NOW I SOUND SCHIZO, BUT DO NOT GIVE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[New Earth]

after losing my cool and flipping the hell out like never before, i have a feeling this might have been to keep the media out of it longer. it sounds like they might be trying to confuse the Republicans Bush/Cheney camp. to keep this running smoothly until they have inspected the machines and ballots.

REGARDLESS, WE CAN NOT GIVE UP. KEEP FIGHTING THE FRAUD, KEEP THINKING ABOUT JAN. 6TH. we have come to far to
O let a 'legal' statement stop us now. DO NOT RETREAT.

this is my calm side. yes, i am schizo :shrug:

[genieroze]

1. That's what I said, they are up to something, I hope. eom

[GetTheRightVote]

2. I agree Faye, never give up, it is & always has been our fight

to win or lose. WE will still march and make them take back this election fraud. Washington will be our battle ground and we will take her over and stake our claim to a fair and free election system where every woman and man can cast a vote which will be counted correctly.

:mad:

[knowbody0]

3. hey faye

i like you second post much better. this administration is the most vile, capable of heinous deeds, and more powerful than we can know. our comprehension is minute. we can only hope.
peace out faye

[sepia_steel]

4. I feel betrayed.

Oh well, new inspirations. I'll just fight alongside someone else. :)

This is not over.

[GetTheRightVote]

5. Yes, sepia_steel, we will fight with you.

:mad:

[mousie]

23. betrayed, yes...

that is the feeling. I thought today was the big day for something to really start turning around, for the stolen election to start really coming out! I can't understand this... I feel quite discouraged now, to hear those words from Kerry's side, that there was no fraud, that the election is over?!!

[KittyWampus]

6. Faye, It Was The COVERUP That Did In Nixon. Kerry's Team Will NEVER

be able to prove fraud... without looking into machines and doing a hell of a lot of discovery.

And a great deal of the info they'd need will be covered up destroyed, altered and lost.

It is most likely that we'll end up catching malfeasance due to COVERUPS.

[johnaries]

14. That's right - the cover-up is where they always get caught!

Blackwell has already screwed up several times in trying to cover his butt.
Fraud can't be proven until the evidence is secured.
Kerry always has been a gentleman. " Now, I'm not ACCUSING anyone of PURPOSEFULLY and KNOWINGLY doing anything wrong here, but...."

[LittleClarkie]

49. And don't forget the third rate burglary in Dayton over the summer

Who did that I wonder. Will we ever know? Will it fit in to the investigation and be part of what takes them down. Inquiring minds want to know.

I'm in this for the long haul, even after Jan 20th!

[genieroze]

7. We should write to KO

Ask him, do you really think we are giving up a-hole?!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TexasChick]

8. LOL! Don't worry, I think a lot of us are schizos here. After reading

it again, I truly think this is a psyOps game. It has to be. Look at Katherine Blackwell trying to make it to where he can plead the 5th after the lawsuit by Kerry campaign was filed today. I do believe they wouldn't have filed the lawsuit today if they didn't have something.

Whew! I guess this is why we must all help each other through this emotional rollercoaster. LOL! :hugs:

[buzzard]

9. Faye that is what I hope as well, my family thinks I am obsessed with the

election results. I just think * and his ilk are the most morally bankrupt and corrupt bunch I have ever seen in the Whorehouse and I can't wait to see them taken down.

[buzzard]

10. oops meant Whitehouse

[rox63]

12. Same thing since * moved in n/t

[rox63]

11. There is definitely more to this

If Kerry did anything right now that convinced Bush he was in danger of being kicked out of office, the evidence would be destroyed before they had a chance to examine it. Then there would be no proof left at all. I think Kerry is playing this for keeps, to bring down these people who would destroy our democracy. This isn't just about him becoming president anymore. It's bigger than that.

[bardgal]

34. I agree x INFINITY!

This is HUGE - which will make Kerry go down in history as a HERO.

[ginnyinWI]

52. I agree with you on that

John Kerry has always been more about helping America than helping himself.

[seito]

13. The positives I saw

A week or so ago, Fineman was on Countdown. Do you recall what he said about the Jan 6th challenge..."Aint gonna happen" he was so snide.

He changed his tune a bit today.

This is all about what K/E campaign is doing and not, at this time, about what they are saying.

This is all about what WE are doing to take control of our Democracy back.

The evidence will speak for itself, if we are able to secure it.

[Patsy Stone]

16. He

was also "twiching" a little. Hope he feels OK and that it was justbecause he had to speak those words... :)

[seito]

25. lol

[Blue_In_AK]

40. Ah, yes, Patsy

I noticed that twitching, too. Definitely twitching more than the last time I saw him on KO.

