. Thanks for posting this Will.
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