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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:26 PM
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For those who expect immediate results on election fraud READ THIS
Here is a timeline of Watergate.

Good things come to those who wait - and investigate and keep the pressure up whilst waiting:

Jan. 20, 1969
Nixon is inaugurated as the 37th President of the United States.

July 23, 1970
Nixon approves a plan for greatly expanding domestic intelligence-gathering by the FBI, CIA and other agencies. He has second thoughts a few days later and rescinds his approval.

June 13, 1971
The New York Times begins publishing the Pentagon Papers -- the Defense Department's secret history of the Vietnam War. The Washington Post will begin publishing the papers later in the week.

Sept. 3, 1971
The White House "plumbers" unit -- named for their orders to plug leaks in the administration -- burglarizes a psychiatrist's office to find files on Daniel Ellsberg, the former defense analyst who leaked the Pentagon Papers.

June 17, 1972
Five men, one of whom says he used to work for the CIA, are arrested at 2:30 a.m. trying to bug the offices of the Democratic National Committee at the Watergate hotel and office complex.

June 19, 1972
A GOP security aide is among the Watergate burglars, The Washington Post reports. Former attorney general John Mitchell, head of the Nixon reelection campaign, denies any link to the operation.

Aug. 1, 1972
A $25,000 cashier's check, apparently earmarked for the Nixon campaign, wound up in the bank account of a Watergate burglar, The Washington Post reports.

Sept. 29, 1972
John Mitchell, while serving as attorney general, controlled a secret Republican fund used to finance widespread intelligence-gathering operations against the Democrats, The Post reports. Post Story

Oct. 10, 1972
FBI agents establish that the Watergate break-in stems from a massive campaign of political spying and sabotage conducted on behalf of the Nixon reelection effort, The Post reports.

Nov. 7, 1973
Nixon is reelected in one of the largest landslides in American political history, taking more than 60 percent of the vote and crushing the Democratic nominee, Sen. George McGovern of South Dakota.

Jan. 30, 1973
Former Nixon aides G. Gordon Liddy and James W. McCord Jr. are convicted of conspiracy, burglary and wiretapping in the Watergate incident. Five other men plead guilty, but mysteries remain.

April 30, 1973
Nixon's top White House staffers, H.R. Haldeman and John Ehrlichman, and Attorney General Richard Kleindienst resign over the scandal. White House counsel John Dean is fired.

May 18, 1973
The Senate Watergate committee begins its nationally televised hearings. Attorney General-designate Elliot Richardson taps former solicitor general Archibald Cox as the Justice Department's special prosecutor for Watergate.

June 3, 1973
John Dean has told Watergate investigators that he discussed the Watergate cover-up with President Nixon at least 35 times, The Post reports.

June 13, 1973
Watergate prosecutors find a memo addressed to John Ehrlichman describing in detail the plans to burglarize the office of Pentagon Papers defendant Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist, The Post reports.

July 13, 1973
Alexander Butterfield, former presidential appointments secretary, reveals in congressional testimony that since 1971 Nixon had recorded all conversations and telephone calls in his offices.

July 18, 1973
Nixon reportedly orders the White House taping system disconnected.

July 23, 1973
Nixon refuses to turn over the presidential tape recordings to the Senate Watergate committee or the special prosecutor.

Oct. 20, 1973
Saturday Night Massacre: Nixon fires Archibald Cox and abolishes the office of the special prosecutor. Attorney General Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William D. Ruckelshaus resign. Pressure for impeachment mounts in Congress.

Nov. 17, 1973
Nixon declares, "I'm not a crook," maintaining his innocence in the Watergate case.

Dec. 7, 1973
The White House can't explain an 18 1/2 -minute gap in one of the subpoenaed tapes. Chief of staff Alexander Haig says one theory is that "some sinister force" erased the segment.

April 30, 1974
The White House releases more than 1,200 pages of edited transcripts of the Nixon tapes to the House Judiciary Committee, but the committee insists that the tapes themselves must be turned over.

July 24, 1974
The Supreme Court rules unanimously that Nixon must turn over the tape recordings of 64 White House conversations, rejecting the president's claims of executive privilege.

July 27, 1974
House Judiciary Committee passes the first of three articles of impeachment, charging obstruction of justice.

Aug. 8, 1974
Richard Nixon becomes the first U.S. president to resign. Vice President Gerald R. Ford assumes the country's highest office. He will later pardon Nixon of all charges related to the Watergate case.


That took nearly four years to uncover. Please don't get discouraged if this election fraud stuff takes longer than a few months. I thought we all agreed we're in this for the long haul.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:29 PM
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1. agreed, this is about free and honest elections in the future
but I weep for Al Gore and John Kerry and my country and the thousands who have died with BushCo in power
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impeachthescoundrel Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:32 PM
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2. How refeshing.
This is what I remember. To the best of my ability.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:39 PM
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5. I wasn't born for part of this
and but a mere tot for most of it.

But, we studied extensively in J-School.

My parents don't remember it taking that long to come out, but it did. The whirlpool was exhausting for those who believed Nixon was a C.R.E.E.P. (pardon the pun), but it came out in the White House wash, eventually.

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indianablue Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:38 PM
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3. You still had a press willing to do real reporting then.
Edited on Mon Dec-27-04 09:38 PM by indianablue
Of course no one in Congress either so don't count on some late miracle.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:42 PM
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6. We are the media now
We already know that most of the media is shit - but with the efforts we are organizing here: boycotts of the MSM, e-mail campaigns, protests, and good old-fashioned word of mouth... the same can be done.
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KaliTracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:38 PM
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4. thank you for this timeline...
and yes... I remember specifically signing up for the "long haul" -- our future depends on it!
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hangloose Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:43 PM
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7. Yes, let's keep up the pressure, this effort is significant and many
in high places have much to lose and can stall the process but truth can and will win out if there are enough of us who fell truth is important to the nation and are willing to work to see truth win out
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:44 PM
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8. I am for the long haul but it would be nice not to have a stolen election
by * and company to live with again.

