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Kevin Spidel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 12:03 AM
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Kerry conceded too soon, Jackson asserts
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 12:05 AM
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1. Will you post a snip...
please, kevin? It's reg only
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Kevin Spidel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 12:12 AM
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2. full article here
Edited on Fri Dec-24-04 04:04 PM by elad
sorry about that!


Kerry conceded too soon, Jackson asserts

BY JOHN BEBOW

Chicago Tribune


(KRT) - Claiming Ohio's 2004 election results were more troubling than Florida's four years ago, the Rev. Jesse Jackson on Thursday said Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry called it quits too soon.

"Kerry conceded much too quickly, before the facts were in," Jackson said in a conference call with reporters to discuss an ongoing challenge to Ohio's election results.

-snip-

EDITED BY ADMIN FOR COPYRIGHT REASONS
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 12:23 AM
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3. Well, PROFESSOR
If we were ALLOWED TO GET THE GD EVIDENCE WE COULD PROVE IT!

I wish to hell these people would stop saying this. How can we establish anything unless we hand recount the whole state? IDIOT.
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 12:26 AM
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4. And we could probably do that
if we stil had a candidate.
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barbarag Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:09 AM
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12. Kerry
There is a link on buzzflash - Kerry to file suit tomorrow or mon. was going to do today, but delayed due to snow storm. suit re: Ohio recount. Barb
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 02:36 AM
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14. He is only there to say exactly that--we've heard it from day one.
We've been hearing it in every article of the MSM and we will hear it at every turn from here on out. It's their way of giving the lazy minded their overview of the situation, of dismissing all the foul play as moot.

F*ckers!

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nickdw Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 12:32 AM
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6. where is 41 pg. report?
No sign of it on the rainbow/push.org site, which uses online FMPro databases (??)

"The concerns are detailed in a 41-page petition contesting the election before the Ohio Supreme Court."

I'll search the ohio supreme court site but their turnaround might be a few days or a few weeks..
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nickdw Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 12:36 AM
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7. nada
http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/search/query.asp

no hits for jesse jackson or rainbow push. should I be using other specific words?
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Moderator DU Moderator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 02:44 PM
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19. kevin_pdamerica
Per DU copyright rules
please post only four
paragraphs from the
copyrighted news source.

Thank you.


DU Moderator
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 06:58 PM
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24. A concession speech means nothing in the event
Edited on Fri Dec-24-04 06:59 PM by bush_is_wacko
ELECTION FRAUD is proven and criminally prosecuted! You know, I like Kerry. I would love to see him in the WH, but damn people THIS is not about who resides in the WH at this moment or the next 4 years!

When will people realIze that criminal prosecution and a revamped election system is a far more noble goal than placing someone in the WH! I WANT TO KNOW THE NEXT TIME I GO TO THE POLLS THAT MY BALLOT WILL BE CAST AND COUNTED FOR THE CANDIDATE I VOTED FOR!
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number6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 12:29 AM
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5. yep, too soon
:smoke:
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googly Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 12:52 AM
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8. Agreed Kerry conceded too soon. Now he will be called a super
flip-flopper if he UNconcedes. He is caught between the proverbial rock and a hard place. He is screwed, and so are we.
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 12:55 AM
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9. he doesn't have to unconcede
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 12:56 AM
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10. He conceded too soon
Edited on Fri Dec-24-04 12:57 AM by politicasista
How come? So many people here are growing impatient.
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barbarag Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 01:22 AM
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13. concede
I don't believe there is a legal term as unconcede - conceding has no legal standing. I wonder if enough wrong doing could be found in Ohio, maybe we could possibly get a revote which might be better than recount. Barb
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googly Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 06:28 PM
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20. Right Barb, I did not mean "legally" unconcede, I was referring to
the political spin repugs would put on Kerry changing his mind.
Since Ohio has repug majorities in legislature, SoS, and probably
courts, I do not see a realistic possibility of a revote.

I have said it before and I will say it again, we should have gone
after other states where Bush** has narrower wins, such as Iowa,
New Mexico and such. Our chances there were far far better than Ohio.
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IndyPriest Donating Member (685 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 12:58 AM
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11. I don't think Jackson is condemning Kerry, just
pointing to a fact. And, certainly, keeping the spotlight on the issue! You rock, Jesse!
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 02:41 AM
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15. I wish we had a Jackson, Conyers and Arnbeck available for Florida, NM, &
the rest of the "swing" states!!!

We need powerful teams everywhere that machines defaulted to bush, and where thousands of people were disenfranchised by the repukes!!

:kick::kick:
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 02:56 AM
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16. Eventually it will all come out.
Edited on Fri Dec-24-04 02:58 AM by anamandujano
I'm sure I'm not telling you anything that you don't already know.

Once the team makes the case in Ohio, it will become obvious that the repukes cheated everywhere, because they will not ask for recounts in states that Kerry won. They can't because the fradulent padding for Bush will be exposed there also. I think they were planning on the nationwide popular win and insurmountable state margins to forestall and demoralize ANY thought of a recount.

Hopefully though, lots of states will recount so that it all can be documented for history.




edit to add--thank heaven for the glibs and Jesse Jackson.
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Niche Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 03:36 AM
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17. Didn't Nader get a recount in NH? Blue state...
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 03:59 AM
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18. In 11 precincts only.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 06:35 PM
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21. The New Hampshire recount came out clean...
They did only count 11 precincts, but everything about the recount procedure was above-board and the person who requested and supervised the recount -- DU's own hedda_foil says that it was clean.

Why the huge discrepancy tabulated votes and exit polls? We will have to wait until the exit polls are released.

:kick:
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-25-04 07:09 AM
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25. I should clarify
I meant that I don't think the repukes will attempt to flip any states to Bush because they have most likely padded everywhere. In 2000 the talking heads kept droning on about Bush contesting other close states if Gore took florida and then he would still win.

I think that they won't want recounts anywhere. I'm not sure what to think about New Hampshire.



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nickdw Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 06:36 PM
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22. another source
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-04 06:41 PM
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23. The 41-page document is Arnebeck's law suit
Edited on Fri Dec-24-04 06:42 PM by IndyOp
Look for "Election Fraud Suit of 12/13/04 Re-filed" at
<http://www.caseohio.org/lawsuits.htm>

On Edit: This is a better link for the Second (current) filing:
<http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2004/990>

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