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VTGold Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:04 PM
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If Kerry releases a "clear" message.........
......Bush/Cheney/Rove turn on the spin machine.

Without one - they can't.

I don't see how there is anything to gain YET by releasing a clear message to the public.

We are the awake ones - its a hard place to be - but we should take pride in it and not go round and round and up and down on this roller coaster.

Let's save our strength - we're gonna need it.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:05 PM
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1. I believe you may be onto something ....... yes, on the low down for now
:bounce:
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:08 PM
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2. absolutely!
This is not about instant gratification. We have to trust, yes, but we also have to continue on our own forward trajectory.
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pleiku52cab Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:09 PM
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3. If he's gonna release a CLEAR message
He better not use that clown lawyer to do it. Edwards is 'retiring' from the senate so he could possibly speak out a little more.
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NewsGuyOne Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:10 PM
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4. I don't buy it
Kerry's promise always seems to be off in the future. In the election campaign, I kept waiting for him to come alive. People kept saying, ah, but wait until the debates!
So I waited, and he really wasn't very good.
And then they said, oh, but he's a great finisher.
And he finished with a whimper.
Now we're supposed to wait?
I don't think so.

If the democratic party wanted to expose the fraud in Ohio, they'd find a way to do it.

They're just sending out the odd lawyer to appease those of us awake enough to know what's going on.

I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade.

But at the same time, I've yet to see the Democrats take some ownership of this issue.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:16 PM
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5. I think you're way off.
Kerry was great in the debates, MUCH better than shrubbie. And as far as a good finisher? 57 million votes is nothing to sneeze at, and that's not counting the ones that were stolen.
So don't wait. Move on.
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NewsGuyOne Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:21 PM
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6. Better than Bush, of course
Who couldn't beat Bush?
Fact is, Kerry easily won round 1 because Bush was incoherrent.
Round 2 was a bit of draw, IMO, with Kerry slightly winning.
Round 3, Kerry won except for the Cheney lesbian thing, which really stuck out like a sore thumb.

But heading into those debates, we needed a clear victory. And we got it, kind of.
He could have done better.
He could have talked about a real health care plan.

He should have shut up about Canadian drugs and explained why it is that Canada has cheaper drugs (that's the real answer. importing drugs from Canada is a stupid, unsustainable, political move)
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malatesta1137 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:22 PM
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7. will you guys EVER start facing reality?
Why is John Kerry so afraid of the Bush/Rove spin machine?

He should learn from Martin Luther King:

Cowardice asks the question, 'Is it safe?'
Expediency asks the question,'Is it politic?'
Vanity asks the question, "Is it popular?'
But conscience asks the question, 'Is it right?'
And there comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular but because conscience tells one it is right.

John Kerry conceded. After 12 hours. Some of the vote counting was not even finished.

His own personal political future is more valuable to him than anything else.

He's afraid of the media, he's afraid of Bush.

He was the wrong choice. Now 4 more years of global holocaust are upon us. We can't make wrong choices again.
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VTGold Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:41 PM
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9. Let's face facts here - we are reality based after all....
'They' control the media - so why should Kerry even try to use it to his/our advantage at this early stage? Its pointless and probably suicidal.

It would only take one blow for us to lose the potential of the media altogether.

That is the lesson of Dan Rather.

'We' have to have iron-clad stuff - not only for the media - but for the millions of Democrats who don't believe in the fraud yet.

Whether we like it or not - this is a game and 'they' own the game.

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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:32 PM
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8. Exactly.
"I don't see how there is anything to gain YET by releasing a clear message to the public."

They are continuing to play their hand, they are NOT folding or ready to call as of yet however, they HAVE raised by joining the Green's in their suit.

Regardless of which way it plays out they will still have both an entrance and an exit door open.

Think about it,if the TOTAL intent for joining the suit was to placate us, "the 20%" why the hell would their representative verbalize that? It does not make sense, the statements made are thought out and premeditated.
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