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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:07 PM
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Beyond Will's allegory: The one and only true 'winner' on '6 Jan 2005' is?
I have no clue what Senator Kerry is thinking or doing today, or has been doing since 2 Nov 2004.

With that disclaimer, I'll offer a few comments on the 'dog catcher' allegory, and then offer my answer to the question -- "who is the one and only true 'winner' that can emerge from '6 Jan 2005'?

I think the candidate for dog catcher, in Will's allegory, might be sophisticated enough to know that if he (or anyone, ever again) is going to be 'elected' that he must do his job before he has any hope of legitimately being chosen for it.

I think the candidate for dog catcher knows that a pack of rabid dogs are on the loose and the town folk are hiding and fretting and if he doesn't catch and incarcerate those dogs the town folk are never going to be able to go to the polling place and vote without fear and cynicism.

I also think the dog catcher knows that distractions and confusion are useful because while one rabid dog runs in one direction another rabid dog is running in another direction rather than having them all focus on one victim. (the dog catcher knows what 'gambit' means)

I think some of the rabid dogs, albeit small ones are indeed running and hiding -- Feeney and Blackwell, for instance. I think a small pack of rabid dogs are howling in WA State, and they may be bringing attention to a 'bone' that one of the bigger rabid dogs might want them to bury.

I think the candidate for dog catcher knows that he's going to need a large, encompassing trap and that he's going to want the most rabid dog of the pack well inside that trap before he slams it shut. (ask yourself who's got the gavel in a certain venue on 6 Jan 2005)

And, he's going to want the whole world watching when that happens (suspect that cspan will have it's biggest viewer day in history; and the reruns; lordie, lordie!!)

Since I do have a clue how compromised the 2004 presidential election process is, I imagine that Senator Kerry and Edwards have vastly more than 'a clue.' I think they both realize that to be 'dog catcher' the way they would want the position means that they would have to know they were fairly elected.

Thus, I suspect that once the rabid dogs are caged (how ironic for those familiar with that rovianism), the 'acting' dog catcher will insist upon a re-vote rather than accept a position, albeit deserved, he knows is disgustingly invalid.

And, please note that my derivation of the allegory (consistent with all the correspondence I've sent to Senator Kerry, and others, by the way) is that NO ONE CAN BE ELECTED 'dog catcher' in the current 2004 national dog catcher election process because:

1. large numbers of citizens were systematically suppressed in their efforts to vote;

2. 30%+ of the voters have no trusted mechanism for verifying that the way the voted is how their vote was counted;

3. all kinds of acts have been committed since 2 Nov 2004 that have further compromised any 'trust' any reasonable person might have in the 'will of the voter.'

Thus, the lesson from my derivation of the allegory is -- catch the rabid dogs -- a la 'acting dog catcher'.

But, the one and only true 'winner' as a result of the challenge that begins on 6 Jan 2005 is YOU and YOUR FELLOW CITIZENS.

Senator Kerry cannot possibly "win"; he cannot assume the office of President of the United States for the very same reasons Bush must be prevented from assuming that office -- We The People have no basis in reality to consider either of them a legitimately elected President for reasons #1-3 listed above, and more.

We have no election.

I speculate that Senator Kerry and Edwards 'get it.' I speculate that they've 'gotten it' since early morning 3 Nov 2004.

But, no matter what they get, what I get and what I'm fighting for is one and only one 'winning' outcome.

REVOTE.REVOTE.REVOTE.REVOTE.REVOTE.REVOTE.REVOTE.REVOTE......

Peace.

"When Will Bush Get It?"
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:17 PM
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1. Excellent post! I like this!
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Proud_Lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:21 PM
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2. I get it!
Couldn't agree with you more. Thank you!
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Lizzie Borden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:29 PM
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3. KICK!
:kick: :kick:
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:43 PM
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4. I only hope the rightfully elected sit in the WH from now on

roof, roof,

:kick:
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:52 PM
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5. If one man can seem so intimidating (Rove)
As I read this post, I realize that it shouldn't take more than a small group of people to also seem intimidating. Aside from the obvious wielding of power, that is. So, if nearly half of the voters combine their voices in this fight for truth, justice, and published reality, then they should seem formidable. Half of the American voters could make this a HUGE HUGE issue. The only problem is whether it seems like it's important enough, to the average voter, to climb out of their little lives for.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:13 PM
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11. At a press conference, probably on 4 Jan 2005....
....when Congressman Waters, Conyers, ?????, Senator(s) ?????, begin explaining to our fellow citizens what happened before, on and after 2 Nov 2004, I suspect that millions of folk who were severely depressed on 3 Nov 2004 and millions of folk who have become overwhelmingly piss'd at Bush since 3 Nov 2004 are going to create quite a loud and persistent demand for truth.

What happens after that is anyone's guess. It's likely not to be pleasant, especially for the Rover, Cheney and, whenever he awakens to the real-world, Bush.

Peace.

"Would you want to be the one to awaken Bush on 7 Jan 2005?"
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Niche Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:04 PM
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6. Support Reps get their revote in WA Gov. race...
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:48 PM
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8. What are you saying? Is this a typo?
Do you want us to support a revote in WA, or did you mean something else?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:52 PM
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9. Please. It is just speculation and as good a theory as any and certainly
more creative than most.I like the idea of the voters "winning" . And if it isn't true, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be!:)
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 02:16 AM
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13. Should have told you 'thank you' for your comments....
....much appreciated.

Peace.

"Its 7 Jan 2005: do you know who your president is?"
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:05 PM
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10. I make things happen; I don't sit and fantasize about them.
Edited on Tue Dec-28-04 07:16 PM by understandinglife
:evilgrin:

Peace.

"When Did Bush Know?"
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 10:32 PM
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12. Oh, and I've been called much worse than "delusional"...
....but, I'm also kinda stuck on this 'responsibility thing.'

In our beloved American franchise of democracy, it's not the other persons responsibility -- it is mine.

It's not Senator Kerry's responsibility or Congressman Conyers or anyone else's, it's mine.

That's what we all must learn from this civics lesson in which those on DU and at BradBlog and Truthout and dKos and.....have been participating. Yes, we've been in class while most of our fellow citizens have been doing other things.

That's ok, but on 6 Jan 2005 (or a day or two before) they are all going to hear the school bell ringing.

And, they will get a hefty dose of what "We the people of the United States of American...." really means. It means that it is entirely each citizen's responsibility to halt, to force an investigation and to force a legitimate re-vote.

If each person does not accept their responsibility for the well-being of the franchise, then by definition, we have forsaken democracy.

We have no election.

I will not allow our franchise to be destroyed.

Each person acts or not. A few days remain before we know if we have what it takes to halt a fraudulent, illegal election process and save our democracy.

We either do it now or warp back to 1775 and start over.

Peace.

"When did Bush Know?"
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