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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 02:30 AM
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New Mexico, youth vote
What's wrong with this picture? Anybody know what happened to the youth vote in New Mexico? Could this help track down shenanigans in New Mexico? (If already investigated, sorry, I missed it)



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/4/191246/507
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dethl Donating Member (462 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 02:37 AM
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1. Personal experience...
A lot of people I hung out with this last semester in college voted for Bush. The basic reason was "Kerry sucks". I voted absentee for Kerry. I'm rather disappointed that NM went red :(

Seems to me a lot of NM youth are conservative...I dunno why.
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 03:41 AM
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7. That's just what the mass media programs young people to be now!
There's lot's of signs that an alternatively informed counter-culture is now brewing among the "Internet Generation", but it may not have reached everywhere yet....Kansas and New Mexico still have a ways to go before we hit the new groove!:yourock:

I think Dean might have done better than Kerry among young people in the West.

9/11 truth vs. the 9/11 cover-up is also a very powerful issue for young people, even when it's unconscious. 9/11 was an unforgettable early emotional experience for many young people, yet the official story that TV told was largely false. Then 9/11 was used as the propaganda center of an agenda that Sacrificed the future of young people. The truth is out there on the internet if you wanna surf for it...but none of the major Democratic contenders dared to oppose the Republican's propaganda myth and make a clear stand for truth and justice. This created a kind of infinite alienation...fuel for a progressive counter-culture, but none of the Democratic canidates really knew how to tap into that during the 2004 election.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 04:29 PM
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8. only white youth polled possibly
no young hispanics polled
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Dancing_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 02:49 AM
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2. I'm a musician/promoter with Music for America
and I was surprised by that one exit poll result. So were several young New Mexico voters in MFA.

Unfortunately, we don't have all the data about that exit poll. It may be that the number of 18-29 New Mexico voters surveyd was very small.

Some firms involved in equipping and running the New Mexico vote seem to have practiced discriminatory fraud in their placement of voting machines. So we could look to see what kind of machines were used in University precincts.

It would be very interesting to do a detailed survey of New Mexico voters now, and use reported age as one way to break the information down.
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fnottr Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 02:55 AM
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3. yeah, this surprises me too
Edited on Mon Dec-27-04 03:04 AM by fnottr
I know plenty of policitally like minded young people here, and NM went to Bush by one of the slimmest margins overall. This means if the young vote went even slightly more to Kerry, the state should be blue. Who knows? Maybe they oversampled certain regions of the state, as, NM is really a blue state that's been saddled with part of Texas.

EDIT:

Check out Maine too, they flipped from blue to red.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 03:12 AM
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5. This is the youth vote
So, according to the exit poll, New Mexican youth didn't go Kerry, which struck me as odd. I was thinking it was evidence of some kind of registration or machine placement problem. Maine could be too, they have split electors and the one region went Bush. Maybe this youth poll is evidence of some kind of problem there too.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 03:10 AM
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4. What's wrong with Mississippi?
Not that I dislike the blue trend among younger voters, but something's amiss. Isn't Mississippi the state with the highest percentage African-American population? How does it keep electing crackpots like Lott? Is the Dem vote among white voters 0%? Or is it increadible amounts of voter fraud?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 03:19 AM
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6. 61 - 36
Still not enough to outvote 61% white people, especially when 65% of the vote is white and 90% of white women voted for Bush. And we thought the white men were the problem, 81% of white men voted for Bush. That's interesting. 18-29 went for Kerry 63%, according to the CNN poll here. If that was accurate, that's very encouraging.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/MS/P/00/epolls.0.html
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