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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:41 PM
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psssst...Kerry is getting into the game tomorrow...
...stay tuned...

...also, something fun on the Triad front will hopefully be ready by morning.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:42 PM
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1. Best Christmas present ever!
Glee! :D
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:52 PM
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200. Funny you should say that....
Ok, you are not the only person I have heard this from. There is a little rumbling undercurrent that I am hearing from various places now about Kerry stepping up to the plate.

If so, I will kiss him all over.
Meeeeow.:9
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:21 PM
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225. Does Teresa read the forum
Watch it, dear. I suspect it's not wise to mess with Mama Teresa.

Besides, you'll have to stand in line. Mwahahaha.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:30 PM
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236. Tee-hee
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 11:31 PM by Vektor
...that's one line I wouldn't mind standing in.
As for Teresa, NOOOOOOOO, I would NOT want to mess with her.
But.
Mrow. :loveya:

A little something for you while you wait in line:
http://www.time.com/time/personoftheyear/2004/people/3.html

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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:36 AM
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350. I'd rather have a "People Who Mattered," than a "Mandate" any ol' day!
What a great pic! Thanks!

I do miss him so much! Teresa'll make an awesome First Lady.

Oh please, Santa...PLEEEESE!
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:24 AM
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373. And he does matter....
Maybe we can overturn the "Person of The Year" vote too? :-)
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:39 AM
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459. I thought the person of the year
does not neccessarily have to be a good person, just a person who has had a lot of influence on events around the world. I thought in 2000 they were thinking of making Osama Bin Laden Person of the year?

Don't quote me though.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:54 PM
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503. You're right...
The person of the year CAN be a total jack-ass.
And this year, HE IS!
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Klimmer Donating Member (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:36 AM
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376. I'm dreaming of a Kerry Christmas . . . just like the ones I used to know
I think I want to cry---this is such great news. It is going to be one hell of a war with Shrub and the Repugs, but John is absolutely ready. I can't help but think he has something absolute. He fights to win.

He has been fighting this war ever since Vietnam. It truly has been like "Going Up River." It really is ". . . The Long War of John Kerry." First Vietnam, then his activism in the anti-Vietnam war movement and battling Nixon and his henchmen, then working as a successful prosecuting attorney, then as a freshman Senator and his investigation into the CIA-Contra-Cocaine connection battling the Reagan/Bush administration and suffering being called a conspiracy theorist (read Robert Parry's article "Kerry's Contra-Cocaine Chapter" http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/102904.html ) even though all of it has been proven true since and admitted to by the CIA. Kerry went on to investigate and bring down BCCI, the Terrorists Bank, to the dismay of many in congress, a bank which also has a link to the Bush crime family. Now he faces off with the Bush crime family once again. This time over an election that was stolen from Kerry using all possible immoral manners and computer fraud. I never have doubted he was hard at work behind the scenes. He told us in his video on his website. Good things come to those who wait.

Today, it's going to be a sunny day in San Diego for me no matter what the weather is doing . This roller coaster ride has been taxing, but I'm feeling elevated again. Thanks William for posting this tease, it helps.

By the way, I really enjoyed reading "Tour of Duty," especially the chapter on John Kerry's time here in San Diego training at Coronado Island, and living off base and surfing in Mission Beach. It's a great read if you haven't read it; you'll come to understand his honest character and perseverance. John Kerry is inspiring.

So John, I would like to say in my most authentic San Diego speak, "Yoooo . . . aaaawwesome . . . Dude-man. Surfs-up! I've got your back . . . Killer-Duuuude!"
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:00 PM
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504. Tour of Duty was a great book...
...and right before the DNC last summer, I visited San Diego for two weeks, and had a brilliant time. I took the ferry out to Coronado and rode my bike all over the island, and to the Hotel Del Coronado, which is beautiful. There was a HUGE battleship docked on the San Diego side. Actually, it was an aircraft carrier, I had never seen anything so massive. I was in awe. A few months ago I bought and read Tour of Duty, and yes, could totally envision Kerry on Coronado, since I had just been there...San Diego seems like a great place to live.

I spent a little too much money at those huge malls, though. :-)
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:29 AM
Response to Reply #236
425. Sigh
That's a damn good picture of Kerry. :cry:
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:01 PM
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505. Too good...
It weakens the knees, does it not?
:loveya:
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:46 AM
Response to Reply #236
448. Oh my! I love that picture!
I may have to swoon. :loveya:
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:02 PM
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506. That's ok!
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 02:03 PM by Vektor
You and me both...
:loveya:
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pbartch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:30 AM
Response to Reply #225
346. Yeah.....you will have to stand in line.....starting with me.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 04:42 AM
Response to Reply #225
381. Well, then feed her 20 kinds of vitamins--
--and give her full massage treatment so she's in proper shape to kiss him all over for all of us.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #381
507. I may implode at the thought!
And...I'm reporting for duty.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:29 PM
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234. 'Twas the night before Will Tells...
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 11:44 PM by catnhatnh
...and all through the thread,
Neither librul nor freeper had headed for bed,
For with promises shining of new news the next dawn,
the posters had lost it,composure was gone...

My brother and I, by the "puter we sat,
Saying "NO" I know William don't talk out his hat.",
Conspiracy theories we throw left and right,
There may be SOME respite but not on this night,

When out through my fogged brain there came quite a thought,
though my brother deduced I'd become overwrought,
And then when he asked me,I said "Hey,guess what?"
And he said "Don't pull answers fresh formed from your butt!"

But I told him I thought long and that I thought deep,
and he told me to give him a hope he could keep.
And my thought grew larger the harder I thought,
I said, "Pal it is over,the Bastard been caught."

Then I heard my Bro say as I sat and I fiddled,
This fraud is ALL over,the Chimp he is Diddled....
Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas to All...

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bluedonkey Donating Member (644 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:07 AM
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278. That was
quite poetic.Thank you.HEhe
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:08 AM
Response to Reply #234
326. Really good


Let's pray that tomorrow will bring us great news
For we have been living in a funky kind of mood









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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:49 AM
Response to Reply #234
359. Brilliant! You clearly have a way with words and...

too much time on your hands! (hee hee)
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:17 AM
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456. your prose speaks for me. hee hee :-)
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electropop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:30 AM
Response to Reply #234
481. The Grinch is getting his due.
I hope this is something more exciting than Kerry silently allowing a hopeless lawsuit to go ahead.
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GreyRaven Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:16 AM
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433. Joining DU for Christmas...
Hi. I’m a newbie here and after following the threads for the last several months, it’s a real pleasure to open the door and come in. Look forward to meeting many of you.

It’s been a long night here too and just past 2 p.m. already. I hope Kerry comes roaring back and scatters them like leaves in a tempest.

Merry Christmas from Austria!

GreyRaven
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:29 AM
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442. Welcome GreyRaven!
Merry Christmas back at ya from Delaware, USA! :hi:



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hoosierblue Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:46 AM
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447. Hey hey hey
What is this? Liberals using the MC phrase? I thought that was outlawed--as the right would have us believe.

Merry Christmas. Happy Holidays. And I wish especially-long vacations for everybody.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 11:58 AM
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496. Fröhliche Weihnachten!
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:43 PM
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2. Don't tease us like that
:loveya:
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princehal Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:43 PM
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3. !
More More!

















.................... please?
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pleiku52cab Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:58 PM
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Don't say a damn thing WP
don't give any lurking freepers any hints and no advance time to prepare their spin. SAY NO MORE
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dalloway Donating Member (744 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:45 PM
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145. DITTO DITTO DITTO n/t
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NY Bri Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:28 PM
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Okay. Be that way.
We don't care about that anyway. Come on, everybody. Let's go over to kos and play.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:59 AM
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322. Hello there, newbie!
In your profile, vote is spelled with a v. Friendly correction and welcome to DU!:hi:
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:54 PM
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202. You're right...
Good point. Can't wait. SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:10 AM
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416. honey, you-ou-ou thrill me, yes you-ou-ou thrill me, honest you do
honest you do honest you do.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:43 PM
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4. William please tell us more, make our day easier to take
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 08:55 PM by GetTheRightVote
:bounce:

you are our man, Will.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:40 AM
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352. Not gonna be able to sleep! Oh, my....
n/t:eyes:
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ohioliberal Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:43 PM
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5. Can you give us a little hint?
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:46 PM
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I can't
The sun will rise.
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:51 PM
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33. I will be waiting for the sun to rise! Thanks for the crumb...Every tidbit
helps.:bounce:
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:08 PM
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215. Me too!!
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:43 AM
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353. If something big 'breaks'...maybe Keith O will rush back from vacation?
That's what he gets for takin' time off!
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:06 PM
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69. What if we croak in our sleep tonight?
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 09:44 PM by Cobalt Violet
We'll never know.


Edited to turn crock into croak. :D
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:31 PM
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121. Please say you meant croak
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:35 PM
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126. LOL
I love it!
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:42 PM
Response to Reply #121
139. Oops!
I'll fix it. Thanks.:kick:
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:12 AM
Response to Reply #69
418. LOL, that's too funny
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:29 PM
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Now you've done it! Just can't resist!
(In my best off-key voice)

The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
Bet your bottom dollar
That tomorrow
There'll be sun!

Just thinkin' about
Tomorrow
Clears away the cobwebs,
And the sorrow
'Til there's none!

When I'm stuck a day
That's gray,
And lonely,
I just stick out my chin
And Grin,
And Say,
Oh!

The sun'll come out
Tomorrow
So ya gotta hang on
'Til tomorrow
Come what may
Tomorrow! Tomorrow!
I love ya Tomorrow!
You're always
A day
A way!

(oh darn, just scared my cat away!)

YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:13 AM
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419. how appropriate! kerry coming back & a sun song, just at winter solstice
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:54 AM
Response to Reply #419
430. And there was a beautiful almost full moon last night! An omen??? ;)
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MissBrooks Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:43 PM
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194. I'll believe it when I see it...
Stop giving us false hope - I'm sick of these fits and starts.

If this is going to happen - tell us more about it.
No more criptique guessing games for me.

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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:57 PM
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206. A promising-sounding metaphor
Looking forward to whatever tomorrow brings.

Thanks for the hint - fun for us and it must be driving the freeper lurkers even more nuts!
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:43 PM
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6. You cant do this to us Will
please tell more ...we are begging you!!!;)
How can we sleep tonight?
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:43 PM
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7. snowbound in ohio says
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 08:44 PM by KaliTracy
thanks for the warm news! B-)
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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:16 PM
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176. in columbus? I just scraped about 1/4 inch of ice off my jeep
I've got about 10 inches so far...how about you?
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:23 AM
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302. we're up Cincinnati way... (West Chester)
at least 6-8 inches for the day, and slated to get 8-12 more tonight -- though I've heard sleet for the last hour....

methinks the winter solistice has begun
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:44 PM
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8. Will, Can I Kiss You?
:loveya:
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:45 PM
Original message
I join in on the kissing too, thank you so very much.
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 08:55 PM by GetTheRightVote
:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:45 PM
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11. I join in on the kissing too, thank you so very much.
:loveya:
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liam97 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:47 PM
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23. lets wait
...
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HEAVYHEART Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:32 AM
Response to Reply #8
426. Get in line sister!
hehe.. Will, for you my dear -> :* :* :* :hug:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:44 PM
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9. yayy
thanks, although now i feel like i've been teased!!! :D :D :D
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:45 PM
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14. you have been
this man is a teaser.......LOL
its just not enough
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:41 AM
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338.  Fingers crossed, Faye!
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aztc Donating Member (377 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:10 AM
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455. PEACE TRAIN? Drive 55? Use LESS oil?
What if Kerry just sticks with his corporate friends and continues to play along? THEN would you help urge people to USE LESS OIL?

HINTS:

WWW.DRIVE55.ORG (The Drive 55 Conservation Project, use 20%-50% less oil, every day)

WWW.TANTRICTRAVEL.COM (The PEACE TRAIN to DC, use 50% less oil to get there)

Just these two simple actions everyone can take would cripple the petroleum warlords by ELIMINATING THE NEED TO IMPORT OIL.

Or would slowing down be just too much to ask?

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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:45 AM
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462. I drive the speed limits and own a Prius -
Driving the speed limits allows me to watch idiots speeding by me, racing, racing, racing to wherever they're going next... racing, racing, racing to the grave.

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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:44 PM
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10. Like whoa...
What do you mean? What do you mean???

:bounce:
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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:45 PM
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12. now i'm holding my breath....(n/t)
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:46 PM
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252. yeah, so am I -- and I was blue already
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:45 PM
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13. Pitt darling, are you married?
:loveya:

Dang, I'm going to be in transit tomorrow. I hope I don't miss anything.

On my way to Ohio for Xmas, coincidentally.

Alittle worried, actually, as there's a blizzard there at the moment. I hope I don't get stranded.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:46 PM
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19. I hope you have a safe trip LittleClarkie, we share a name
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 08:56 PM by GetTheRightVote
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:57 PM
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49. what part of Ohio?
We're pretty much snowed in....
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:04 PM
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67. Wilmington, couple hours outside Cincinatti
The plane doesn't leave until 4 my time, and gets in 6 or so your time. I'm hopeful things will have cleared up somewhat by then.
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:25 PM
Response to Reply #67
103. um....I hope so too
we are on a weather alert until 6:00 pm tomorrow.... (we've had 4-8 inches (I'm in West Chester, 30 minutes N of Cincinnati, 30 minutes S of dayton) -- and we're supposed to get 8-12 inches more tonight....

but they could be wrong... *knocking on wood*
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:45 PM
Response to Reply #67
249. Hey, I was BORN there (Wilmington). :-)
Say hi to my old home town.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #13
54. I'm on the road too..
Thank gawd for Sirius Satellite.. Otherwise it's 500 miles of farm reports and country music.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:15 PM
Response to Reply #13
175. Have ya seen Pitt's picture? He's a hottie! (nt)
I saw Pitt's pic on a Web site, when I was looking for info on the Dec 6 protests in DC.

