Good morning, It's MONDAY!! .. WILL, Do you know what time the

[Karenca]

Kerry filing will be?

I'm on pins and needles all over again. :))

[blue neen]

1. I feel the same way.

I can't get any work done because this filing is SO on my mind! :)

[BarbinMD]

2. My first post

(I've been reading here for months though).

I've got so much to do here today. And then last night I saw Mr. Pitt's post and thought, hey, the kids can fend for themselves. ;-)

[Darkhawk32]

3. Welcome but do fend for your kids... LOL n/t

[blue neen]

4. The anticipation is killing me!

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[nashville_brook]

6. welcome! great day for your first post!

[keepthemhonest]

7. welcome

newbie. It sounds like you picked a positive day to join.yipee

[Karenca]

10. Welcome .Barbin .... :)) ................... nt

[ncrainbowgrrl]

12. Welcome to DU!

glad to see a friendly face. :-)

[NMDemDist2]

13. welcome to DU Barb

:hi:

[SueZhope]

19. welcome to DU BarbinMD

and congratulations on your first post!!!
:hi:

[Patsy Stone]

29. Welcome to DU! n/t

[bunny planet]

31. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[dalloway]

36. my kids are playing in the snow...

so I can sneak a few guilty minutes myself to check and see if there is any news. Not YET, but I am waiting.....:crazy:

[SharonRB]

40. Welcome to DU!

[WilliamPitt]

43. The kids are alright

Welcome to DU!

:)

[keepthemhonest]

5. thanks for starting the

we're waiting patiently thread. we'll sit here and wait together.

:bounce: patiently

[Jo March]

8. I'm patient on the outside

But I'm screaming on the inside, "Come on and file already!!!"

[blue neen]

11. I'm going for another cup of coffee.

The caffeine is verrry calming. HA!

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[keepthemhonest]

17. it looks like you have had enough blue neen

:hi: just kidding

[blue neen]

21. I know! If I don't stop this soon,

I'll be doing laps outside in the snow--in my pajamas!

I may have to light up a cigarette--and I don't smoke! :)

[keepthemhonest]

28. wish I was

a smoker on a day like today

Barb, I wish I had dreams about Kerry ,mine were about Bush.YUK

Can't remember the details thank goodness.

[Karenca]

41. i'm going with you........

:donut: :* :donut: :hi:

[Applepie]

9. I have to leave

for work. Have to go shovel all the snow off my car it has been sitting since I came home Wed night.I don't want to go.I am so anxious to hear the good news.

[BarbinMD]

14. Thanks all

(as I throw some cereal over my shoulder to the kids)

I went to bed last night dreaming of John Kerry giving a press conference today, announcing to the world that Shrubya isn't going to steal OUR White House again (then we shared a cigarette... :P).

[Karenca]

15. Is this anything??? : :

Sunday, December 26, 2004

The lawyers for Green presidential candidate David Cobb and Libertarian presidential candidate Michael Badnarik, along with Kerry-Edwards 2004 have added election tampering to a civil suit filed against the state of Ohio over problems with the state's recount, RAW STORY has learned.

The suit, detailed here, alleges that a manufacturer of voting machines, Triad Election Systems, which serves 43 counties in the state, is tampering with the recount. It is unclear exactly what recourse the plaintiffs' seek; the filing adds on to an original suit to have the recount take place before Ohio electors meet, which failed in the courts. Green Party spokesman Blair Bobier said the party hoped to reform the recount process and suggested Ohio should secure or impound voting machines.

RAW STORY has also acquired the affidavit of the programmer mentioned in this suit who alleges that such tampering threatens the integrity of the recount. Click here to read it.

See also: U.S. House Judiciary staffer speaks out on investigation, suit.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:Mr0mki4rqcUJ:rawstory.com/exclusives/kerry_ohio_suit_1215.php+kerry+filed+ohio&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

[NVMojo]

25. thanks for posting, Karenca. Should we be surprised that someone

may have gone in and tampered with the election results? I'll bet it's going on nationwide --- a huge CYA.

If they lied about the election, they are doing their CYAs with Triad...

[MissBrooks]

16. Without sounding pessimistic...

I have my doubts about Will and what he will be able to deliver today.

I hope I'm wrong.

