Warren County Ohio Anomalies.

[harmonyguy]

I just completed a comparison of the totals published by Warren County on Nov 3rd and the final totals they dated Nov 15th.

As one would expect, every precinct increased the total number of ballots cast, however in looking at the top-of-ticket races, 16 precincts, in some races, showed more additional votes than there were additional ballots cast, and one precinct even showed a vote disappearing. As with a lot of findings, we're not talking about big numbers here, but it CERTAINLY DOES call into question the accuracy of the systems used in Warren County, or at the very least it calls into question the programming that supposedly rejects overvotes.

Races included in this quick analysis were: Pres, Senate, 2nd & 3rd Congressional Districts, and State Rep 67th.

Precincts showing these anomalies are:
FRA C M AAA
FRA C NEA AAB
FRA C NWB AAF
MAS C EA AAU
CLC T WB ABQ
MAINEVILLE ADE
TC T NE ADY
WAY V W AER **
DEF T SEB ABY
SPG C NWB AEZ
WAY T W AEP
HAM T WB ADK ##
DEF T SMC ACC **
SPG C NE AEX
DEF T SWC ACG
MAS C NW AFE
MAS C WC AFS

** additional votes in more than one race
## vote subtracted from previous total

As per my previous analyses, if you feel that this information should be forwarded to anyone in particular, please feel free to do so.
HG

[gulogulo]

1. All you have to do to prove the fraud is

to go and recount the county. You, personally.

After the "canvassing period" ends, the election records - ballots and polling books - become public record. This means that anyone can recount them if they pay for the county workers' time that it takes.

If there is (as there seems to be) a big group of DUers that is convinced that there was fraud, and who are interested in uncovering it regardless of the fact that it won't install Kerry as president - why not collect the money and do those recounts? Ohio, Florida, New Mexico - anywhere you like?

Miami Herald has already done this in 3 counties in Florida. I have seen reports of some people doing it on their own in other counties in Florida. I believe the cost of the recount in those counties was $10/hour for the time that it takes.

"But it will be too late" - too late for what? Too late to have Kerry as president - assuredly. But not too late to prove fraud, and taint Bush's second term - if massive fraud is proven.

I calculated, based on the costs of Florida recounts by people from www.recountflorida.com that the total cost of recount in Ohio that will need to be paid to the BOEs should be around $300,000. Warren county was 100,000 votes - so it should cost about $5,000 to recount. I am sure every DUer who is dead sure that widespread fraud has been perpetrated in Ohio will run, not walk, to donate/volunteer/participate in such a recount.

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[m.standridge]

6. There's plenty elsewhere in OH

but this could be the most easily, most quickly exposed.
That doesn't mean there wasn't fraud or potential fraud or anomalies elsewhere in OH, though.
Or in other parts of the US, of course.
This could be the door opening.
It's a potential fingerprint on the crime scene.

[harmonyguy]

15. Actually, NO. It' isnt just extra ballots but extra VOTES!

If the increase in the number of ballots cast in a particular precinct is 14, would it not be logical to expect that the maximum increase in the number of votes in each race in that precinct would also be 14?

Here are some figures from the first few precincts.

                 New                         New             New
Precinct----   Ballots --Race--   Candidate Votes Candidate Votes
FRA C M AAA       14   Cong 3rd   Mitakides   5   Turner     10
FRA C NEA AAB      8   Cong 3rd   Mitakides   3   Turner      6
FRA C NWB AAF      6   Pres       Bush        4   Kerry       3
MAS C EA AAU       8   Cong 3rd   Mitakides   2   Turner      8
CLC T WB ABQ       6   Cong 3rd   Mitakides   1   Turner      6   
MAINEVILLE ADE     9   Senate     Fingerhut   3   Voinovich   7   

If my logic is flawed, then someone please correct me.

HG

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16. TIA, What say you?

[m.standridge]

4. I mentioned this to someone once, and I think they thought

I was being sarcastic.
It's not that unrealistic for private people to get a recount in one county. It doesn't involve very many people.

I pricked up my ears at this about Warren County, because I believe it's the tip of the iceberg that could do Bush in.

It has to do with the political dynamics of Kerry putting Edwards on the ticket as VP

Bush et al were "ready" for Kerry elsewhere in OH. They'd put enough together, that it was going to be a close win for Bush, from their calculations.

But they'd anticipated that Kerry would run and "all north" ticket.

When Kerry chose Edwards, late summer, it threw them off, because it meant Kerry would do "marginally" better in south Ohio, which si "culturally southern".

Since it happened late in the season, Bush's people had to throw something together, something to offset what ever marginal gains Kerry was pickin up in S. Ohio via Edwards

So...the S. Ohio, as exemplified by Warren County, would have a more "thrown together" quality, more easily exposed.

IF Bush has an "Achilles heel" in Ohio, that seems the most likely place.

And, even in the MSM, it came out that the whole "homeland security" claim was bogus, as you may recall: FBI said they'd issued NO terror alert to election officials in Warren County.

I'm after this. I've got a link opening on the George Bush-Undercurrents Website. I'm after the _Plain Dealer_, specifically, as to their distorted quotes of the Kerry lawyer who was in the building. They've quoted him out of context, as he was COMPLAINING, in their first piece, about having been DELAYED in getting into the building where the counting was going on.
His statement that "both dems and Reps were there" was out of context--he said this was AFTER he and other non-GOP observers were allowed in.

Warren County is a STORY. I can't believe OH media reporters aren't on it. It smells of fraud, even from way down here.

[gulogulo]

7. Go ahead and start the process:

contact the county BOE and find out when the "canvassing period" ends (should be a couple of weeks from now, maybe 3), how to apply for inspection of the ballots and what would be the hourly fee you'd have to pay. As I said, judging by Florida fees, Warren county would cost you $5000 to recount, based on $10/hour fees that Florida charged. Maybe Ohio fees are higher - who knows.

Lots of people claim there was fraud and engage in statistical analysis and various other claims to "prove" it. No one seems to be very enthusiastic about actually going in and recounting themselves.

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8. what process?

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2. Bingo!

[gulogulo]

9. read my post above

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10. I was reading between the lines! n/t

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5. kick!

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11. Harmony guy This is serious stuff, or serious misdirection>

Statisticians PLEASE, doubole check this (on edit: I don't want an opinion on line ,or off, I looked at some of his earlier data) Harmony guys data.

Last night, there was a pack of (KAiyotes) round the farm, They're smart coyote. They know about light, they won't come into it. Never underestimate coyote.

The Coyote do keep to pattern. If you look you can always find them.

k

[harmonyguy]

17. Scrutiny is ALWAYS welcome.

The more eyes on this stuff the better.!!

As for coyotes, I'm not quite sure to what you refer, but my experience is that they just sit around and howl a lot. A lot of noise, especially in packs!

HG ;-)

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18. yes, they were all over the valley! can't underscore it enough.

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12. kick

[berniew1]

13. see RHPs analysis on Warren County also- lots of details

http://northnet.org/minstrel/alpage.htm
Warren and SW Ohio

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14. Merry Christmas Bern! nt/