He's verrrry cute.

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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:46 PM
Response to Original message
15. If Kerry fights back,
win or lose... I'll take back everything I said about him.
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burn the bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:23 AM
Response to Reply #15
303. ditto
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:15 AM
Response to Reply #15
420. tritto...me three!
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Branjor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:31 AM
Response to Reply #420
483. Quadritto!
Sorry, sometimes I perseverate.

:bounce:
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #15
464. Me too
Although for the longest time I hung in there, thinking he was letting the public and Conyers find out the details - so he wouldn't look like a sore loser and be immediately written off by the repugs and the news media. It just went on so long without his help I started to doubt him and that was mucho disappointing after the way I pushed him and read about him and gave him my support, hopes and dreams.

Here's hoping John Kerry turns out to be the man we all thought he was!

I need a hero!

PJ

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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:46 PM
Response to Original message
16. ummm, well I can only hope I have to take back all the
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 08:48 PM by msongs
"kind' things I have said about Kerry and bailing out too soon after the election. I will gladly do so when it becomes appropriate :-)

Msongs
riverside ca
edited to get the darn url right....I am learning hehe

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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:47 PM
Response to Reply #16
22. You mean unkind things, me too, I will join you on that
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 08:57 PM by GetTheRightVote
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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maryallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #22
141. I, too, can be magnanimous and ...
I will take back every nasty thought I've had about John Kerry IF he will get off his ass and FIGHT!
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:46 PM
Response to Original message
17. Please, William, be right. n/t
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #17
39. Can you guess what I'm about to say?
I believe tomorrow will be a fine day! Okay, it'll be freezing in Texas with possible ice and flurries and it was in the 70s two days ago and my allergies/sinuses are aggravating the heck out of me, BUT...

I believe President-Elect Kerry is about to help make this a fine Christmas!

:toast:

Whaddaya mean ya already knew I'd say that?! How'd ya figure it out? I'm not getting predictable, am I?

;)
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #39
65. LOL! Did you guys get any snow flurries today? McKinney started
out with thick sleet this morning and then later today, turning into snow.


Did you get my reply to one of your post in another thread, can't remember the thread off the top of my head. But, I said to you something like this: "I don't have the faith you have, txindy, but I will live vicariously through you with your good thoughts and positive attitude." Or, something like that.

:toast:

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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #65
90. Got about three inches in Merkel and the weatherman says
it'll be at least Saturday before the temps get above freezing again.
I'll spend the first part of Christmas plumbing, I have a feeling.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #90
109. Wow! Where's Merkel? I'm native Texan and I've never heard of it.
This is pretty close to a White Christmas for me. It has always lightly snowed a couple of days before Christmas and then melts. So, hopefully, here in McKinney, we'll get to keep that snow on Christmas, or at least some of it.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #109
124. Ten miles or so west of Abilene on the I-20...can't miss it...
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 09:34 PM by Career Prole
...it's right between Tye and Trent! ;)

Edited to add "187 miles west of Dallas on the I-20" because you may not know where Tye and Trent are. :D
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:38 PM
Response to Reply #124
132. LOL! I have heard of Trent, but didn't know its location. When you said
187 miles west of Dallas on I-20, I totally got the picture! :D
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #124
218. I'm a native Texan too...
...and I've never heard of Merkle, Tye or Trent either! But then, you've probably never heard of Wink, which is just down the hwy from Odessa. A long time ago, I went to Permian High School there, the setting of the movie "Friday Night Lights."

Watching for Kerry to make his move at last is a helluva lot more exciting!
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:45 PM
Response to Reply #65
143. I saw a flicker of belief in your post
So I thought I'd fan it a bit. I'll bet before the year is done your belief will be roaring, once again. ;)

No snow, yet, but a few flurries predicted. Over a quarter-inch of rain, though. Temps in the teens tonight. Geeeeee, I wonder what'll become of all that water overnight? Hmmm.

Now. Ready?

I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe!!
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #143
153. LOL! I know what's happening to the sleet here on our patio. One of my
dogs just tried to come back in after taking one of her lady room breaks and she skid all the way back in the house, eyes bugging like *OMG* WTF!! ROFL!!!

I don't think I'm still ready to say that I believe myself, so how 'bout if I retype what you said? Good 'nuff?

I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe!!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:20 AM
Response to Reply #65
296. amarillo we woke up to snow on the gorund
oh yea,............fun it was doing our christmas shopping. so wanted some this year for christmas for all the little ones. not enough. hoping for more tomorrow.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #39
213. A Kerry Kerry Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:22 AM
Response to Reply #213
300. ROFLMAO! Perfectly put! n/t
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:04 AM
Response to Reply #213
389. Excuse my ignorance
what does "n/t" mean?
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:15 AM
Response to Reply #389
391. It means........
No thread, or alternatively, no text. In other words, the entire message is contained in the post "subject line" there is nothing further to read.
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:17 AM
Response to Reply #391
422. oh! thanks! n/t
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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:55 AM
Response to Reply #391
485. i like the "eom" for that n/t
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:16 AM
Response to Reply #389
421. I have been wondering that too, and i have been here rather a long while
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:10 AM
Response to Reply #421
454. Love your handle! Welcome! n/t
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 04:27 AM
Response to Reply #454
509. Thanks Patsy!
Nice to meetcha!
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:59 AM
Response to Reply #389
450. no text
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 04:28 AM
Response to Reply #450
510. Thanks Bunny! n/t
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:46 PM
Response to Original message
18. Thanks! Fingers Crossed.
Is it really beginning to look a lot like Christmas?

Will, I enjoy your posts and your writing immensely. Thanks for all of your hard work ("It's hard work!"). Please know that at least one DUer (but probably so many others as well) appreciates your efforts.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:47 PM
Response to Original message
20. At least give us a time table...
I'm on the leftcoast and will sit up all night if news breaks early.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:47 PM
Response to Original message
21. YES!!!
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 08:55 PM by Tandalayo_Scheisskop
Muuuuuuuuutherfucker!!!(Pumps fist in air)

Goddamn, I do love a good fight. They make me grin.

On edit:

Note to people who make graphics of Kerry and clowns and post them on DU:

FUUUUUUUUUUCK YOU and the horse you rode in on! :evilgrin:

On edit one more time:

Never doubt that boat will be turned around. Not when there is a proven captain at the wheel. One with real character.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #21
26. I could not have said it better, H U R R A Y !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 08:58 PM by GetTheRightVote

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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momzno1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #21
81. OMG, I LOVE your ENERGY!!!!!
It makes me feel like getting up and dancing on the kitchen counters!!!
YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #81
105. I already did that n/t
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Niche Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #21
86. Tandalayo - Right the fuck on! Why are they HERE???!!
I say when the sun comes up the freeps go back to their caves!


P.S. I DO BELIEVE!!! YEAH BABIES!
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:47 PM
Response to Original message
24. Egads! Thank you soooo much, Will, for the heads up!
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #24
31. I would guess it's something solid
because the media will go into instant circus mode. If it's solid shit, they will be smacked down quickly.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:48 PM
Response to Original message
25. PLEASE READ THIS POST
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 08:53 PM by WilliamPitt
I'm not being a teasing jerk. I am not able to say more than what I have, and I hope you can respect that as a journalist, sometimes I have to keep things quiet. I was given the OK to whisper about this, but no more.

On the Triad front, I won't say anything yet because there are technological issues in play, and until they get squared away, well, you know.

I'm sure about #1, mostly sure about #2.

Have a drink, go to bed, be awake tomorrow.

On edit: I have to go out for a while and won't be able to reply here. Chin up, folks.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. I for one am to excited to go to sleep now, will stay up all night to hear
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 08:57 PM by GetTheRightVote
the good news tomorrow, God bless you Will.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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Is It Fascism Yet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:20 AM
Response to Reply #27
423. i will stay up with you! n/t
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Zeke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #25
28. ????????????????
"What you talking about, Willis?" --- Gary Coleman
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:51 PM
Response to Reply #28
32. lol
cept it's more like, wut you talkin bout william?
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #28
68. It was really more like "Wat chou talkin' about, Willis?"
I had a major crush on Willis...

:loveya:

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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #25
29. Thank you!
But...you've got to be kidding. Have a drink and go to bed??? Who can sleep now?
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ohioliberal Donating Member (458 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #25
30. Thanks William I'll sleep better!
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #30
35. YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 08:54 PM by GetTheRightVote
FAITH IS RENEWED , HISTORY IS IN THE PAST, NEW TOMORROW, BRIGHTER FUTURE, MY HEART BEATS AGAIN, HAPPILY ALONG ITS WAY, LIFE SPRINGS ETERNAL, DID I GET THEM ALL, SO VERY, VERY, HAPPY, HURRAY !!!!!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:57 AM
Response to Reply #30
362. Only way I'm gonna sleep is if count "President Kerry's"...'stead of sheep
n/t
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:59 AM
Response to Reply #362
363. since when did you lose optimism?
:shrug:
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:14 PM
Response to Reply #363
500. Never...though I might think of it time-to-time.
Then I visit here, and...
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #25
34. I trust you
and I have journalism training, so I know where you're coming from.

Mum's the word (wink)

But thanks for the heads up.

You've always been straight, especially where Kerry's concerned, giving him a fair shake and all.

So... can I have your babies?
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #34
75. LittleClarke -- You seem to be fond of the man...
So, have you considered a WRP avatar?




:bounce:

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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #75
85. Ahhhhhh...
I liked him better with the ponytail. Real Eurotrash look. ;-)
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #85
91. Back off skag! He's MINE!
CATFIGHT!!!!
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #91
94. LOL!
Pssst. Hey lady. C'mere. Hot Tip: I am a guy and a flaming heterosexual.

He's all yours. ;-)
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #85
123. Ponytail? What ponytail?
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 09:36 PM by IndyOp
Got a picture? I love Eurotrash!

:bounce:
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Left Brain Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:47 AM
Response to Reply #75
355. Okay, is it just me
or does that pic of WRP resemble Olbermann???
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:24 AM
Response to Reply #355
479. I agree -- just a tad n/t
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 11:10 AM
Response to Reply #355
488. even hotter than KO...WOW
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:59 PM
Response to Reply #34
268. Oh, Little Clarkie, you've got sooooo much love
Sung to the tune of Elton John's "Little Jeannie"

"AND I WANT YOU TO BE MY ACROBAT!
Do doo be doo doo...."

You crack my shit right up.
:yourock:
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Zeke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #25
38. Okay Then...
One if by land?

Two if by sea?
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #25
40. Your no jerk ...we love you!!!!
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 08:56 PM by SueZhope
and all you have been doing.
we will last through the night.....
a drink...or perhaps a case of
something

:beer:
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #25
47. Just remember..If Kerry fights back and wins..The Champaigne is
on you!
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #47
64. I want to come
to that party. I love those bubbles!
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:06 PM
Response to Reply #47
162. Hey yeah...you DID say that!
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 10:08 PM by bleever
Maybe we'll have to schedule a DUnion!

:toast:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #47
167. oh yeah! i remember that post
i had to put it on ignore so i didn't get pissy with Pitt. (teehee)

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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #47
203. Ooo, I'd forgotten that!
Thanks for the reminder, mom cat! :toast: Or rather...

Oh, and Will? I'd like a little orange juice in mine. Just sayin'. You know, before all the drink orders pour in. ;)
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dooner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #25
51. Maybe there really *IS* a Santa... !! n/t
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Pepper32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #25
72. Thank-you William! My chin is up, now. You really give me hope. n/t
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momzno1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #25
83. I join the crowd of people screaming
"I LOVE THIS MAN!!!!"
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #25
110. Can we meet somewhere for a scotch?
Pssst. I'll be under the lamppost wearing a trench coat. I can't wait to hear the news!
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dogindia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #25
115. I got an email back from NYT this evening as someone else said they did
saying they are going to cover this soon...wonder if it the same thing....breaking news. hope.....hope.....hope.....hope.....
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:32 PM
Response to Reply #25
188. No insult, just praise
for giving us the heads up.

Word.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:01 PM
Response to Reply #25
208. Thank you, William...
Understandably, you aren't able to spill too much. But thanks for the heads up.
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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:16 AM
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290. #1 and #2????? I'm confused....
Where was #1 and #2 defined? What are they? Help me God, I'm losing my mind!
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:29 AM
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310. LOL...okay, they were defined in a roundabout way. #1 was the bit about
Kerry and #2 was the bit about TRIAD. But, don't quote me on that, but I think that's what he meant.
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Left Brain Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:43 AM
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354. Thanks, Will, for the heads up.
I didn't see any kind of teaser in your post. Although we get excited, most folks here understand that too much information given too soon allows the opposition time to develop their spin.

Besides, even on the slim-to-nil chance that *nothing* significant happens tomorrow, let there be a rampant scrambling on the right to try and figure what all the speculation is about here. It's fun to make the little rats scurry.

I'm looking forward to Thursday, December 23! Thanks Will...
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:57 AM
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465. No jerk - no way
When we stop to think about how freepers steal any news here and use it to put up blocks, disclaimers and advance news of their own I believe we all understand why you can't get into detail until details are known.

