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Tue Dec-21-04 08:47 PM
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Karl Rove -- Tabulates Own Results Election Night .... |
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Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 08:47 PM by EMunster
via BBC via bellaciao.... Karl Rove tabulates own results election night- has network of contacts down to precinct levelfrom the BBC story "Drawing up blueprints for Bush victory" http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3987237.stmBy the time election night came around, Mr Rove was in the White House, where, unusually for a political adviser, he has an office.
He set up computers in the Old Family Dining Room and started tabulating results. He had set up a massive network of contacts, not just in state capitals, but individual districts and precincts to monitor turnout and support.
Reporters surround Karl Rove Mr Rove may spin the news, but the media still wants to hear him Early exit polls quoted by media seemed to give Mr Kerry the edge, but colleagues said Mr Rove indicated right away that they did not tally with his information....http://bellaciao.org/en/article.php3?id_article=4847
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Tue Dec-21-04 08:48 PM
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1. Man would i love to give that guy a kick in the ass |
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Tue Dec-21-04 08:50 PM
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3. not good enough, you'd have to at least beat him with |
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a rubber hose with a lot of knots tied in it.
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Wed Dec-22-04 04:13 AM
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Tue Dec-21-04 08:51 PM
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4. I'de love to string him up by his nuts! |
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Tue Dec-21-04 08:53 PM
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6. mmmm we can only wish lol |
secedeeconomically
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Tue Dec-21-04 08:53 PM
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7. But then again, i'm sure he has no balls |
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Tue Dec-21-04 10:19 PM
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hang Karen Hughes by her breasts and slice her nipples off.
I just thought I'd add that since I guess tonight is the night to discuss ways to torture people by abusing their sexual organs.
Pretty weird if you ask me, but I guess I can play too.
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Tue Dec-21-04 08:52 PM
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5. Could I kick him next, cheater, stolen election Master Mind Weirdo |
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Tue Dec-21-04 08:49 PM
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2. I wrote to this reporter |
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Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 08:52 PM by Patsy Stone
I never received a response. I posted a whole thread about this article -- it's called "Come Away With Me," but now it's in the archives -- since I've hated the implications since I first read it. I asked her to clarify what numbers he was using, asked here why she was there, and let her know that if she saw anything she might want to tell someone.
Still waiting...
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Eric J in MN
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Tue Dec-21-04 08:58 PM
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9. Washington Post? What reporter? (nt) |
rockedthevoteinMA
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Tue Dec-21-04 09:01 PM
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10. the woman from the bbc who wrote the original article |
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Tue Dec-21-04 10:44 PM
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25. You probably will never her from her, she was either warned |
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Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 10:44 PM by merh
to keep her yap shut, charged with a bogus crime and is having her life ruined or had some horrible accident. They don't like people talking. :scared:
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Tue Dec-21-04 10:52 PM
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27. Hopefully she's just busy shopping for holidays? Seems odd for her |
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to write such a story and leave it out there. But, I was on your original thread. Glad you decided to write her...but if she was invited into the "private WH quarters" then we gotta know she's "in" with Rove...even though the article sure raises questions.....
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Tue Dec-21-04 08:57 PM
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8. Is it legal for voting companies to give out results before |
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the end of voting on Election Day?
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Tue Dec-21-04 09:06 PM
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First, how is Rove getting this info?
Second, if he's getting this info then how come the news organizations who contracted exit polling won't give election-day truth-seekers the info on the polling?
One word: FRAUD
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Tue Dec-21-04 09:29 PM
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Tue Dec-21-04 10:38 PM
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I read about your mini-vaco on the Olbermann thread. :)
Glad you're back. I just IMed you.
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Tue Dec-21-04 10:49 PM
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26. This is what the exit polls reflected before the media |
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Tue Dec-21-04 09:26 PM
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Are a very fundamental piece in the whole puzzle.
He claimed to have direct links to every precinct in the USA, and "his numbers were more accurate than the exit polls results and the TV networks information..."
Is it possible?
NO!
The only explanation is that he was cooking the results as needed.
I just can't believe the American MSM!
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Tue Dec-21-04 09:27 PM
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13. America is a big fat joke! |
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Tue Dec-21-04 09:29 PM
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15. Can a political party not do their own rough Exit poll survey? |
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Tue Dec-21-04 09:33 PM
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16. Rumpel, I know each party has their own people on the ground |
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but nobody should be getting exact results down to the precinct level.
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Tue Dec-21-04 09:43 PM
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18. The best we were doing was calling our supporters |
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and bugging the stuffings out of them. If we found a precinct was lacking, we'd rapid response that area, make sure people didn't need a ride to the polls and the like.
All the calling we'd done lead up to those last five days. They wanted us to call these poor people 3 times in those last five days. I was so worried that we were driving people away, we were bugging them so much.
I felt like a telemarketer for Kerry.
But hey, we went blue here in WI.