[Patsy Stone]

15. Nice to have you back! :) Cheers! n/t

[bleever]

17. Trust your calm side, Faye.

Now is absolutely NOT the time for K/E to be turning on the lights and sirens. Patience, and remember:

Softly softly catchee monkey.



Shhhh...

[Patsy Stone]

29. ROFLMAO! You so rock! :)

[TexasChick]

31. Oh, my. Nice pick of George W. Bush you got there. Where did you

get it? LOL!

[bunny planet]

37. LMAO

This monkey is way too cute to be His Fraudulency.
Thanks for the smile though.

[New Earth]

38. lol

that monkey is so cute!!!!

[KaliTracy]

18. it's ok Faye.. you aren't schizo, the government we are

fighting is not normal -- so, it would stand to reason that the Kerry camp has to do things a little differently.

***
for all who feel they are on a downward spiral...
breathe deep... hold... and on on exhale, say "The fight is to preserve democracy...." do this 5-6 times whenever things look out of control.... might not fix the problems at hand, but will make you feel a bit better *gentle smile*

[Firespirit]

19. Faye... this is not the lawyer who filed today!!

Sorry to c+p my own post, but here it is from your other thread:

-----------------------

The remarks are Hoffheimer's, the first lawyer. The motion was filed by McTigue, the new lawyer. It isn't the same person.

And it doesn't jibe with Will Pitt's first TO article, apparently gleaned from insider info:

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/122404Y.shtml

His previous stance on the matter was based simply on his desire to defend the right to have a recount in the first place. The evidence of election tampering in Ohio, specifically surrounding Triad, has motivated him to actively join the fight. The Democratic Party is also quietly putting financial resources into the Ohio recount effort.

Not to mention:

Perhaps the most significant aspect of all this, from the activist point of view, has been the effectiveness of the telephone calls and letters to Kerry. The activist push to get him involved had a significant effect on his decision to enter this effort.

I trust Will's reporting and sources. But I will eat these words if Kerry himself backs up Hoffheimer's statements over the others.

And as for today's blog... not going there. Not worth any more words. And I hate to write that about KO, but there you go.


-------------------------

I don't watch the news anymore... not even KO. I know who I trust. And after today's blog, he's off my list for a time. I do not believe it is in Kerry's character to take advantage of "the 20 percent," yet that's in the blog. There's nothing to gain from it and everything to lose.

Take a deep breath and read Truthout, Raw Story, or find that thread with the pool pic.

KO is not a god. Fineman is the next thing to a demon.

And as far as the legal team is concerned... in addition to it being a different lawyer, one who actually has not been nearly as involved as McTigue has...

DEEDS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORDS.

[lonestarnot]

22. We have to keep in mind that KO is not an independent... He needs his

paycheck too.

[elizm]

30. In my total meltdown I never noticed this!!!

Thanks for pointing out that it is not the same Lawyer! Now that I've calmed down a bit, I remembering noticing the different name. So it's KO and the MSM not in the know...whew! I feel better already!

[davidgmills]

33. My take on KO on another thread

KO is hard to figure out but this dude is very smart. Joking about the situation, almost like Jon Stewart, may be the only way he thinks he can keep up the appearance that the voting fraud issue is not that important. I believe deep down he thinks this is very serious and he is worrying about being censored off the air.

He knows good and well he is the only one keeping this topic in the mainstream media at all. His way of keeping it there is to poke all the holes in the story he can and to keep prodding us. But he is keeping it on the air and I think the way he is doing it is keeping his censors off his back.

All this constant talk about taking a vacation for good and about never having got the memo to shut down the story, I think is just flat clever cover. Start reading between the lines. He is cryptic, but believe me he wants to get us there. That's my 2 cents and I have no insider information.

[Patsy Stone]

42. With strong logic

like this, how did you get on DU? :)
I think you are correct, sir.

You know we do this every now and again just as a sort of a "punching and kicking" thing right? It releases tension.

[txindy]

47. This is also my take on it all

I couldn't agree with you more. Keith needs to present all sides of this issue. He's not speaking for us and only to us. There is a vast audience with very little knowledge about this issue. This is a process and in that process, every angle needs to be looked at or there will be a lot of people, led by MSNBC mgt., demanding the lop-sided story be dropped. I'd rather that not happen, myself, so comprehensive coverage suits me just fine.

I'm also pleased that the MSM's attention has been led away from the K/E camp by the lawyer's statement. Who needs the undeniably brutal attacks and biased coverage that would follow? Certainly not K/E. Not until the investigation is over.