And I just want to say how much we appreciate you and any news you feel free enough to share at your own discretion.

THANKS WILL! :pals:
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:52 PM
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36. i am smiling
i like to smile
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:53 PM
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37. How do you know? Do you have a link to information?
Teasing is fun, isn't it? (LOL!)
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Terre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:55 PM
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41. Really "in the Game"?
Really, really In the GAME??? Will it be a fast ball, curve? Game start early in the AM or are we waiting on a PM game?

OMG - I CAN'T WAIT!!

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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:01 PM
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59. At his age?
Let him throw knuckleballs and make them nuts. ;-)
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:13 PM
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79. Hey, I'd take some of those spitballs about now
How 'bout some Heinz ketchup. In industrial institution-sized jars. Dropped at a great height.

They can play dodgecondiment.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:02 AM
Response to Reply #41
365. I'd settle for a Press Conference. Sure would like to see his face again
...and hear his intelligent, rational voice.
Lord, do we need that right now!
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loritooker Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:55 PM
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42. 2 minutes ago depressed; now I so happy. n/t
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:15 AM
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288. Me too! (Look, my first "me too" post. LOL)
I left work so, so depressed, after reading DU all day. More depressed than I've been in a while, actually verging on the suicidal. I almost didn't pop on to check the latest developments...then, the first thing I see is this post!

WOOHOO!!!!!! <doing the Snoopy dance>

No matter what it is, even the smallest tidbit from JFK will be a wonderful xmas present.

:yourock:
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:56 PM
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43. Best post ever
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:56 PM
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44. Best news ever....I can hardly wait...
one more sleepless night.
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SnoopDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:56 PM
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45. Do you think the WA court decision has something to do with this? nt
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Left Brain Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:55 AM
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360. SnoopDog, I was thinking the same thing
I've been reading posts here all week that the Washington Supreme Court's decision about those 700+ uncounted votes will set the precedence and tone for Ohio. The WSC says "count 'em!"

It's beginning to look alot like a Kerry Krissmas.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:56 PM
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46. What a joke
I'm having a LOT of trouble imagining anything he could do that wouldn't be more of the same: too little waaaaay toooooooooo late.

Ridiculous worthless excuse for a Presidential nominee.

Well here's one thing -- perhaps he could hand over some of those millions to the people who were actively DOING something. That'd be a positive.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:57 PM
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53. we will see!!
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:58 PM
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56. You are a Deaniac?
You sound angry. Cut the man some slack.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:00 PM
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58. don't you think it's fair to wait and see what it is?
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 09:09 PM by Faye
that's a little quick to judge and also kind of rude when so many people are feeling relieved right now.

*oh yeah, and what happened to those 'insiders' who said Kerry wasn't involved at all???
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:24 PM
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96. Good question
Hmmmmm......
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #58
263. He wasn't
at the time. And AFAIK, he still isn't. All we have right now are vague promises, potentially quite empty (esp. given Kerry's track record on the subject).

But time will tell -- I'll be waiting with baited breath for THIS particular flip-flop.

I just can't friggin' wait.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:00 AM
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269. no offense
but you sound just as bad as Testy.


(dont' ask)
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:09 AM
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282. LOL!!! n/t
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Niche Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:17 AM
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292. "flip flop" hmmmm.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:15 AM
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289. So do you like your crow baked, fried, grilled or raw?
Because I think you will be eating it very soon! What makes you think you know about all that has been going on behind the scenes?
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:04 PM
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66. Quite respectfully:
Don't you think that having him actively and publicly involved would be a net plus for you and your efforts?

I do. Because he will be bring friends with him. Lots of friends. A whole posse. A whole posse, not without gravitas and clout.

You might find that very helpful.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:07 PM
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71. Thank you, Burgermeister Meisterburger
How are things in Sombertown, anyway.
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:09 PM
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74. My lord, the prodigal * returns. n/t
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:24 PM
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98. Kerry is a man of respect - I am a little taken back from your post. n/t
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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #46
107. That Is Your Opinion - Eloriel
And you need to remeber "OPINIONS ARE LIKE ASSHOLES EVERYBODY HAS ONE" so go blow your hot air where people will listen because as you can see no one here care's what your opinion is.
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:12 PM
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499. No One here, and you're right - I DO care what Eloriel
has to say. She's earned her stripes here - you haven't.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:39 PM
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133. Eloriel, I have not seen you quite so down.
I hope this will be something to raise your spirits!
It has been tough for many of us, and I look to your posts as someone to pay attention to.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:11 PM
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169. I second that. n/t
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:52 PM
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255. I triple that.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:09 AM
Response to Reply #133
281. Elorial has worked her @ss off on this board making information
easily available for us to use in turning this fiasco around FOR KERRY.

She has a right to be depressed and cynical. At least she's not like me with 10 minutes of "I'm mad at Kerry" and the next 10, "let's go Mr. President." You can find me at bipolar.com--Oh, by the way, I'm now in my happy pro-Kerry 10 with the new Pitt info. WooWooooooo!!!!!!!!

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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:45 PM
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142. Gosh, yes - a joke!
It would have been SO much better for him to contest the election immediately, without having ANY proof, and have the right wing media tear him to pieces bit by bit. Although you seem to be doing their job for them.

I've always believed he could not come forward without having actual, verifiable proof. He would have been torn up and spit out fast as you could say "Swift Boats".

Say what you want about Kerry - he's proven time and time again that he's a fighter, and that he's intelligent. He knows the enemy far better than you do. Would you have had him screaming out "fraud! fraud!" and have him painted as a sore loser, unbalanced conspiracy theorist, or even....well a dissident like most of us here? Personally I would prefer that he take the time to see whether there was provable fraud, and hard evidence to back it up.

I've been waiting for something like this. I think, if true, it means enough has been gathered to ensure that there's a damn good case. I think we may now have cause to celebrate. I can't WAIT!



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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #142
164. Excellent list of what would certainly have happened.
By waiting, we also inadvertently benefited from what has transpired since November 2nd. Junior, his administration, and his fundie followers have gone over the top and around the bend in these last 6 weeks or so since the election. The escalating disaster that is Iraq, Rumsfeld's arrogant responses to our troops' need for armor, torture in Gitmo and American-run Iraqi prisons, Kerik's nomination and subsequent meltdown, Katherine Blackwell, wingnut values follies and threats to change the Constitution, House members re-writing rules to benefit DeLay, moderate republicans pressured to toe the line by neocons, Rossi threatening to use the courts to appoint him governor, Social Security's own security hanging by a neocon-held thread, Junior briefly conferring with his tie in yesterday's press conference, etc. and so on. We couldn't BUY that kind of public idiocy if we tried!

If less than half the country approves of Junior now, how many do you think will rally to his side when his 're-election' unravels? :evilgrin:
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:13 PM
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174. Did you have to take a long, deep breath after saying all of that? LOL!
Actually, that was also a good summary of what has transpired just after the election. These people really need to be stopped, one way or the other, for this country's survival and our survival.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:46 PM
Response to Reply #174
197. I had to make myself stop
Or I would've cramped up and finished pecking out the rest of the list with my nose. ;) That "etc. and so on" is actually rather long. Unfortunately.

I still believe Junior will be unemployed by January 20th. Well, except in the one profession for which he's qualified:



:evilgrin:
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #197
311. You totally crack me up!
And you're right! But I don't think I'd let * serve me ice cream; although he could clean my bathroom!

Although I reserve these for you-know-who, here are a few for JK :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

And a few for WRP :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #164
179. Excellent list of what has happened
And we're not even into his "mandate" term. That is some scary stuff. Given enough rope I figured he'd hang himself, but I sure hope we can help him along. "Junior" should be locked up somewhere where he can't do any more harm.
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #164
204. OMG! And it's only been, what? 47 days? What tie chat?? n/t
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:00 PM
Response to Reply #204
207. This tie chat
Where Junior most definitely seems to be having a tete-a-tete with part of his wardrobe. Or, as Buzzflash phrased it: "What WAS Bush doing during his press conference? Not to go all "conspiracy theory," but he's clearly talking into his tie. Watch it." http://americablog.blogspot.com/archives/2004_12_01_americablog_archive.html#110374451616630999
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:10 PM
Response to Reply #207
216. I saw that! The man is obviously wired. Proof of his stupidity and
feebleness. What a pathetic loser!
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Niche Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:26 AM
Response to Reply #216
307. He also told the press they couldn't get him to debate...
himsef... (is that- with, for or against?) :freak:
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:27 AM
Response to Reply #307
375. Would that be "with, for or against" the 'wire' in his ear?
That's probably who he has a 'dialogue with quite often!
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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:20 PM
Response to Reply #207
224. thanks, I hadn't seen that nt
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:02 PM
Response to Reply #164
209. you're so right--and I believe that John Kerry is the best person to
do this kind of battle. He's a lawyer with experience prosecuting a case (never lost one), he knows Washington inside and out and how it all works, and he knows undercover investigation. Better stand back, everyone, if he is going to get actively involved!
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:57 AM
Response to Reply #164
340. Yes, the timing couldn't be more perfect...
perhaps the "January 6th Senator" we've been looking for has been right here, in front of our noses, all along?
Regardless of what the result on January 20th is, all it would take is one speech, one press conference about January 6th intentions to blow the lid off, and Scott Peterson, Michael Jackson, and Robert Blake having an orgy on Pay-Per-View (eewww!) couldn't pull this away from the MSM!
On the flip side, I can't imagine any action short of a January 6th announcement being effective or garnering anything more than ridicule from the MSM, but it is past my bedtime, so my imagination is not firing on all cylinders...I'll just settle down for a long winter's nap, with visions of not sugar plums, but an election thrown to the House and Senate...
This might, just might be "the best Christmas ever!" ;-)

Thanks, Will; you're just about the only one who could whisper this and get my attention after all the "conspiracies" of the post election days...
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #142
261. LMAO n/t
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:07 AM
Response to Reply #142
367. What a great Christmas present, if it's true!
n/t
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Lostnote03 Donating Member (850 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #46
154. I'm with ya!!!.....
.....However I pointed out the fact that since Theresa hasn't left his ass yet (Or at least appeared in public w/ a blackened eye) he was in all likelihood well aware of the current flow of information, especially at DU.....My guess is that both he and Edwards have descended upon DU at one time or another....We certainly will find out if his populist attitude has reemerged or if the DLC "think tank" has asserted its "one-eyed vision thing" again....
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read the law first Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:02 PM
Response to Reply #46
160. Isn't this about the tenth "Big smoking gun tomorrow" post?
I am so sick of "stand by" here it comes, it's big, big, big!! and then nothing of substance happens.

What's this, the tenth one this month?

Admittedly, not from this poster but, gee whiz, my little heart can't take much more of this "wait until tomorrow for something BIG!" stuff
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read the law first Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:18 PM
Response to Reply #160
177. If it's just that Kerry re-intervenes in the re-filed lawsuits....
If the big giant earth shattering news is just that Kerry re-intervenes in the re-filed lawsuits, I'm gonna hurl.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:11 PM
Response to Reply #177
217. Interestingly...
I'm hearing the same cryptic buzz on other sites from other people though. I wonder?
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read the law first Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #217
235. What buzz? What sites? n/t
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:42 PM
Response to Reply #235
245. A few others so far...
Kos is onto it. One of their regular contributors who has been providing excellent updates on the Ohio situation mentioned it about the same time William Pitt did. Also, I have seen this on two separate members only communities that I belong to. They are just private blogs. Talk of this just surfaced this evening, at about the some time on these four sites...

Maybe they are all getting it from each other, but it's hard to say.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 06:48 AM
Response to Reply #177
412. Not only
do you not have an analytical mind, but it seems your imagination is minuscule.

But you're certainly as game as a pebble. Always coming back for more. Attaboy!
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #46
211. Can you tell me?
I don't understand the hostility so common with the Dean fans toward Kerry. That seems to be a pre-requisite. Love Dean = Bash Kerry.
I happen to like both men, and see no reason to elevate one by flaming the other. Are you resentful because you wanted Dean to win the nomination, so you make Kerry a scapegoat?

I am thrilled to have two strong men (among many) in the party...why the hate? It strengthens us to have both these guys on our side.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:59 PM
Response to Reply #211
266. Well said, Vektor. I agree. :)
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #266
276. It just gets me down...
All the dissension in the party, that is. Sure, we are all going to pick and choose our favorite leaders, the ones who best represent our personal views, but to attack others kind of weakens the much needed solidarity of the Democratic party. This is NOT to say that any of these guys are above the law and immune to criticism, but the harsh insults make me cringe.

I definitely support holding our representatives accountable, but I hesitate to name call, especially with the Kerry situation, because we really know very little at this point about how this is going to turn out.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:06 AM
Response to Reply #276
277. thank you
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 12:06 AM by Faye
what happened to unity?? :hi:

some people are still stuck in the past :hi:
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:11 AM
Response to Reply #277
284. You're very welcome!
I'm just crossing my fingers that some good news will surface tomorrow that will recharge the party in a really positive way. I have no doubt that Kerry IS investigating matters, I just want to see the fruits of those investigations, as I am sure so many do...
I might not sleep well tonight!!
:crazy:
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:20 PM
Response to Reply #46
223. Kerry should have spoken up sooner
If we can get our voting system overhauled to where it's fool proof and honest that's I care about. We will take back everything in a shorter time then it was stolen. I don't really care how Kerry fits into all of this at this point.
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:18 AM
Response to Reply #223
371. The timing is interesting...in terms of the Holiday weekend...
There shouldn't be much if any "competing" Administration/Capitol Hill news (since everyone's recessed for the Holidays).