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Tue Dec-21-04 09:43 PM
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19. What does this really meann? |
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"He set up computers in the Old Family Dining Room and started tabulating results. He had set up a massive network of contacts, not just in state capitals, but individual districts and precincts to monitor turnout and support."
what sort of tabulation?
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Tue Dec-21-04 09:46 PM
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20. Throughout his career... |
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Edited on Tue Dec-21-04 09:54 PM by RaulVB
Rove has claimed to HAVE DIRECT LINKS TO EVERY PRECINCT WHERE HIS CANDIDATE MIGHT BE RECEIVING VOTES.
EVERY SINGLE VOTE COUNTED IS REPORTED TO HIM BY "SOMEONE."
His reports are "always the most accurate..."
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Tue Dec-21-04 09:58 PM
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22. I wish there comes day, when I get to see him raise his right hand |
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and testifies infront of the wholecountry and the world!:mad:
be back later...
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Wed Dec-22-04 04:05 AM
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36. If "he claimed this throughout his career"... |
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then someone with 'foresight' (say a prior Prosecutor) would've been smart to plan ahead and have someone attempt to intercept the transmissions from Rove's WH phone lines/computers, etc.?
Since clearly Shrub has a lot of enemies in the Intelligence community, tracking those transmissions might be entirely possible.
I certainly could picture in my mind what Rove looked like working over his computers that night...deciding the Election. And the networks made no secret about him doing so.
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Wed Dec-22-04 03:58 PM
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39. Lots of enemies but also some powerful friends... |
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This power game is huge and some people might not be willing to risk everything they have in order to defeat "*"
Is a hard decision to make.
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Tue Dec-21-04 09:51 PM
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21. The key word appears to be "information". Some days ago |
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I remeber a thread talking about one of the machine companies also having the results and posted on their web site, was it Triad?
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Tue Dec-21-04 11:48 PM
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and even more suspicious, they left the results up on their website during the "blackout period" of 11:01 p.m. to 1:33 a.m.
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Tue Dec-21-04 09:36 PM
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17. I wish we could impound his computer and get phone records |
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Tue Dec-21-04 11:32 PM
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28. Maybe his "massive network of contacts" were through Diebold and ES&S? |
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Imagine if all those tabulators we reporting to a central location, with Rove lookking at the exit polls and diresting like a maestro, "up the count here, we need more in this county... leave that one alone or it will look suspicious, ok, skim a few more from NY and CA, we're gonna lose anyway in those states but we need our mandate, make sure they're blue areas so no one will notice..."
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Tue Dec-21-04 11:38 PM
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29. Why would Rove need to contact... |
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...districts and precincts on election day?
I smell a big, fat rat.
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Wed Dec-22-04 12:35 AM
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31. CLUE: So it's Rovie in the Dining Room with the laptop eh |
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I read this before and every time I do, I think of him hacking into the central tabulator like that monkey that was able to change the votes. I am not saying it was him, just that I have that thought.
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Wed Dec-22-04 01:44 AM
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Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 01:45 AM by RevCheesehead
If this stuff could be done by one person, why not KKKarl?
Karen Hughes: "Mr. President, you have lost the election."
Shrub: (smirky chuckle) "April Fool's?"
KH: "No, sir, the numbers are really bad. I'm sorry for having to tell you this. I really hoped we could pull it out."
Shrub: "huh? Be a good dear, and get me a beer."
(Karl enters room)
Shrub: "Karl? Karen says we lost!"
Karl: (patronizing smile) "Now George, why would you believe that?"
Shrub: "Well, can ya look into it?"
Karl: "Let me fire up the laptop, and let me (wink) CHECK the numbers."
**BREAK FOR UNPRECIDENTED VIDEO OF * FAMILY ON ELECTION NIGHT**
meanwhile: Karl: (muttering to himself) "well, that ought to do it. Oh yeah, shit, almost forgot to call Mitofsky! Hey, Warren? Yeah - here are the numbers. See what you can do. Yeah, I'll go tell him now."
Karl returns to Shrub family gathering.
Karl: "Mr. President, I believe that Karen's numbers were wrong. I have reviewed my own numbers, and I can confidently say that you have won the election."
Karen Hughes: "I'm outta here."
Shrub and the shrubettes: "YEE-HAW!"
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Wed Dec-22-04 01:47 AM
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Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 01:47 AM by Faye
one thing though - i'm confused, i heard some kind of talk of this - but did Karen Hughes really leave or resign?
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Wed Dec-22-04 01:49 AM
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34. I believe someone said she left, right after telling him he lost. |
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Something about having to return to Texas. Many thought it odd that she would work so hard on the election, and abandon * right after she told him he lost.
Then there's that "plausible deniability" thing again.
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Wed Dec-22-04 01:52 AM
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35. Uh Yeah, there is that. Perhaps it was a CYA sorta thing eh? |
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