[NVMojo]

22. It's not Will who should be delivering, MissBrooks, it's John Kerry.

[MissBrooks]

50. I agree...

But we haven't heard anything from him a quite a while - except those emails last week.
But, they didn't really say anything!?

He needs to hold a press conference and really get the word out!

[meganmonkey]

23. I hope you're wrong, too

Any post that starts with "Without sounding pessimistic" is undoubtably pessimistic.

[MissBrooks]

51. What have we seen to make us optimistic?

Where's Kerry?
There doesn't seem to be any news.

How long can we wait.

The Inauguration is only 24 days away....

I wonder if he's working on his cabinet.

[meganmonkey]

58. This is what I've seen

I've seen a ton of circumstantial evidence pointing to election fraud. I've seen SOME concrete evidence pointing to election fraud. I have seen 2 diverse 'third' parties join together to get the ball rolling. I have seen a bunch of people stand outside in freezing temperatures and sleet to try to spread the word. I've seen some extremely brave Congresspeople stand up and try to get Congressional hearings on the investigation.
When Will says there's going to be papers filed by Kerry's attorneys in support today, there will likely be papers filed in support.

These are pretty boring legal things, I do not expect fireworks and instant gratification. I am just looking forward to confirmation about the filing and I expect it will come sometime today.

As far as your question (I think it's a question, although there is no question mark) "How long can we wait" - I can 'wait' as long as necessary to make sure democracy is upheld in this country. In fact, I can 'wait' through another 4 years of the asshole in the WH if necessary, so that the election system has time for real fixing.

And I don't like the word 'wait', because it implies that all I can do is sit on my ass and hit 'refresh' and wait for someone else to exercise their citizenship on my behalf. I prefer to get off my ass and do something about it.

I don't know how active you've been in this whole thing, outside of posting on DU, but I know that everytime I go to an event or a rally or a meeting I feel alot better about the future of this country.

[Karenca]

30. Well, that's nothing new

It that seems to be your pattern. x(

[MissBrooks]

52. Sorry....

But, I can't help feeling let down.

[Karenca]

59. Sorry too

for posting that.
I think we all feel that way alot of the time.
But I believe we have to be optimistic, cause that's the only way we will keep our determination and courage to go on.

[WilliamPitt]

37. That's original

[MissBrooks]

53. Any word yet?

[WilliamPitt]

55. .

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=198251&mesg_id=198251

[SueZhope]

44. Will has been very kind

to share with us what he learns and what
he is able to share as a journalist....this is not about Will ,
he's been a sweet heart.We are blessed to have him here at DU ;)

[MissBrooks]

54. I wish he could share more

[Stand and Fight]

18. Yeah, tell me about it...

I'm going to need a new F5 key over here! Refresh, refresh, refresh. The damn suspense is mind numbing to say the lease!

[goclark]

20. Are the courts open or is the weather a problem still?

[mod mom]

27. weather is not a problem in Ohio

[keepthemhonest]

24. now that you started this thread we'll be hearing from Will

anytime now. It's Murphy's law. Glad you did it.


I can't wait,can't wait.

Please be big news,please be big news.

[Last Lemming]

34. Murphy's Law

Not sure I'd won't to evoke that law in this case . .

[KaryninMiami]

26. Pins and needles are right-- the suspense is killing me!

I too am trying to focus on work (I work from home) but keep checking in here for news. As soon as anyone knows anything- please post it here as we are all holding our breaths now in anticipation.

Thanks and happy holidays everyone!

[Clark2008]

33. Pins and Needles here, too

I'm off work today - will return tomorrow - and would very much like to be able to read and see all that will transpire with Kerry's joining the suit (and he'd better!)

My boss is gone this week, so I'll be running the department until he returns; therefore, I won't have much time to blog during the day.

I hope this comes out today! /fingers crossed

[keepthemhonest]

32. somebody just started

a gosh darn post with Will's name in it and I thought it was from him.They got me, I thought it was the big news.

[Karenca]

39. ME TOOOO!!!!!!!!! ..... nt

[WilliamPitt]

35. Nothing yet

[keepthemhonest]

38. thanks n/t

[dalloway]

45. good morning , Will!

I'm eagerly waiting for the news. Guess that makes me a lady-in-waiting.