Maybe now we can have some nice Christmas dinner discussion with our previously gloating Repug friends and relatives!
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valis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:41 PM
Response to Reply #46
243. I keep saying it: Eloriel rocks!!
Her skepticism is quite understandable, I'd say. But we'll see tomorrow.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:59 PM
Response to Reply #46
264. Kerry is not worthless.
Shame on you for saying so.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:45 AM
Response to Reply #46
339.  I guess you wouldn't be happy even if he did overturn the race.
No matter what happens, you will always dislike him. But please, let us who respect him enjoy this moment of hope. We deserve at least this one tiny bit of joy!
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 04:49 AM
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384. Look, if it has nothing to do with changing this election, and--
--if Kerry will now take a powerful lead in putting election integrity on the front burner and keeping it there until something is done about it, he will have atoned for the IRW and PATRIOT Act votes in spades, and all is forgiven (from me, at any rate).
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:03 PM
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497. Kerry did the right thing letting this unfold. His attorneys never left
Ohio. Conyers said "Kerry is encouraging us and is keeping an eye on the issue." He also added long ago that Kerry would do what was necessary. I trust Conyers and I trust Kerry.

Kerry was a prosecutor, he's not one to make accusations without solid, patient evidence.

I knew Kerry would step in but would wait until he had to.
I am certain people will be disapointed no matter what the man does.
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:56 PM
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48. Thanks!
I'm sure you're sure...(better be sure)

Thanks again.

I'm just too happy... :toast:
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k8conant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:57 PM
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50. I hope it happens early on EST...
like 8 am
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:57 PM
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52. AwRIGHT!
One happy camper here! :D YEAH BABY!
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 08:58 PM
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55. Oh god, oh god, oh god .....
I just sent Cliff Arnebeck and President-elect Kerry this letter an hour ago. Normally, my last-ditch prayers don't get answered so quickly. William, I hope you are the bearer of good tidings. We need them here in Tennessee, the Orange State. Here's my letter:
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Dear President-elect Kerry,

I have been responsible for leading demonstrations at our state capital in Nashville for the past two weeks. Each time, over 100 people have shown up to protest the election theft and we have received coverage on our CBS TV affiliate (on air and on their web-site), our NPR station, a Tennessee-specific news web-site and (this past Monday) in our newspaper (in print and on their web-site). (See these links.)

http://www.tnimc.org/feature/display/3890/index.php
http://www.tennessean.com/nation-world/archives/04/12/63091649.shtml?Element_ID=63091649

We have also accomplished the broadcast of two 30 minute programs broadcast on the election theft on the two largest Clear Channel radio stations in middle Tennessee, reaching a 100 mile radius. I have email addresses of over 1,000 people, wanting to do something -- anything -- to overcome this election theft. The evidence is overwhelming, and exists everywhere we turn. We are all looking for a leader... and all we have are more appeals for more money from Cliff Arnebeck and the Greens/Libertarians and deafening silence from you.

I am completely broke, am receiving phone and mail threats, am noticing "spooks" at our rallies who follow me back to my truck and am being treated as if I've lost my mind by my family. But I, and the 1,000+ other people here in Tennessee whose email addresses I have, know that your election was stolen (and probably others down the ballot were also.) And yet, everyone keeps saying to us, "Well, if what you say is true, why isn't John Kerry saying anything? And why isn't the media covering this?" You and I know that the two questions are linked -- if you spoke up, the media would have to cover this theft. And yet your silence leaves the rest of us puzzled and vulnerable.

I still have a bumper sticker on my truck that reads "Help is on the way." So I have three questions:

1) Was that just empty rhetoric?
2) If not, do you intend to stand with the rest of us and lead this fight to save our democracy?
3) If so, when?

I keep being told that you were a good prosecutor and will step forward when the time is right. Well, if that time is coming before 2008, you need to let the rest of us in on it. Give me some sign -- any sign -- that we need to keep fighting to expose this coup and rally support here in Tennessee and we'll keep working hard. But if I don't hear anything at all back from you, we'll stop now. We don't want to stop. I have more than a hundred people wanting to meet on January 2 to plan our next steps. But we can't go on risking our own sanity, pocketbooks and necks without someone, and some cause, to fight for.

Give me some sign and we'll keep pushing. But if I hear nothing back from you, then we'll forget about it. And give up the country to the Republican Nazis, forever. The ball's in your court.

(my name) (my phone number)
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Please, oh please, William, let President-elect Kerry answer our prayers for the future of our country. Let him tap us all on the shoulders tomorrow and say, "I've got your back."

If that happens, I will have a very peaceful Winter Solstice.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:27 PM
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108. Let him tap us on the shoulder tomorrow and say, "I've got your back."
I did not watch "Going Upriver" before the election, but have watched it 4 times over the past weeks. It is awesome. The one thing I wish were true is that it contained Kerry's entire speech to the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee. "Upriver" doesn't include the part of the speech in which Kerry mentions war profits. Each time I have watched it I play the final scene over and over again -- the only scene in which we hear John Kerry at his current age. In it he is flying in a copter over Vietnam and saying that we still haven't learnt all of the lessons of Vietnam. Which lessons? International relations? Allowing companies that abuse their power to run our government? Which lessons?

I am guessing that tomorrow will be a small step -- a team of Kerry lawyers showing up at court in Ohio, instead of just McTigue. If this bums anyone out, I am just thinking this aloud, because if I keep my hopes in check I won't crash tomorrow. There've been lots of ups and downs in the past few days...

:eyes:

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dogindia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:40 PM
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136. oh God...what a great letter.
bless you..
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:11 PM
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168. That's a damn good letter!
:hi: from north Alabama.
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:18 PM
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221. As others have said before me here,
that is one wonderful letter. Well written AND descriptive of an individual of obvious character and grit. Thank you!
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Hannahcares Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:40 AM
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336. TN progressives support your efforts
Dear Fly By Night,
Loved your letter to Kerry and Arnebeck and really appreciate your efforts. I live in Williamson County and am a member of a Progressive/Activist group. How can we help in the on-going public awareness/publicity campaign? please advise...thanks! Hannah
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:03 AM
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452. Hannah,
You might want to check out the forum for your state. I know that the NC forum is pretty nice. It's full of peeps from NC who want to work on this issue.

Check out the forum for your state.

And welcome to DU!!! :hi:
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Daybreaker Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:08 AM
Response to Reply #55
390. I thought the Solstice was Tuesday.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:00 PM
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57. Would someone please...
Call Andy Stephenson and tell him? I suspect he would like to hear this.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:01 PM
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60. Truly, one of the most fun posts I've ever read! Thank you...
...for the playful suspense.

I do wonder if the "Triad" bit will have something to do with a certain 'back door' admission.....hmmmm, we'll see. ;-)
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:39 PM
Response to Reply #60
192. I'm feeeling more than usually dense
tonight, and out of it as well, since it's the first time all day I've logged onto DU. Have I missed something? What backdoor admission? C'mon.....one tease is enough!:9
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:59 AM
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323. Well, here's a little tidbit and I'll leave the rest to your imagination..
...Green Party County Corrdinator quoted from a conversation about Triad: "The Director for Fulton told me that Triad is able to reprogram the computer to count only the Presidential ballots by remote dial-up. I do not know when after the election that occurred." "County officials were cooperative."

http://votecobb.org/recount/ohio_reports/counties/henry.php

;-)
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goldengreek Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:01 PM
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61. Hope it's true.
Nothing would make me happier than to be wrong about the Democratic Party. And the wronger the better.
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Pepper32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:02 PM
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62. Teasing? Mann... I can't stand it lol
I can't stop dreaming of a President Elect Kerry, Christmas. :D
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:03 PM
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63. oh god. I hope so, Will. Thank you for the upbeat post. I just
heard two kids I had/know died in a five car pile up today in my town. I have to have some hope. Thank you.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:14 PM
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82. I'm so sorry to hear that, roguevalley
:cry: :grouphug:
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:20 PM
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87. its awful, raining here. they had a five car pile up and in the blink
of an eye, kids are dead. hug your kids. I am so glad to have found this thread. thanks, renate.
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k8conant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:46 PM
Response to Reply #87
146. How horrible...my prayers are for them and their families ...
and friends.
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PBS Poll-435 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #87
152. Off Topic...... for kicks and and answer
Is your handle referring to Rogue Valley, OR?
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joevoter Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 04:33 AM
Response to Reply #152
379. I'm in Ashland and I am chomping at the bit for the news
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joevoter Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 04:39 AM
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380. So very sorry - I just read the Roguevalley post - very sad
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:57 PM
Response to Reply #63
157. That's horrible.....
I wish you some peace. I would be a basket case. Take some flowers to lay at the scene of the accident - maybe a teddy or two.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:06 PM
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70. don't toy with me, honey!
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proudbluestater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:08 PM
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73. I am the luckiest person alive!
I don't have to work tomorrow until night. I will be able to sit glued to the Internet all day, awaiting the news! :D

Thanks William, for the great head's up!!
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Gothmog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:12 PM
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76. I will be waiting to see what happens
I am very curious to see what this news is.
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Niche Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:12 PM
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77. WILL I LOVE YOU! I LOVE JOHN KERRY! I LOVE DU
:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :kick: :puffpiece:


Is tomorrow Christmas!
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:13 PM
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78. William, thanks for the heads-up.
This is what I've been praying for.
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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:14 PM
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80. What is the Triad?
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:15 PM
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84. it's not an object
it's a company, that provides i THINK 70% of voting machines in Ohio.
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liam97 Donating Member (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:20 PM
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88. Triad provides all the central tabulators
the hotbed of all activity
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:20 PM
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89. Triad is the maker of the vote tabulation software in 41 OH counties
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:23 PM
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95. hi rosebud! uplifting news, eh?
:hi:
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:25 PM
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102. Hi Tracy! I have been suspecting Triad would be the key for weeks now
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:26 PM
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104. bait and switch
*wink*
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:22 PM
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93. Triad: See this article
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:24 PM
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99. We have an entry
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #80
100. Triad is the company that
owns the tabulators for 41 or 43 counties in Ohio.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:21 PM
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92. i really need something right about now -- please be something good!
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:24 PM
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97. I sure hope something happens....
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:25 PM
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101. Surely Will knows better than to tease at DU
and not deliver!

:evilgrin: :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:35 PM
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127. The man has integrity, and I respect it.
We all will have to wait to see what happens.
Sleep well, possums.
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #127
165. while visions of overturned elections dance in our heads!
:bounce: :party: :toast: :bounce: :party: :toast:
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:25 AM
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374. And HUGE celebration rallies on January 20!!!
Yahoo!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:26 PM
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106. You've given me/us hope!
What a great feeling! Thanks again, Will, for doing what you do and keeping us posted. I too will be glued to the tube/DU tomorrow.
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lostnfound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:30 PM
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116. :-) Thanks Will. That was very kind of you to share.
I'll be on the lookout tomorrow.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:28 PM
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111. You have made me perk right up while suffering
through the flu! Thanks - Looking forward to what tomorrow brings! :)
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pick_a_dilly Donating Member (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:28 PM
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112. counter attack . . .
After the very nerve racking TACTICAL RETREAT, Mr. Kerry will (need to) come out w/ guns ablaze . . .

let's face it:
the evidence is there --- hello it is obvius . . .
the time is right ---- right before long xmas holiday . . .
the evil ones are vulnerable . . . * has not done a thing right since . . . EVER!!!!!

LET"S MAKE HISTORY!!!!!!

i got your back President Kerry . . .
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:29 PM
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113. Oh my gosh, just when I thought Christmas was going to be a wash,
John Kerry is gonna come through and give us all the best present we could ever get. And then, if we could see Triad go down in red hot flames. What a bonus.

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yankeefanatic3 Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:29 PM
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114. My horoscope
After reading this, I had to look at my horoscope to see what kind of good luck I will have with Kerry.....And....low and behold

AQUARIUS: You can report for duty without having to report all your thoughts. At this point, some ideas are better left unspoken. Watch and listen to people with a different set of concerns. You'll feel better and learn a few things.

Need I say more??!?!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #114
118. wow
pretty cool
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #114
120. WOW almost 120 posts !
in such a short time. Definitely a kick!

:kick:
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:57 PM
Response to Reply #114
158.  yankeefanatic3 it really said report for duty ? n/t
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:47 AM
Response to Reply #114
428. Awesome!
I'm an Aqua, too.
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:35 AM
Response to Reply #114
445. That is too funny.
eom
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DeepGreen Donating Member (572 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:31 PM
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117. Kinda like Christmas Eve when I was a kid !
:)
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prosecutr1960 Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:31 PM
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119. i'm not going to hold my breath!
Recount is now over in Ohio. Kerry got less than 500 extra votes. Speaking as an attorney, there's really nothing that Kerry can do at this point. Arnebeck's suit will likely be thrown out Friday. But, with the holidays I don't know what the court's hours are. Prosecutors office here is closed Friday and Monday. We'll see.
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mostly_lurking Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:37 PM
Response to Reply #119
131. I don't think Arnebeck's suit will be dismissed
until at least 1/3/05 (seeing how he has given counsel on both sides until then to file briefs and rebuttals).

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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:48 PM
Response to Reply #119
148. KILLJOY! :-)
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George W. Hayduke Donating Member (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #119
149. mr. prosecutr...
ya can't call it case closed till all the evidence is in....

exhibit C,D and E could be coming right through those courthouse doors as we speak!

