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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:43 PM
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New symbol of fascist America
If we don't stop them on Jan 6th, a good symbol that would have a clear message would be a flag with a swastika where the stars normally go.
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Mistress Quickly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:44 PM
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1. All that'll do is make people
dismiss you. Need something else. They don't see any relation of Bush to Hitler, and think its hyperbole.
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SariesNightly Donating Member (237 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:47 PM
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3. The universal symbol of Abu Ghraib prison tortures..
.. which some say reminds them of klan gear.
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nicho Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:47 PM
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2. do you really want that as America's symbol??
or is that just a reflection of your low opinion of your own country?
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:25 PM
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15. No, i'm sure it's his reflection of
of what has taken over our country. They are fascist, period. It's the love of our country that will make many of us be first in line to stop these bastard once they try to go to far.

Ponder on this for awhile and while you are at it ask these chest beating nitwits why they are still state side when our armed forces are so far behind on new recruits. They owe it to the war in Iraq to step up and enlist. Then again, considering they are as cowardly as the jerk off in office, don't expect that to happen.


The 14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism
Free Inquiry
Spring 2003
5-11-3

Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:
1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Divorce, abortion and homosexuality are suppressed and the state is represented as the ultimate guardian of the family institution.
6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed
to the government's policies or actions.
9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.
11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts and letters is openly attacked.
12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

http://www.rense.com/general37/fascism.htm
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:48 PM
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4. This one seems to the symbol of current fascist America.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:53 PM
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5. The other part of the ribbon should read "Bring Them Home Now!"
And if you marketed it to all the local delis and gas stations, I wonder how well they would sell.... Perhaps a price tag has to be associated these days to get a message out???
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 05:57 PM
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6. Now, hold on. I have that one next to my DU sticker!
I DO support the troops. They are being used and abused by the civilian leadership.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:52 PM
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10. Yes, but for every person like you that means it...
...another 5 people are really meaning "Support our illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq or you are anti-American".

That's the sad truth.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:56 PM
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11. I need one that says,
"Support the troops: Deport the Bush family."
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:01 PM
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7. either
"don't tread on me" (snake image from early US flag) or purple ribbon baring "One Nation Under Fraud."
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:07 PM
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8. I thought they decided on a....
frayed, faded American flag proudly displayed on a gas guzzling SUV.
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:49 PM
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9. American fascist symbols
If you are looking for their symbols, you will find them here:

http://hometown.aol.com/americanfascist/afphome.html

I take comfort in the fact that I can afford my own internaet domain name and those sicko losers can't afford one for their official site!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 06:57 PM
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12. how about a flag w a $ where the stars go.
My husband bought a bunch of hilarous b*#*/c*#*# '04 bumperstickers that looked like the real thing but had great punch lines like "B/C 04 Jobs are for losers anyway" or "Proudly marching toward WW III" and the flag logo had a $ instead of stars. We thought that was great! The stickers went to a good use.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:15 PM
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13. I kind of like this one-
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:17 PM
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14. that is cool
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-28-04 07:31 PM
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16. too cool-how about add a circle and slash
indicating we don't accept their overthrow of our country. Symbols are powerful tools.
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