:grr:
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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 09:48 PM
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9. Agreed, but I don't think the anger was over the time line
so much as the statement from the Kerry lawyer. I don't happen to be much of a KO fan, I think he is just as sensationlistic (don't know if that's even a word) as the rest of MSM. And I do think he loves watching :tinfoilhat: types squirm. I don't understand the DUer loyalty to him. Pitt had to come in here and calm everybody down again. Evidently, the Kerry campaign is not all on the same path at the same time. The lawyer was not the one that signed on to the suit today.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 10:13 PM
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12. I don't find him sensational
in the sense of tabloid journalism.

My loyalty to him is that he reports a straight story. Some nights we like, some nights we don't - but he's just reporting the news and not his spin on it. I miss that type of reporting. All the news that is reported elesewhere seems to have the news organization's CEO's opinion slapped into the text of what should be straight news. Keith doesn't do that.

I don't think he means to make tin foil hat-types squirm - I just think he's telling us to check all the facts before we go off half-cocked. He does - check the facts, I mean.


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bush_is_wacko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:11 PM
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25. Did you read his blog?
He claims he was given a party when he left his last job and considers himself a disgruntled employee. I have seen disgruntled employees led out of buildings packing all their belongings never to return. I have NEVER seen a disgruntled employee given a going away party. That is propaganda. There is a difference from moving on to a place you are more comfortable at and being a "disgruntled employee." His goal in several of his blogs seems to me to be to prove that he is of a higher level than your average blogger and above the fray. I also think he holds no loyalty to anyone but the man that signs his paycheck. I'm no trying to discredit the man. You have to do what you have to do to keep the money coming in, but he didn't have to do what he did in that blog. And BTW, the lawyer he speaks of did no necessarily have the approval of Kerry.
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Fescue4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 10:02 PM
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10. SO your're saying its going to take 4 years
Before he leaves office.

And that is different from the current situation how?
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 10:10 PM
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11. I'm saying that the goal is to prove the fix
is in - not to necessarily oust Shrub.

However, if, during the course of a many-years-long investigation it either puts a cloud over Shrub's "presidency," causes landslide victories for Dems in 2006 or results in Shurb's impeachment, fine.

But, I just want the machines with paper ballots and a checks and balance system before 2006.

I have no idea how long this will take, but I've never expected it to take only a month or two.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 10:21 PM
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13. Thank you
Edited on Mon Dec-27-04 10:23 PM by Blue_In_AK
Thank you so much for posting that. I remember that time so well -- I was in my 20s, a counterculture girl. Hated Nixon and all his fascist, snooping crap with a passion. It was absolutely exhilarating to watch him implode. I just feel in my bones that the same fate awaits Mr. Bush. As they say, pride goeth before a fall -- and I believe he's in for a BIG one.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 10:22 PM
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14. Kerry didn't back away from Iran Contra even though he had little
support, in the beginning, from others. He plugged away, dug deep and uncovered all that mess. He is stealth and relentless when he smells something is just not right. It might take time, but don't count him out either.
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whometense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 10:24 PM
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15. Thank you.
And you're absolutely right. He is not a quitter. Adversity seems to just rev him up. ;-)
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 10:31 PM
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16. With this crew in office however, we don't have the luxury of time.
They are trully dangerous and they do more damage everyday they are in office. Nixon was Bambi compared to these guys.

I am in it for the long haul. It's just very frightening. Look at what they've done in just the few short weeks since the election, and the second coronation hasn't even happened yet.:scared:
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 10:41 PM
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17. I know I am going to get flamed for this
Edited on Mon Dec-27-04 10:42 PM by lenidog
because it is a downer question but can anyone ever name one instance in American political history where an election decision was reversed because fraud or tampering was proven.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 10:44 PM
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18. You mean a Presidential election, right?
I'm assuming that's what you're asking.

The answer is "No," to the best of my knowledge. That's why I find the whole current scenario exciting, because it's all new. There is no precedent for this.

I may be wrong, though. I await corrections.
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 10:47 PM
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21. I know the answer is no
for the president. But even a even a election for senator, representative, governor or mayor of a major city. I
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 10:47 PM
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22. Coop de tat '39? attempted America
Edited on Mon Dec-27-04 10:48 PM by lonestarnot
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 10:45 PM
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19. I would hope you wouldn't get flamed for asking that question
It's a legitimate question.

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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 10:49 PM
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23. Well I have noticed
that some people are touchy about this subject that anything that can be construed as a downer or negative raises their hackles.
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MarkusQ Donating Member (516 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 11:05 PM
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24. You don't reverse the election.
You jail the crooks. Anyone who thinks this is about "reversing the election" is nuts, and is playing into the same trap that worked so well in 2000--the idea that a crime "doesn't count" after it can no longer be "reversed." Would you believe a murderer that told you that they were untouchable once their stabbing victim actually died of the wounds? Or a embezzler that told you there was no point pursuing them once they'd spent all the loot?

This is not, and has never been, about "reversing" the election. It's about saving democracy.

--MarkusQ
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-27-04 10:46 PM
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20. WWWWWWOOOOOHOOOO.....Thanks and Thank you and thanks again
Edited on Mon Dec-27-04 10:49 PM by lonestarnot
clark2008 thanks for the timeline...but clark needs to take charisma implossion lessons from Howard. Much more exciting!
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