(metaphorically and literally)

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SaveAmerica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:06 PM
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212. Exhibit J F and K?? !! n/t
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:40 PM
Response to Reply #119
193. Huh? what? come again?
"there's really nothing that Kerry can do at this point."

Sure there is; he can come forward publicly and voice his specific concern. The MSM will have to report. That means that all of the folks who saw the candidate they voted for, AND who came out ahead in all the exit polls, address the election result discrepency, kinda like, you know, in Ukraine. You don't think that people ( those who DON'T spend time online, like most minority and working class) haven't been wondering how such an anomaly occurred, do you?
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:32 PM
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122. The Love Hate Saga Continues
Don't get me wrong, I love this thread. I just can't help but wonder with regards to John Kerry...

Will you still love him in the morning? :loveya:

Is you love for a person exactly contingent upon the outcome?

If it turns out that his strategy resulted in a positive outcome, will you forgive and forget?

If he fails in a valiant attempt will you be quick to judge?

Just curious....

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angrydemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #122
138. LMAO SEITO
That is a good question. Some people are unpredictable. It is like they have a built in light switch. One minute they love but wait that isn't right (flip) all at once they hate. LOL
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:28 PM
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231. I will love him for trying seito, no matter what the outcome.
I believe!!!!!!:loveya:
I love you John.
Thanks for giving us hope Will.
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Daybreaker Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:21 AM
Response to Reply #122
393. Interesting question ...
I guess my answer would be that I figure that the universe is composed of many different factors, most of which I'm neither strong enough nor smart enough to significantly affect. I'm bound to make mistakes sometimes, and I'm bound to fail other times. Can't change that. The only thing I really can control is whether or not I do what I believe to be the right thing, for the right reason.

That having been said ... winning is almost as nice ...
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 06:32 AM
Response to Reply #122
406. I'm proud to say that I haven't said a single word against the man.
I have however, stood up for him more than once. And will continue to do so. I've always felt that he's been working on this from day one and that he would NEVER go down without a fight. Kerry isn't a quitter. And I won't quit on him.


:bounce: :)
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:33 PM
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125. Hey Will, thanks for the heads up.
Fancying myself a realist, my hope muscles are a bit fatigued. How is everyone else?

I sincerely hope I am forced to eat every word I said about Kerry abandoning us. I would be more than glad to if he is finally going to fight. I'll resurrect my Kerry paraphernalia and join you all on the front.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:37 PM
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130. Ah! You didn't throw it away?
I couldn't either. It's in drawers, it's in the glovebox.

It's funny I saw three Kerry stickers today-and I hadn't seen any for awhile.

We are such dreamers! I love that we have hope in our hearts even in these darkest times.
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prosecutr1960 Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:36 PM
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128. not Triad!
Looks like Triad has been cleared at least by electio officials in Ohio. Check out the Ohio government web site or the Ohio recount sites.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:36 PM
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129. well obviously
something else is brewing about Triad and we will find out tomorrow :hi:
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:51 PM
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151. "Election officials in Ohio" are a joke. NT
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Karenca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:44 PM
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247. you're all over the place aren't you?
:evilgrin:
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:11 AM
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283. I hate to burst your bubble, but the OH election officials
have about zero credibility at this point, so why should we care if they have "cleared" Triad? Is that supposed to lend more legitimacy to Triad?

Puh-leeze.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:42 AM
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316. You mean that county prosecutor who is also the
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 12:44 AM by merh
attorney for the election board? I think he has a DEFINITE conflict of interest. Go read Olberman's blog, he admitted he was wrong in trusting the prosecutor given his conflict of interest!!!!

Triad is in it deep.

From KO's blog:


"Mr. Kalo also points out details that make the recount situation in Hocking County, Ohio, seem far less closed than the County’s Assistant Prosecutor led me to believe. I guess I’m still a little naïve on such things, but it would seem to me that in telling his story of a “comedy of errors” involving the inspection of the main vote tabulator there by a representative of the voting machine manufacturer, Triad Systems, David Sams might have been mentioned that in addition to being Assistant Prosecutor, he is also (per Mr. Kalo) the legal representative of the Hocking County Board of Elections during the recount .

I thought we had a bad jobs situation in Ohio. How come so many civil servants there have to double up?"
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:52 AM
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429. The conflict-of-interest stench
on Ohio is more than I can bear.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:39 PM
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134. Will -- is this stay tuned as in
MSM, or stay tuned here? Will this be really big?
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:39 PM
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135. Every morning it's been the first thing I think about
please let it be true!
:)
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JoMama49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:41 PM
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137. One thing I really wish the Kerry team would do is to DEMAND
the exit poll raw data from the MSM networks. I think if they were to do that, we'd really get some place with challenging the fraudulent election!
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:32 PM
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237. Maybe they have it now.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:44 PM
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140. WOO HOO!!!!!!!
Best news ever!!!!
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Mister Ed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:45 PM
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144. Whether the morrow brings joy or disappointment, we must all fight on. nt
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:12 PM
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170. Thank you Mister Ed
There is a whole lot of wisdom in your statement. For while there is still hope, there will always be those willing to fight on.

We must not relent in this fight. Regardless of the outcome, we must pledge to "fight on"

So let it be written
So let it be done

Welcome to DU :hi:
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:45 AM
Response to Reply #144
319. Straight from the horse's mouth!
:D

Well said. Welcome to DU! :hi:
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:47 PM
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147. YAY!
How the hell am I suppose to sleep now??? AND I have to be gone all day tomorrow! :cry::cry::cry::cry:
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:49 PM
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150. And, just today I officially gave up hope...
I have so much respect for John Kerry, and I am certain the election was stolen. But, after clinging to every tattered morsel of hope for 50 days, I made myself face reality today. I had to admit to myself that *bush would be inaugurated, and I would have to just live with it.

Just when I thought all hope was lost, here it is again. If it had been nearly anyone else posting this message, I would have refused to hope again. But....hope is on the way and here I am with a light heart once again. Win, lose, draw, or stolen election, John Kerry has my most sincere appreciation and respect. No matter what he does, or how he does it, he will have my support.
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:55 PM
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155. All I want for Christmas is Kerry for President!
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Desert Liberal Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:27 PM
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183. Me too! Can we ask Santa for it? eom
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:09 AM
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368. ...and Teresa as First Lady!
n/t
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:19 PM
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222. me too--I trust JK to do the right thing, always,
and always for the good of America, which he loves.

;-)
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pointsoflight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:22 PM
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226. I picked a bad day to give up sniffing glue. n/t
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:13 AM
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286. *a consoling pat on the back for Diane R*
:hi:
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:55 PM
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156. While waiting for news please listen to this song/video.
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Lauri Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:12 PM
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172. Thanks for the link!
That's a great song. Think that video will ever be played on MTV?!
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:37 PM
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191. Other Best Unknown Song: Yes! Yes!! Yes!!!
by Barenaked Ladies.
Wish I could link to the track :(
Here is a link to a rough "making of" video
http://stream.qtv.apple.com/qtv/WBR/barenakedladies/clips/bnl_clip_014_ref.mov

Enough is enough is enough is enough is enough is enough is enough again
I called your bluff 'cause you think you're so tough
Because you can make enemies out of friends
I am getting sleepy; I'm in your command
Yes yes yes I understand
Yes yes yes I understand

Over and over and over and over and over and over and over again
The experts concur so we're sure it occurred
We infer the sword is mighter than the pen
You are in Atlanta
I am in a band
Yes yes yes I'm in a band
Yes yes yes I understand

A fact is a fact is a fact is a fact is a fact is a fact to misunderstand
And all the detractors who question the cracks
Have been asked to retract or face reprimand
You are always lying
I am on the lam.
Yes yes yes I understand
Yes yes yes I understand

Repetition of suspicion
Takes a lie and makes it true

Nearer and nearer and nearer and nearer and nearer and nearar to our demise
The fear we adhere to appears to be steering
Our ears to where we're only hearing lies
With us or against us
The line is in the sand
Yes yes yes I understand
Yes yes yes I understand
Repetition of suspicion
Takes a lie and makes it true

Words & Music by Kevin Hearn, Steven Page & Ed Robertson
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:25 PM
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182. Thank you for that
that is a great song.
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Desert Liberal Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 09:58 PM
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159. Ohpleaseohpleaseohplease!!!!
Give us all a reason to CHEER!!!!
:headbang: :yourock: :loveya: :bounce: :toast: :party: :hippie:

Pleeeeeeeeeeeease!
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Acryliccalico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:21 PM
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180. Just got on and read the news
If this is true, this is so greeeeeeat. Thank you! thank you! thank you! :yourock: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

:toast: :toast: :toast:
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:03 PM
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161. can I have a raucous round of "Ode to Joy" blaring, humming etc??
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:07 PM
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163. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
:-)
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:09 PM
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166. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:12 PM
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171. Pleaseopleaseoplease be true
:yourock: :loveya: :bounce: :toast: :party:

This would absolutely make my year!
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Kellis Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:13 PM
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173. Thanks for the heads up~
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:18 PM
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178. Good news
and just when I was exhausted with Christmas preparations.

Thanks for the heads up, Will.

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VTGold Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:22 PM
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181. Heart goes thump thump thump,,,,,,,,,,,,,,n/t
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:28 PM
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184. My wife already thinks I am completely off my nut...
...if I tell her I heard on DU that something big is happening with Kerry tomorrow and it doesn't...well you are all probably in the same spot as I...either way I am taking a leap of faith that this is for real...good luck everybody.
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thjay Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:15 PM
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219. oh man.....can I relate to that
I just logged in and went straight to this post. Now I'm debating if I should go get my husband to tell him the news. He accepts that there were voting irregularities but he thinks I'm obsessed with following the story.

So he's right about me being obsessed, but shouldn't the whole country be?
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bronco Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:28 PM
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185. hope is the best
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 10:30 PM by bronco
this is only my second post on DU... and the reason i've been reading these forums over the last month or so is because of the HOPE that is everywhere here.

after nov3rd, i still had a ton of hope that it wasn't over, and people just looked at me like i was crazy - if i was lucky, that is... most people ignored me and my excitement over the ohio recount. it was like my hope was some kind of stigma, and it still is.

you all continue to support my hope. thank you!

bronco
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:51 PM
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199. Welcome to DU!!!
"Keep hope alive!" as Jesse says. :hi:
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:57 PM
Response to Reply #185
205. Welcome!
Hi there, I am pretty new, too. Nice to meet you. :-)
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:29 PM
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186. Game of what? Trivial Pursuit?
:evilgrin:
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:32 PM
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187. I've learned to respect and trust you, Will
...that's why I'm really looking forward to drinking your champagne!

Heck buddy, I might even chip in a little if we get a good crowd. What's the food of choice for Bostonians when drinking the bubbly?

:yourock:
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Splinter Cell Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:32 PM
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189. What does this mean though?
I hate to be stupid, but I am. Can somebody tell me what everyone is so excited about? All it says is Kerry will get into the game. What could that mean? The only thing that would raise my hopes at this point is if Kerry would retract his concession. Then I'd know something is about to hit the fan...
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:29 PM
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232. I don't know much, but I think if he gets into the game
It means there IS a game. Which to me means there is enough proof of fraud, or some type of illegal activity for him to speak publicly about it. MSM will not be able to ignore it, and maybe investigative reporters will start doing their jobs. If Kerry "gets into the game", there's gotta be something there.
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:33 PM
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190. I'll be honest - I'm skeptical
I'll be watching. But I'm a little skeptical. I trust you Will, but while I'm sure you have your sources, I have to say I 'm just gonna wait and see. I'll be watching.
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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:43 PM
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195. I Soooooooooo needed this positive news!
Thank you William!
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:44 PM
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196. almost #200!!!!!!!!!! posts....
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 10:44 PM by Viva_La_Revolution
:bounce:
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Griffy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:48 PM
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198. too soon.. I though he should wait till after xmas.. nt
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:24 PM
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227. he has been known to be unpredictable in the past........n/t
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Boswells_Johnson Donating Member (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #198
233. If it's really big, it might be best that it happens over the holidays
so that people have some time to think about what's been going on, and what will be happening...
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:39 PM
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242. I suppose it depends on what he's got
If it is BIG, it will make for interesting dinner conversation over the Holidays...
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Nictuku Donating Member (907 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 10:53 PM
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201. Dare I hope?
First post! (I love DU, a wealth of Info that I've been passing on)

For now, 'Holding my breath til tomorrow'.
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:42 PM
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246. Welcome to DU Nictuku
:hi:

Always Dare to Hope

:bounce: :party: :toast: :party: :bounce:

No Retreat No Surrender
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:03 PM
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210. OMG
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :toast: :toast: :toast: :party: :party: :party: :party: :hippie: :o :D :-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) :7 B-) :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

Please let this be true!
:kick:
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:08 PM
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214. Whatever you're smoking - pass it over here!
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 11:10 PM by meisje
:eyes:


Next I'll be seeing "Kerry Landslide" threads again
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preciousdove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:17 PM
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220. Today: This, my baby grandson & my MRI out of the way YAY!
:yourock:
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #220
275. Congratulations! Is this your first grandson?
and hope all went well with the MRI...