:loveya:

[Quakerfriend]

46. Top of the morning to ya, Will!

Can you set us up with one of your "within the hour" threads today?:shrug:

[WebeBlue]

42. 8AM west coast...means it's 11AM East Coast..Monday..Something Yet?

I see there is no word yet, well okay then, another day of hope while I scour the net and teevee news looking for a tidbit. While that's not new..lol..been doing it now for weeks and weeks, I've still got my child-like Christmas anticipation going ... Has Kerry (Santa) arrived yet with my gift, it's morning and I've been waiting all night, please don't tell me he didn't come yet.

[Karenca]

48. Will just posted that as soon as he hears something he will

let us know.

I'm very excited!! :)) :)) :)) :))

[WebeBlue]

49. Hurry this up, I live in county known for it's Tsunami warning signs

along the highways, and with the planet shaking all over, and me in WA where an extension of the Calif faultline runs, Mt St Helens bubbling away and the almost ever imminent threat the Pacific will tsunami and wipe out our little village here, John Kerry please act soon while I'm still here to hear about it.

Okay, can you tell I'm a tad bit nervous about Mother Nature's loud reactions of late?

[PennyK]

47. Editorial in today's New York Times!!!!!!

MAKING VOTES COUNT
Setting Standards for Fair Elections
Published: December 27, 2004
The much-delayed work of setting federal standards for electronic voting machines is speeding up, and there is reason for concern. Voting machine companies and their supporters have been given a large say in the process, while advocates for voters, including those who insist on the use of voter-verified paper receipts, have been pushed to the margins. Election officials and machine makers may be betting that after the presidential election, ordinary Americans have lost interest in the mechanics of the ballot. But Americans do care, and it is unlikely that they will be satisfied by a process in which special interests dominate, or by a result that does not ensure vote totals that can be trusted.

The No. 1 goal of the new standards should be ensuring that the machines will not, by accident or design, produce false vote totals. It is increasingly clear that voters want electronic, A.T.M.-type voting machines that produce verifiable paper records, or other systems like optical scan machines, where votes are cast on paper as a check on the reliability of machines. California, Ohio and other states require paper trails by law, and New York appears poised to join them.

The Election Assistance Commission, a federal body set up after the 2000 election mess, has created a group called the Technical Guidelines Development Committee to propose federal electronic voting standards to Congress this spring. This committee includes outspoken supporters of electronic voting without paper trails, including Britain Williams, a retired Kennesaw State University professor who has worked closely with Georgia on its controversial adoption of Diebold voting machines. But disappointingly, the commission did not include any of the many respected computer scientists - such as Prof. Aviel Rubin of Johns Hopkins, Prof. David Dill of Stanford or Dr. Rebecca Mercuri - who have been warning about the unreliability of electronic voting in its current form.

The election commission is expected to rely heavily on standards being developed by a nonprofit association of engineers, computer scientists and other professionals with the unfortunate acronym of I.E.E.E., which develops technical standards for such things as wireless communications. But the voting machine industry plays a disconcertingly large role in this organization. The chairman of the working group preparing the standards for voting machines is a top executive of Election Systems and Software, a large and controversial voting machine maker. The head of the committee that oversees the working group has a seat on the election commission's voting machines standards committee. He is a consultant who has been hired in the past by companies in the elections field. Because of the insular nature of the engineering panel's meetings, ordinary voters - who have an important stake - have had little chance to participate. Over the objections of some members of the working group, the current draft of the election-machine standards merely makes voter-verified paper trails optional. The draft's scope is also too narrow: it fails to address many ways in which vote totals could be rigged.

The Election Assistance Commission has a chance to lead the nation to a new generation of technology that voters can trust. But if it fails, there are other routes. California has developed its own state standards for machines with paper trails, and other states could do likewise. And some of the nation's leading election reform advocates, election officials and voting machine makers are forming a new group, called Voting System Performance Rating, that hopes to develop standards in a more inclusive way. Whoever sets the standards, the process and the result need to give voters complete confidence that their votes will be accurately counted.

[Eloriel]

57. Link please

Welcome to DU, but we need the link (and usually, you limit the amount of text copied -- you cannot copy the whole thing, that's a copyright infringement).

[CraZdem4life]

56. wait!

gosh...i wake up from my college winter break today and i get this?! lets twiddle our thumbs..somethings bound to happen today.