As far as I'm concerned, this has been a good day. No doubt about it.

[bunny planet]

39. Ah yes the pool pic!!!!!!!

Feeling much better now.

[lonestarnot]

20. Now your chiming the right tune!

:pals::grouphug: :yourock: :headbang:

[Imagevision]

21. Regardless...January 6th will paint a better picture-either way!

[Chimpanzee]

24. I've been steadfast with this since November 3rd, but I'm

finding it harder and harder to hang on when the Kerry campaign acts this way. Why should the judge think he needs to rule in Kerry's favor when they make a statement like that? Only a week or 2 left so I'll continue to hang in there, but I have to tell you it feels like George Foreman just gave me a punch to the gut. :hurts:

[mousie]

28. likewise, I feel the same! n/t

[elizm]

26. LOL...I must be schizo too...

Now I am thinking it is SO outrageous that there has to be more to it....Or am I totally nuts now????:eyes:

[bush_is_wacko]

27. Faye

I get the impression KO has always been out to make us all appear schizo! I'm really not sure why so many people here like him. There has always been an undertone of barely controlled disgust for those KO does not feel are in his caliber. I find DU far more enlightening than KO! I also get the impression that K/E has decided to take this underground. I'm a little concerned that either the evidence isn't enough, or it is, but releasing it is dangerous somehow. I have always thought they know something we don't know. The OBL pattern is now clear. Every time it looks as if we are turning the tables he releases another damn tape! Maybe things are not just what we have all been speculating. Maybe there is a concerted effort out there to protect us from something. Let's give it a couple of days. Maybe taking a break is a good idea. I'm taking the kids to the mall tomorrow and helping my brother paint his new house on Wednesday. Maybe a couple days off will give me a new perspective. I'll "check-in" a few times. I hope you feel better.

[lavenderdiva]

32. I'm glad I'm not the only that noticed this about KO

nt

[johnaries]

48. Oh, Good God! KO wants to make us appear schizo? He's a REPORTER

for Gawdz sake. He's not SUPPOSED to be on ANYBODY'S "side". That's what we keep bitchin' about FOX, remember? He shows the hand he's dealt, and if someone notices that the Jack showing is not the same Jack we saw before, well, maybe it's up to US to point it out.
We just have to make sure we have our act together. He wouldn't have given us this much if we hadn't. He's a REPORTER!

[bush_is_wacko]

51. Yes, he is a reporter and that is my point!

He is on MSM's payroll and, just like the rest, his "opinion's" ALWAYS end up degrading the "real" story. Did anyone else notice his statement that he's been witholding this information (the statement from the Kerry lawyer) for a while? Even his remark regarding being a "disgruntled" employee himself and still being thrown a party smacks of * Co. style rhetoric. My point is, he really isn't un-biased and, from what I've read, he never has been. I just don't want to see DUers losing it over the things HE reports. I keep hearing that he checks his facts etc., etc. He doesn't check his "opinions" however and DUer's need to keep that in mind.

[bunny planet]

35. Faye have you seen Will Pitt's thread about this. (Sorry I don't know how

to post a link to it yet, computer spaz that I am). He says that this lawyer quoted on KO is not the same one who filed the papers today. Go check it out in 2004 Election Results

Keep the Faith, Faye.

[New Earth]

36. yes i have

and i saw Firespirt's. feeling much better now :)

thank you!

[Cookie wookie]

41. The KO segment was an insult to everyone who is

fighting for a fair vote count in Ohio and for democracy in America. And so was Hoffheimer's statement. Period. Low and destructive blows. O first hits with the Hoffheimer statement calling those who have seen (and found) abundant evidence of fraud and voter disenfranchisement, enough to throw the election in Ohio and therefore the country, "conspiracy theorists."

[sepia_steel]

43. What really needs to happen

is Keith needs to get rid of that son-of-a-bitch NoSpineman. ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH he is disgusting!!!

[sepia_steel]

44. PS you ARE a schizo Faye

but that's why I love ya. *hearts and stuff*

[New Earth]

45. pffft

(j/k) :hug:

[Oversea Visitor]

46. Haha

Thats the spirit :toast:

They on the right track....
Fraud is hard to prove
All evidents so far show irregularities...
Fraud is a crime hence you need a person to nail it to
You need a time and a place and cyberspace is one big place
The also must be profit and lose

Its tough but dont give up

[me b zola]

50. Tonight, I admit, I fell to the schizo sh*t

Don't worry sis', we got your back
This democracy we will take back