:toast:

and a great big :kick: for all the good news.
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preciousdove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:48 AM
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357. Yes the first n/t
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 04:29 AM
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378. How wonderful!
Congratulations! What beautiful news. And I hope congratulations are in order for the results of the MRI too.
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satya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 04:45 AM
Response to Reply #357
382. What a joyous gift! I'm so happy for you!!
Wishing you and your family all the best!
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:27 PM
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228. A profound thank you
You just made my day. It's just that when you
see pure evil taking over the U.S.A., it really
depresses you. With your news, it will be a
beautiful Christmas. Thanks again!!!:) :) :)
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:45 PM
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250. Welcome to Du BigBearJohn n/t
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:59 PM
Response to Reply #250
265. Thanks! :)
Hi SueZhope (good monicker!)
You ain't seen the last of me.
I have just about ended a month's
vacation and can't get away from
this vote fraud issue. My friends
are getting sick of me emailing
all this stuff about the election,
but it is making a difference.

Thanks for the acknowledgement.
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:27 AM
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309. BigBearJohn
Thanks to you also!!

I can relate to what you said.
I had to stop emailing my friends about the fraud.
I kept hearing things like....get over it, yeah so what they stole it
nothing you can do . bla bla bla

Without Du I would have gone off the deep end on Nov 2nd
Great time to join in on the chat...:toast: cheers
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:27 PM
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229. THANKS WILL!! Hi Eloriel the Great
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 11:29 PM by Melissa G
I have often felt as you do about Kerry but I am a small retailer...
After the 2000 election all sales were paralyzed, restraunts were empty, everyone was glued to their TV"s. Same with the last quarter of 9/11. The other Shrub years were pretty weak and sales are way down again this year.
I both wanted immediate outrage and feared the loss of my business because of it. I have to say that I am grateful that the Kerry kick in is (hopefully) happening now.
With the state of our economy I bet many folks are grateful! This may have been part of the plan if Kerry was looking at a hurting economy as a factor. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. My personal deadline is January for him to come through.
Unlike with *, I am willing to believe he has more data to make decisions with than I do and trust a bit. I wish it had been Dean though also.
THANK YOU WILL!! I THINK I LOVE YOU!!! I love you too Eloriel!
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:08 AM
Response to Reply #229
279. Oh, Melissa
He's had no "plan." I see this line of thinking re Kerry and this election -- how "smart" he's being.

It's all completely and utter bunk. He's NEVER had a "plan." His plan, formulated probably no earlier than Nov. 2 or very early on the 3rd, was to concede. It was over. Other people stepped in to fill the void, thanks to some DUers and a certain 3rd party candidate. Still Kerry had no "plan" other than perhaps to stay safe and out of the fray, but absolutely NOTHING beyond that despite numerous pleadings from a bunch of different quarters.

Has he finally DEVELOPED a "plan"? Pffft. I'll believe it when I see it. It'll take a lot to convince me and way more than that to impress me. In fact, come to think of it, I don't think he can dig himself out of the hole he's built for himself with me. AFAIC he's been nothing but a sniveling, utterly clueless and totally worthless coward through all of this, perfectly content to let others carry HIS water.
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Niche Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:03 AM
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325. Ouch!
:dem:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:27 PM
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230. SOME PEOPLE ARE NEVER SATISFIED
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 11:28 PM by Faye
and i'm not referring to the original post. you know who you are.
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IndyPriest Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:36 PM
Response to Reply #230
239. LMAO! Faye, do you know those people who
are always SURE it's going to rain on their vacation, the damn flowers are NEVER going to come up, that stupid faucet is ALWAYS going to leak, there are NO honest people left on the planet, and they can NEVER get a good haircut?
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:14 AM
Response to Reply #239
287. yup
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 12:15 AM by Faye
and Kerry is a weak weak man and he has no plan, not one, nada, ever ever for the rest of his life....we are doomed to all hell.....yeah we should have a different candidate....blah blah blah :eyes:

:hi: i can't see you now and my night will continue to be filled with hope and anticipation :hi:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:37 PM
Response to Reply #230
240. my brother asked me to look at a christmas email card
tonight. he said something about it just bothers me. later he told me, they say something really beautiful,.......like all the wonder in this world, yet the always finished it with a negative, like millions of people dont have the same opportunity.

he wanted to know why, with each inspiring comment there had to be a negative

i told him, some people cant appreciate and value just the beauty. in their whining ways, they need to see others worse off in order to value life, or see literally they dont have it so bad to appreciate what they have

sad, but true.

where as some of us can simply say thank you
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sparky_in_ma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:35 PM
Response to Original message
238. I think it's time...
to return to Doohickie's "I believe" thread. :toast:
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IndyPriest Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:37 PM
Response to Reply #238
241. Let's go, Sparky! n/t
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super simian Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:42 PM
Response to Original message
244. Response from NY Times
Here is my letter sent several weeks ago:

Dear Mr. Okrent,

After what happened in Florida in 2000, we all know that this country has a deeply flawed election process.  We desperately need centralized standards and we desperately need non-partisan oversight at the federal level.  This is something that deeply concerns every U.S. citizen, regardless of political affiliation.

Since November 2, evidence is mounting that our deeply flawed election process - which is basically a free-for-all at the precinct level - may (worst case scenario) have delivered us the wrong president for another four years!  

The Democratic side of the House Judiciary Committee, under the leadership of Rep. John Conyers, held hearings last week to investigate what appear to be massive and widespread voting problems in Ohio.

Why does a newspaper like the New York Times completely ignore these hearings?  Would it have been newsworthy if a few Republicans had been involved?  I would appreciate some insight into this, since it is really confusing,

Best wishes,

Writer
______________
Here is the response that I received today:

Dear Writer,

Several hundred other readers have raised similar concerns requesting more coverage on this issue. Mr. Okrent asked me to let you know that he does not believe The Times's coverage of the voting in Ohio is over; please stay tuned.

Sincerely,
Arthur Bovino
Office of the Public Editor
The New York Times
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:53 PM
Response to Reply #244
256. Oh My God!!! That is amazing. All these clues and hints and inuendos....
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PennyK Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:57 PM
Response to Reply #244
262. The REAL President steps forth!
My first post...this is the most wonderful thing I can imagine (at this point, all we CAN do is imagine!)
I actually called The Times' editorial office a few days ago to complain about the lack of coverage...I ranted for a few minutes...no response...but there have been a few small articles on the back pages.

So, WHERE should we be looking for the news?
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IndyPriest Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:17 AM
Response to Reply #262
293. Hey! Welcome, PennyK!
And what a day to join, and what a thread to get in on!

From the whiffs in the air, I'm guessing there may be something in the NYT tomorrow (this!) morning. Otherwise, check back here!
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Higans Donating Member (819 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:39 AM
Response to Reply #262
314. top & bottom Welcome to DU!!!
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IndyPriest Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:43 AM
Response to Reply #314
317. Higans! That sign is WAY good!!
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Lil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:22 AM
Original message
". he does not believe The Times's coverage of the voting in Ohio is over"
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 12:29 AM by Lil
Excellent letter. Thanks for that as well as the response you received. :-)
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:44 PM
Response to Original message
248. Conyers publishes letter
Hey Guys

Check out the new letter just posted:
http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/triad_letter.pdf

Also, here's a video that was on the site momentarily and
then for some reason disappeared. It's an interview with
a Triad technician.

http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/triad_tech.mov
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IndyPriest Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:59 PM
Response to Reply #248
267. Another Q: could we please have your neck size...
and those of your employees as we are preparing a few hangings!
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:21 AM
Response to Reply #248
297. holy crap -- powerful seeing it in print
and i love conyer's sig.
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Red State Blues Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:33 AM
Response to Reply #248
313. 459 MB
And I'm on dialup. Could anyone please summarize the interview with the technician.

459MB - my computer just laughed and laughed.
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IndyPriest Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:59 AM
Response to Reply #313
324. Hi, Red : the gist of the interview
with the Triad prez (Rapp) and OH field rep (Barbian) was that they admitted they were "coaching" the OH BoEs with "helpful information" so that the BoEs wouldn't have to hand count the votes. They were trying to sell the story that their machines were accurate and that a hand count can't be trusted! In his letter to Rapp and Barbian Conyers reminded them that every single instance of their involvement was prime facie evidence of a crime.
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Red State Blues Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:55 AM
Response to Reply #324
361. thanks Indy n/t
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:49 AM
Response to Reply #248
320. Thanks for the link to the letter BBJ!
That's some pretty hot stuff.
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:01 AM
Response to Reply #248
388. Tasty, ain't it?
You are quite welcome!! Don't know why they don't list it
on the website (maybe it's because of huge traffic it might
generate if everyone tries to download it -- oops!)
It's amazing to me that the "tech" admits right on camera
how he "helped" avoid a major recount. It's all there
ON CAMERA -- !!
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Vote4Kerry Donating Member (372 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:46 PM
Response to Original message
251. Senator Kerry reporting for duty?!! Best news of the day!!
That will be my Christmas present--thanks for posting Will!
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Rtd2 Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:48 PM
Response to Reply #251
254. good news
yes! good news but I'm afraid the only duty he will have is in the SENATE..Oh well
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:54 PM
Response to Reply #254
258. LMAO
Thanks for the errr optimism....

:bounce:


"For America, the hope is there. The sun is rising. Our best days are still to come." - John Kerry - July 29, 2004
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:56 PM
Response to Reply #254
259. Yep, despite it all, I think he's still doing just what he said he would
making sure everything gets counted.

I'm not getting my hopes up for a President Kerry.

But I do love dat man when he's fired up. Hope he gets some MSM attention.
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:02 AM
Response to Reply #259
272. You know not to get me started Little Clarkie
John Kerry all fired up :loveya::loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

and Edwards too :loveya:

Fire it up :nuke:

:bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:56 PM
Response to Reply #254
260. hi Rtd2
Edited on Wed Dec-22-04 11:56 PM by Faye
:hi: Welcome to DU! :hi: :hi: :hi:
(btw, it's R2-D2 get it right)
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #260
274. I sense a fear in the air
That is fear right?....

LMAO
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sparky_in_ma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:21 AM
Response to Reply #274
299. I believe
that fear is an accurate term in this instance. Don't you just love it when negativity rears it's physically-pleasing-challenged head? :silly:
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:13 AM
Response to Reply #274
329. Oh THAT'S what that smell is...
I thought my cat had just crapped on the rug again.

:evilgrin:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:01 AM
Response to Reply #254
270. speaking of useless....
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:47 PM
Response to Original message
253. Oh Fuck Another Sleepless Night!
I just got on and read the news! But I think I'm getting the heebie jeebies from the wait!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-22-04 11:53 PM
Response to Reply #253
257. Eh, what's one more
I haven't had a decent night's sleep since the first debate.

I thought the election would cure that. I was wrong.

So... what's one more.
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Amaryllis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:24 AM
Response to Reply #257
304. I haven't slept since I read Ronnie Dugger's August article "How They
Could Steal the ELection This Time."
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20040816&s=dugger

He pretty much predicted the whole thing. So in the months before the election, I had had this sinking feeling the whole time. I was depressed and afraid. And I really had no one to talk to about it. I emailed MoveOn and everyone I knew and tried to get them to contact their congress people about the legislation designed to protect us against exactly what happened with the voting machines and tabulators, legislation that had been sitting in congress for over a year, blocked by Delay in the House from even getting a hearing! H.R. 2239 or S. 1980 And nothing...no one seemed to get it. No one to talk to about it who got it. And I keep finding more sites like verified voting and black box voting...and I was getting more and more paranoid.

I worked my butt off for Kerry anyway, hoping we'd have enough of a margin to compensate, but didn't realize that it didn't matter how much we had because they'd make sure they had more. And the whole time I'm realizing the implications. If they have the elections, they have everything. I found an article that said no way we could win; they already had it fixed and the media wouldn't report it and no one would know because of that.

So there I was on election night with my friends watching, and I'm saying, "They did it again! They stole another one! It's the tabulators. I knew they were going to steal it..." And they're all looking at me like I'm weird...so the next day I am online searching, searching, and within days Thom Hartman and Greg Palast are coming through so I'm not feeling so nuts...
then thank God for DU.

And now I am on the steering committees for two groups who are working on this, and we are connecting with other groups all over the state and even out of state. I am obsessed. I have been obsessed for five months now...I keep having this feeling of what it must have been like in Germany during Hitler's rise to power for those who could see the writing on the wall and those around them couldn't. Thank God for the internet. It is ironic that the very electronic technology that they used to rig the election is what allows us to communicate and form a movement to fight back.


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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 06:11 AM
Response to Reply #257
403. Aging me quickly!
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:01 AM
Response to Original message
271. Yea Will! Someone please post the Pitt ponytail pic
I AM SOOOOO HAPPY!!!! Happy Winter Soltice Present!!!
I think I'm going to Columbus to Protest!!!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:02 AM
Response to Original message
273. tis tomorrow 12:01 eastern,.............so waz up??????
teasing
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IndyPriest Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:09 AM
Response to Reply #273
280. I think it's going to be an all-nighter! n/t
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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:12 AM
Response to Original message
285. Can you please tell me (in some non-specific way) how you know something..
about this?

Are you connected somehow? Can you explain how (in some non-specific way :) )

I respect the need to be incognito, especially given the nature of the enemy.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:17 AM
Response to Reply #285
291. a 1000 plus posts and you dont know will?
he is a writer and has inside info. and a tease, wink,........lol lol again teasing
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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:22 AM
Response to Reply #291
301. I'm an anomoly...anomaly....anomely...strange case.
The posts came fast during the election lead-up. I was disabled...home from work..so the internet became my activity.
Do we know anything about Will? How accurate are his announcements? Should we expect something big everytime he tells us to expect something big?
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:25 AM
Response to Reply #301
305. Read This
and then look at the rest of TruthOut

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/121604Z.shtml
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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:32 AM
Response to Reply #305
312. OK, now I remember. I do read truthout, but being a leftist site
it gets taken with a grain of salt.

