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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:28 PM
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To TruthIsAll and other Mitofsky exit poll aficionados:
Has anyone shown a correlation yet between the Red Shift, and/or actual Bush state victories, comparing e-voting states without voter-verified paper trails (VVPTs) to states that have either paper ballots or VVPTs?

Since there isn't much of a correlation between the Red Shift and machine types, it might be more significant to infer fraud in the states where the actual vote can never be verified (unless you think the perpetrators would hack unverifiable states and verifiable states equally).

If this has already been done and I've missed it, please post a link.

One other point is that the VVPT alone doesn't make the vote verifiable. Laws requiring random audits also have to be on the books, otherwise, the paper trails mean nothing unless the election is close enough for an automatic recount. A perpetrator of fraud might take the chance of hacking a state with a VVPT if the hack puts Bush's victory margin outside that required for an automatic recount. So if there is a correlation, it might have to be done by taking the states' election audit laws into account as well.
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-26-04 05:35 PM
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1. I know you have already seen this. But it's a start.
Edited on Sun Dec-26-04 05:41 PM by TruthIsAll
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:00 PM
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2. kicking this to ask if anyone has a link
Edited on Mon Dec-27-04 11:06 PM by Bill Bored
to a page that shows states grouped by whether or not they have a voter-verified paper audit trail (VVPAT) on their DREs. I know Florida doesn't :thumbsdown: but I guess that goes without saying. ;)

It would also be helpful to know which states that have the VVPAT actually have random audit laws to use them to verify the vote.

If I find it first, I'll post but it would save me some time if someone has this at their fingertips.

BTW, I heard Arnebeck say today that he would subpoena the dillweed (Mitofsky) to find out WTF his polls were trying to say.
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