Good job on that article WPitt!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:17 AM
Response to Original message
294. Thank you Mr. Pitt!
I don't mind the tease, it makes the main event that much more powerful! Have a great night! :toast:

:loveya: I believe in President Elect John Kerry!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:19 AM
Response to Original message
295. Thank you!!!
Thank you for speaking out. Thank you for joining up with the Kucinich campaign. Thank you for simultaneously giving props to Kerry. Thank you for all you do and THANK YOU FOR THIS!!
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wlubin Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:21 AM
Response to Original message
298. I don't mind the tease at all. I am going to sleep great tonight!
:headbang:
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Obviousman Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:25 AM
Response to Original message
306. Any details?
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:27 AM
Response to Reply #306
308. wtf?
why are you giving us a link to satanism? :shrug:
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #308
315. maybe its all about the administration? dunno..?
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Obviousman Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:52 AM
Response to Reply #308
321. LOL
It's my attempt at a google bomb. William Donohue is the idiot president of the catholic league. I thought it would be funny to launch the satan website to #1 on his google search
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drummer55 Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:44 AM
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318. something on the triad front
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Niche Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:25 AM
Response to Reply #318
332. I have tried to play the video link (referenced above)...
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 01:26 AM by Niche
keeps looping just a couple seconds... anyone else have this prob? And another

KICK! :dem: .
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drummer55 Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:30 AM
Response to Reply #332
333. Its a pdf from conyers dated dec 22 to triad
beats the heck out of them and wants some answers
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hangloose Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:09 AM
Response to Original message
327. This type of post is bullshit
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IndyPriest Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:16 AM
Response to Reply #327
330. Hey, hangloose: hangloose! n/t
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hangloose Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:30 AM
Response to Reply #330
334. Generally I'm hanging loose on freeway overpasses, but I don't
have patience with the the tease tactics. I feel when there's something to say, say it. These attempts to sucker responses don't wash with me. But, hey I'm just one guy, seems like I am outnumbered on this post a hundred to one.
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thjay Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:26 AM
Response to Reply #334
344. are you the freewayblogger?
www.freewayblogger.com

I love this site. I wish it would get updated with new signs.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:28 AM
Response to Reply #334
345. Then you don't know Will
He is not, I repeat NOT teasing us. He is sharing a bit of inside news with us. If Will thinks it is a major development, then I believe it will be. Waiting IS the hardest part but anticipation is exciting and invigorating.

I will NOT question any news from Will. I, like others on this thread, was feeling so blue tonight. I was driving home from my second job wondering just how I was going to be able to draw another breath and if it would be possible to concieve of another four years of waiting for his next moronic shoe to fall.

Now, I have something to look forward to again and it feels good. It renews my faith and steels my will to fight.

Sorry if Will's integrity "doesn't wash with you" but those of us that know Will and his work and appreciate his efforts will let it "wash all over us" tonight.

Having said that -- Thanks for the heads up Will. You are my journalistic Knight in Shinning Armor! :loveya:
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #334
502. They don't
seem to have much of a chance of "hanging loose" with you around, do they, hangloose? It seems some of you need classes in hanging loose.

When they said nothing to keep our spirits up, the criticisms of them were even more rabid. Now they have something they say will be substantial, but which they can, at the moment, just hint at, they still get it in the neck. They can't win whatever they do with some DUers and visitors.

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selmo7 Donating Member (275 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:10 AM
Response to Original message
328. God bless us, Everyone! n/t
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boi1946 Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:21 AM
Response to Original message
331. Thanks, Will!
For the news and for all that you have done.
I knew, after reading JK's biography, and his and John Edwards' book, that he would not let this go unchallenged. But if he had played his hand too early, without good evidence, he would have been bulldozed by the Red Machine...
The MSM blackout which has so infuriated us has worked in JK's favor because he has not had to do interviews and press conferences, etc.
And by waiting, he allowed B* and Roveco to get a little complacent, and maybe a little sloppy. Staying behind the scenes, using surrogates in the form of the lawyers, and Reverend Jackson, who said he was acting as a liaison for the John Kerry, gave him the time to investigate with only the pressure of time.
I have never stopped believing...
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valis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:31 AM
Response to Original message
335. Any bets? I'll donate $50 to DU if it's anything substantial.
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 01:32 AM by valis
I mean, something more than talk, with actual consequences. C'mon everybody, put your money where your mouth is :D
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Cyclical Donating Member (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:10 AM
Response to Reply #335
341. I'll play.
Valis, put me in for $25 to DU soon as something actually happens.

Not applicable if I die waiting.

oh, and I'll give another $50 if JFK II ever actually steps up and claims his presidency. I'd do more, but I really can't even afford my community college tuition this semester.

Sigh. 4 more years of Shrub won't help, neither. C'MON, KERRY!
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 01:40 AM
Response to Original message
337. Thank you Will ! Smooches!
Hoping Hoping! Hoping!:loveya:
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:11 AM
Response to Original message
342. this is making even
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 02:15 AM by malatesta1137
Kerry-bashing, angry-bitching, bitter-negative malatesta smile!

:loveya: :nuke: :hi: :toast: :party:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:12 AM
Response to Reply #342
343. wtf
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 02:37 AM by Faye
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:34 AM
Response to Reply #343
348. can you get a life?
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 02:45 AM by malatesta1137
stop stalking me.

Let's just see if he FINALLY got a backbone.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:36 AM
Response to Reply #348
351. can you take a joke?
:hi: i was expressinig my amazement at your comment. :hi:
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:48 AM
Response to Reply #348
356. lolllll
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 02:48 AM by Faye
first i'm harassing you, then i'm stalking you? chill man, i was just playing around.......and hey - i actually haven't replied to you in a long time ;)
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:18 AM
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372. yeah, in a long time
like in the last 16 hours? :freak:
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:32 AM
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347. LOL
Indeed!!

:hug:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:35 AM
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349. And then the Grinch's heart grew ...
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 02:35 AM by LittleClarkie
The sky is falling! The sky IS falling! It's falling, the sky!

Dogs and cats living together! Mass hysteria!

Surely the end is nigh.

Heh, good on ye Mal. I hope tomorrow is indeed a good day.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 11:50 AM
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493. Holy shit!
I can't believe it :wow:
;-)
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 02:48 AM
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358. you better not pout...
I'm telling you why...SANTA CLAUS IS COMING TO TOWN!!! This is just the kind of news I've been waiting to hear!:bounce:

I'd like to share the letter I sent to Kerry late last week:


Dear Mr. Kerry,
I teach high school and I was hoping to give a
different perspective re: the 2004 election fraud. I
love what I do. My students are indeed the future of
this country and it concerns me when they express
cynical and jaded views regarding the direction of our
political system. These young adults see things
fairly black and white because they have not had the
life experiences that often taint our beliefs as we
grow older. Therefore, I find it critically
imperative that these young adults have a moral
compass and role models that embrace honor, integrity
and courage. They are watching us closely right now
and it becomes increasingly difficult to explain that
corruption hasn't infected everything throughout this
country. How can we expect them to "do the right
thing" for their generation if we are unwilling to
model ethical behavior from our own? Mr. Kerry- you
have a unique opportunity to LEAD these young adults
by your EXAMPLE! I realize this task will not be an
easy one. You have displayed courage and leadership
throughout your lifetime by drawing strength from your
convictions...we need you now more than ever before!
Please trust that the 60 million people who share in
your values will be behind you in this fight. There
is so much at stake. The future of our country
depends on it! Your leadership and passion for
integrity will ignite a flame of promise for these
young adults...good CAN triumph over evil! I hope you
will continue to challenge the authenticity of the 2004
election regardless of the outcome. Fighting for the
integrity of our democracy can only be a winning
proposition! Thank you.


:dem: It sure sounds like "HOPE IS ON THE WAY"!!!!!! Right on!!!!
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:00 AM
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364. up early tomorrow
Well, I thought I was going to sleep in tomorrow, but it looks like I'll be setting the alarm clock and getting up early.
First the WA Supreme Court's decision to count the votes and the tide turning for Gregoire today and now hopeful news for tomorrow.
Oh Happy Day :)
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dzika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:05 AM
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366. Could it be related to Jesse Jackson's statement?
"In a December 21 conference call with activists from the around the
US, Jackson said he has urged Senators Kerry (D-MA) and Hillary
Clinton (D-NY) to stand with US Representatives who intend to
challenge the Electoral College's expected approval of George W.
Bush for a second term. "

http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/1015
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:12 AM
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370. That would work if Congress was in session tomorrow, but it isn't
Why would he pre-announce such a thing. No, I think this will be something different.

Clinton? Damn, I'd be surprised.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:11 AM
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369. Indpendence Hall ?? or Faneuil Hall??
;)
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ZRB Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 03:41 AM
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377. A Kerrymas Card for All DUers!
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 03:44 AM by ZRB
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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 04:47 AM
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383. Come Back John Kerry
Woo Hoo, it's 2am on west coast where I am, that makes it 5am on east coast, maybe I'll just keep staying awake and see what happens. Btw, got an e-card today from Edwards family, holiday greeting and I hoped it "meant something" then kicked myself for working so hard to raise my hopes again. I've been upbeat about it all, till these last 4 days when I started self-talk about being in my own denial, so yearning for Kerry to come back and put it all right. Military family here, 2 deployed to Iraq, 15 months, both scheduled for second tours, and without Kerry that is damn sure gonna happen.

:grouphug:
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roenyc Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 04:56 AM
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385. Well its 4:55 am on the east coast
thanks for keeping hope alive. i went to bed last night thinking we were doomed after yesterdays hearings.

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goodboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:26 AM
Response to Reply #385
439. welcome back to "perspectives" I'm your host...
remember that Tim Meadow's skit?
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 04:59 AM
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386. I'm so glad I checked DU tonight and saw this thread!
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 05:04 AM by TheGoldenRule
It's 2 am pacific time and it'll be a miracle if I get any sleep now...lol!
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:00 AM
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387. He really has to un-concede at some point, soon...
I'm willing to cut the man some slack. He was in an extremely dicey and dangerous position on Nov. 3, and has been ever since. If he has read everything we've read, he now knows that he won, possibly by a landslide (and he could well have more evidence than we do--although the publicly available evidence is overwhelming, in my opinion--don't need no "smoking gun" when you have "redshifts" like that in every kind of data you look at, whether Exit Polls vs. "official results," or paper vs. electronic, or top of the ticket vs. lower ticket, or touchscreens changing Kerry votes to Bush votes--jeez, could it be any clearer? Then add in Ohio...)

I know his concession has no legal force, but it does have quite huge political and P.R. force. In fact, it convinced most of those who voted for him that he had lost in a fair and square election, and there has been little or nothing in the news media to disabuse them of that notion.

Latest opinion poll says only about 20% think the election was rigged. Although Bush's approval numbers are in the toilet (49%! --that's miserable), and a fat 57% disapprove of his war--quite remarkable numbers--that 20% on the rigged election means an uphill battle on P.R. I do think, though, that the majority that has been deprived of their rightful president WILL rally, once they know. But they are going to have to be hit with lightning, or something. It needs to be a startling announcement--and I think an un-concession would do it.

To get the media attention that is needed, to rally the public and the other Democrats, and to put the Republicans in Congress on notice (that he is not going to take their usual crap on this matter), he needs to SAY that he thinks he won, and that he is going to challenge this election.

If he just continues to say that "every vote should be counted" and that he supports the Ohio efforts--but does so in a more public way (a press conference? joining the Arnebeck lawsuit?)--I don't think that will be enough to rally the support he needs.

He might want to save an unconcession announcement for the last minute (the rattlesnake strategy), but, given the Iron Curtain over election fraud news, the public's almost total ignorance of what is going on, and the apparent glue-brained condition of many in the Democratic leadership, I think he has to strike now, and hard.

And I hope that's what's coming up. But I am content to wait until Jan. 6 to make any judgment of Kerry.

Personally, I think that he MUST fight this. History is calling upon him to do so. This is not just the life or death of the Democratic Party, or one man's career. This the life or death of American democracy. This is it. And, although history--and all of us--are asking a lot of him (he has far more at risk, and will be in a lot more danger, than any of us), it is not often that circumstances give a decent, courageous and intelligent man like Kerry the opportunity to pull his country back from disaster and self-destruction.

History is replete with countries and empires that went over the cliff, and descended into violence, repression, chaos and barbarism. THIS one--probably because of how it started, its revolutionary foundation in ideas, such as freedom of speech, freedom of religion and the consent of the people--has a chance to NOT go that way, to stop, to assess, and even to undo some of the damage that has been done.

Kerry has this rare opportunity, given to few men. In short, the Great Spirit is calling upon him. Will he answer? Can he?

Although we and others will fight the good fight without him, if we have to, he is in a position to considerably improve the odds in our favor. That is the magic of the candidate himself crying foul.

We might even win the fight for our democracy without him. I have a lot of faith in us--in the people who have experienced a political awakening through all this, and all who have maintained their faith in our country and its principles.

I also have a lot of faith in the American people as a whole. In fact, their repudiation of Bush Inc. in this election is THE most beautiful thing I have seen in my country since the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s, and it was even more remarkable than that in some ways (folks being able to see through the Bush B.S., despite the putrid state of the U.S. news media--back in the '60s we had a Fourth Estate; we no longer do).

All the more tragic, Bush stealing the election. All those rebellious voters--people coming out of the woodwork to vote, people standing in 10 hour lines to vote, people arriving from their hospital beds to vote, elderly people fainting in the long lines, thousands of volunteers doing GOTV, people so determined (I've never seen anything like it, except in other countries, like South Africa, where they were getting to vote for the first time)--all those wonderful Americans, and they didn't get to experience the joy of victory and the satisfaction of having done their duty.

So, I think we can do it alone--that is, without Kerry leading us. But it will take us longer, much longer, and there will be much grief to bear, more death in Iraq, more economic hardship, and who knows what else?

No one can predict what will happen, even if Kerry takes the lead. But whether we are able to oust Bush soon, or not, the greatest thing will be having all Kerry voters--the majority!--with us. They will be so happy!

They all know something is wrong. The feeling is palpable. Frankly, if Kerry stands up and fights, I think the whole country is going to burst into tears--and the dark cloud will start to lift.
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zapped 1 Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:17 AM
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392. un-conceed- yes
That would light up the MSM in a huge way. All of the pundits would be arguing on Cable and the Sunday morning shows,front page news. Americans become involved again, even more than they were before the election. The momentum going into Jan 6 would be enormous, especially if he has what we are all hoping he has-a major smoking gun. (I am still thinking it's Triad)
Thank you William!!! Thank you DUers!!
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:37 AM
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394.  a WONDERFUL thought just occurred to me
Can you imagine the response of the editors of TIME
magazine, if and when Kerry upturns the election
and becomes our NEXT president. Oh God, I would
fall on the floor in hysterics for a good hour.
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roenyc Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:41 AM
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395. The Real Man Of the YEAR!!
um, the other issue should have read The Idiot of the Year. Its a new thing they are doing. everyone year the man/woman who does the most damage to the world will get that honor.

i am afraid that honor will be given to the entire bush administration for at least the next 10 years. they may have to do two a year. it will go quicker.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:51 AM
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398. "if Kerry stands up and fights,"-- --perhaps, perhaps
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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:49 AM
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396. Is it morning yet? Is it tomorrow yet?
I am feeling the fire again, haven't felt this good in days..news yet? Anywhere? :bounce: :bounce: O8)
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roenyc Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:51 AM
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399. Its morning all over America!
good morning America. now lets get democracy back..:headbang: :headbang: :kick:
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 05:50 AM
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397. Kerry would be crazy....
...crazy like a fox if he unconceded tomorrow. The networks are going down for the Christmas break and they won't have enough time to spin him as a sore loser. The American people will have at least 72 hours to digest the information with out the talking whores.

Though i doubt he un-concedes tomorrow. I'm just saying if he did, it may be good strategy.
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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 06:02 AM
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400. I like it, the idea that msm won't know what hit them...
if it is a strategy, it's a darn good one...and that gives us a Kerry Christmas. I still have my Kerry campaign signs up, my silent prayer. I'll be dancing in the streets, and lmao as I watch msm news shows again now to see what fools they will make of themselves over the next days. Ahhh, but wouldn't it be a double bonus if many of them "knew" and were waiting for Kerry signal, (ok I'm dreaming)...
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 06:08 AM
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401. Ok William Pitt I'm awake. Been up since 3:30 a.m. Arizona time
I just heard CNN say there was a bootleg radio broadcast that FCC trying to track down in D.C. Yahooooooooo! Calling for MASSIVE PROTEST D.C. but am awaiting the Kerry reporting for duty report! Pitchfork to the lock and load!
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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 06:17 AM
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404. TV not on here, but puter is..while I'm waiting found this link
Something to do while I'm waiting,
TV not on here, but puter is..link to the pirate radio story lonestarnot just mentioned.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/12/22/...adio/index.html
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 06:33 AM
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407. Page not found! Biatches removed already! What was it?
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WebeBlue Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 06:10 AM
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402. I just made the 400th reply to this thread.
Doesn't that mean something? Waiting for sunrise..not too patiently. It's 3am, west coast, pacific time, so sunrise on the east coast. Okay, it's time..what's the news!?
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roenyc Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 06:22 AM
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405. suns not up yet! lol 6:25 am
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Dem2theMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 06:35 AM
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409. 3:35am on the west coast. Now, the question is,
do I go to bed and get a few hours of sleep? Or just stay up and try to keep my eyes open? lol.
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renaissanceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 06:33 AM
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408. Nothing on the NY Times yet.
Wonder where it will be announced????

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JESUS W. BUSH has arrived! Outspoken political merchandise at www.cafepress.com/liberalissues
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 06:42 AM
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410. any news about this
Ranking Judiciary Democrat blasts voting company over 'cheat sheet' in letter: Posting Thursday AM

http://www.rawstory.com/
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roenyc Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 06:57 AM
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413. This judge was elected on the same ballot as bush
:wtf:

he will not recuse himself. this is not law this is not democracy. this is ridiculous. apparently his own election is in question. this is almost funny. We would laugh about this if it was happening in south America.

perhaps this is why Kerry decides to get involved? or am i not understanding something here?
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:02 AM
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468. triad
The ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee, John Conyers, Jr. (D-Mich.) issued a stinging letter to the president of Triad Election Systems Thursday, remarking that he had "more questions and concerns than ever" after viewing a tape of Triad's visit to the Hocking County Board of Elections Dec. 20.

In a sworn affidavit, Hocking elections official Sherole Eaton wrote that a Triad official may have inappropriately tampered with a tabulation machine and tried to plant unverified information into the recount, encouraging local officials to use a "cheat sheet." RAW STORY acquired the letter late Thursday evening.

http://www.rawstory.com/
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 06:48 AM
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411. Think the King County hand recount has something to do with the expected
news! HURRY THE FUCK UP AND BREAK! I'm putting on another pot of coffee biatches!
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:08 AM
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414. And only seven months too late to matter.
:eyes:
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:10 AM
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415. It morning now here in Texas
Did Santa deliever the news yet??? I feel like a little kid waiting for Christmas.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:11 AM
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417. Nada zippo zilch as yet
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:39 AM
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427. How long have you been up?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 07:24 AM
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424. kick
:kick:
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:07 AM
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431. Weeeeeeeeo! Went to bed early last night here in EST...
And, woke up to this beautiful thread! Oh, It's gonna be a Merry, Kerry Christmas! I can't wait!:pals:
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:11 AM
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432. You are one hour ahead of me.
Anything yet? Huh Huh Huh

I was good this year. I think I am on Santas Good List.
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sepia_steel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:25 AM
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438. Thanks, Will!
My favorite name inthe world.

Staying cautiously optimistic and waiting, waiting, waiting!
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:17 AM
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434. It's 7:17 here in Chicago, looking forward to the good word :-)
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k8conant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:20 AM
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436. 8:20 on the Blue Ridge...
looking for good news.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:23 AM
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437. 6:30 Arizona coffee out again! Make More!
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:39 AM
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446. 7:30 in the midwest...waiting....
:)
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rqstnnlitnmnt Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:56 AM
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449. where in blue ridge?
i'm in charlottesville, va :toast:
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:18 AM
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435. Thanks as always, Will, for the great news. From you I
trust this not to be a baseless rumor. All the best
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mattclearing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:27 AM
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440. Awesome.
Tuned I shall be.

Thanks for the heads-up.
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:29 AM
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441. Good morning....all!!! I guess the news is not out yet?
I had a thought that Kerry breaks out the big $$$
to help the cause. That would be great ,but hoping for more!!;-)
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:33 AM
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443. One last kick before cat knap
:kick:
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:34 AM
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444. I sure hope Will is right, I would feel awful for him if he wasn't.
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valis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:31 AM
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482. Yeah, me too.... It would hurt credibility, wouldn't it?
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valis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 08:59 AM
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451. 9AM East. Still waiting for Godot.
:D
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:05 AM
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453. Hmmm...night shift worker here..hope it breaks before I go to zzzzz n/t
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zann725 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:20 PM
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501. LOL!
n/t
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anti-fundie Donating Member (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:24 AM
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457. Kerry needs to hang it up
New blood is required to defeat shrub and his hagel/rice/mccain ilk.
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ChicanoPwr Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:35 AM
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458. He did write a good piece for today
but it was not on election fraud. It is about the war in Iraq.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/122304A.shtml
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:40 AM
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460. On my way to work in Branson
I will have a smile of anticipation on my face all day.

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CementDude Donating Member (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:41 AM
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461. If Kerry/Edwards had scheduled a PRESS CONFERENCE..
I'd be excited. Short of that, I didn't lose much sleep over this last night. If this ends up being more "love letters to Blackwell" or a motion in court.. or basically just another gesture to keep us "radicals" appeased.. then *yawn*.
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corky44 Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:47 AM
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463. I just got religion
and it's not pretty
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valis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 09:59 AM
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466. 10 AM and all is well in MA.
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:01 AM
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467. 8:00 a.m. in Denver...heading to work now...
...after my hour and a half drive in the snow I hope to find good news.
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Kota Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:05 AM
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469. You just made my day Will!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:11 AM
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470. after sleeping on it
and thinking a lot last night, i realized, this has to be a pretty big move or i don't think he would have said 'getting into the game'. Kerry has already sent 'letters' that have had no effect (not that anyone has had an effect on Blackwell or election officials). I don't know what it could possible be, but to 'get into the game' i would assume he's either joining the contest or somehow getting into the recount and demanding full hand recount - except i don't know if there is anything legally he can do about that now.

all i know is, it's gotta be bigger than a 'letter'.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:13 AM
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471. Okay, I'm going to fess up to some ignorance.
While I try to give this place as much of my attention as I can spare there are a few obvious things that slide by me. To what or whom exactly are people referring when they mention the "Triad." I have my own thoughts on that but I'm not sure they are consistent with usage here. Thanks!
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:17 AM
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473. Triad GSI - Manufacturer of a large percentage of the voting systems in OH
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:17 AM
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474. Thanks!
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:20 AM
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Sure, and here's an article that describes how things stirred up last week
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TexasChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:23 AM
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478. They are the makers of the voter tabulation software for 41 counties in
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Blue Christmas Donating Member (92 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:16 AM
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472. If Kerry "Unconcedes"...
would that mean I'd have to change my username to "Kerry Christmas"? Were that the case, I would happily comply!
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Godspeed_4usDems Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:18 AM
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475. Please God keep JFK safe....
Hoping and saying a prayer for JFK. Forge ahead and stay safe!!!!
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sportndandy Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:19 AM
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476. Everyone else replied so I am too!
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gordianot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:20 AM
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477. Bless you William Pitt!
Just the thought that help is on the way.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:25 AM
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480. Do tell...
:D
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burned Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 10:48 AM
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484. My wish
That Kerry and a bunch of other Dems would call out Bush on Iraq.
Nothing but 100% truth, no spin, no politics.
Today.

Then we take Ohio.

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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 11:01 AM
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486. My wish: Kerry had done that a couple of months ago.
LBN: No news.

No matter what happens, it is now too late to change the outcome of the election.

The campaign was blown, and I don't give a damn what Kerry does for the rest of his political career.

Perhaps he can redeem himself in his retirement years by doing good works like Jimmy Carter has been doing.
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valis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 11:09 AM
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487. Frankly, I'm shocked Will, who seems politically savy,
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 11:10 AM by valis
Would put his reputation on the line like this... For this kind of stuff, it seems that raising expectations is the WRONG thing to do... Especially when the actual thing is most likely minor...
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 11:40 AM
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491. Ugh
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 11:53 AM by lojasmo
DELETED FOR SNARKY CONTENT.
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melissinha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 11:22 AM
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489. Thanks for hope... Lyrics to Somethings Coming
here's a little treat its the lyrics to "Somethings Coming" from West Side Story:

Could be!
Who knows?
There's something due any day;
I will know right away,
Soon as it shows.
It may come cannonballing down through the sky,
Gleam in its eye,
Bright as a rose!

Who knows?
It's only just out of reach,
Down the block, on a beach,
Under a tree.
I got a feeling there's a miracle due,
Gonna come true,
Coming to me!

Could it be? Yes, it could.
Something's coming, something good,
If I can wait!
Something's coming, I don't know what it is,
But it is
Gonna be great!

With a click, with a shock,
Phone'll jingle, door'll knock,
Open the latch!
Something's coming, don't know when, but it's soon;
Catch the moon,
One-handed catch!

Around the corner,
Or whistling down the river,
Come on, deliver
To me!
Will it be? Yes, it will.
Maybe just by holding still,
It'll be there!

Come on, something, come on in, don't be shy,
Meet a guy,
Pull up a chair!
The air is humming,
And something great is coming!
Who knows?
It's only just out of reach,
Down the block, on a beach,
Maybe tonight . . .
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rqstnnlitnmnt Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 11:38 AM
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490. kick
maybe that will get things moving


:kick:
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 11:45 AM
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492. (rubbing sleep from eyes) What's going on?!!!!!!!
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 11:54 AM
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494. very funny debbiedee
come onwill it is 11:55am eastern. Ready for some action.

we wiating impatiently on three threads.:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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keepthemhonest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 11:55 AM
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495. pssst go to this thread now
Edited on Thu Dec-23-04 11:55 AM by keepthemhonest
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righteous1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-04 12:07 PM
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498. That's the BIG News??
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BUSHOUT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:38 AM
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508. So Mr. Pitt, what happened?
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Mr.Green93 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 08:06 AM
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511. FREE BEER
tomorrow.
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grapette Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 09:08 AM
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512. go for it
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