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Truman01 (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:06 PM Original message |
Analysis of the Arnebeck order. |
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Doctor O (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thanks TC. Makes you wonder what Arnebeck's goals are....n/t |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. Keep in mind he is a former Republican congressional candidate |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:53 PM Response to Reply #1 |
58. There you go again. |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. I have not read the filings but |
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Truman01 (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. that is what I read it to say. |
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read the law first (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
3. Good analysis. It caused me to remember that Moyer's original order |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. So, in non-legalese |
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Doctor O (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. So it leads me to wonder what Arnebeck's motives were if |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Deleted message |
Truman01 (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I don't think this was a mistake |
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read the law first (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. close. A rough translation is..... |
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Terre (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:44 PM Response to Reply #10 |
29. I hate to keep referring to georgia10 |
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read the law first (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. You tell me. Specifically how did Chimp access the illegal software. |
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mordarlar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Especially when piss off the judges by naming one of them in the suits. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:29 PM Response to Reply #33 |
50. I did wonder about that, myself, although I thought |
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Truman01 (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Ok, here we go, |
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georgia10 (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. My list of "who, what, where, and when" |
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read the law first (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:28 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. By way of illustration only and not by way of limitation |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. There is more in the case that I typed in my post below and, nonetheless, |
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Truman01 (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
14. Sort of.... |
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mordarlar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:17 PM Response to Reply #3 |
41. considering the vulnerability... |
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bush_is_wacko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
7. What would be the purpose of Arnbeck |
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Truman01 (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I don't know him.... |
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NVMojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
9. sure, he's got national attention and all he is doing is filing things |
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Doctor O (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:28 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. If the case goes nowhere because he does not have facts and |
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Truman01 (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. I agree with you, can you explain what he is doing???? nt |
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The Judged (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 03:57 AM Response to Reply #9 |
74. He is preserving his right to litigate & waiting for further evidence .. |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. Would this be why Kerry didn't sign on to this case? n/t |
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georgia10 (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
16. Arnebeck is not a shitty lawyer |
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Truman01 (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I don't mean to laugh at you but it isn't an argument when |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
31. I am not familiar with Ohio law, does he get to file a petition asking |
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Truman01 (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. This is just an admin order notifying him that his |
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georgia10 (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
40. I didn't say you said he was a shitty lawyer |
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Truman01 (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:19 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I missunderstood your intent. Thanks for the post.. |
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read the law first (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. I didn't say he didn't read the law either. |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. ok, thanks. sounds like good cred to me! n/t |
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Truman01 (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:37 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. By the way, |
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georgia10 (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
48. Bush graduated from Yale!!!! |
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read the law first (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:32 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. Never did like Yalies. n/t |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:36 PM Response to Reply #52 |
68. Hmm. Where did Kerry graduate from? |
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read the law first (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:19 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. ooooppps. Never did like puke Yalies. |
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pick_a_dilly (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:41 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. if the fix is in . . . |
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Truman01 (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. If the "fix" was it, they would just dismiss and not let him refile. nt |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 04:49 AM Response to Reply #16 |
75. So, if he is such a sharp attorney, is he purposely screwing up? |
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crispini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:36 PM Response to Original message |
18. This is weird. |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
56. Arnebeck's cred was a result of saying what a lot of people want to hear |
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georgia10 (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
22. Just a logical question |
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Doctor O (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:41 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. It is a small thing like following the laws, Arnebeck was told by |
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Truman01 (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:41 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Because it doesn't make any sense for the Judge to do so... |
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El Vengedor (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
53. How will this likely affect January 6? |
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righteous1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:47 PM Response to Reply #26 |
55. True, but don't you think that the Ohio SC is being extra careful |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. A voice of reason in the wilderness. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
60. Some people never placed Arnebeck on a pedestal |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
30. Regarding the Presidential suit (& the Chief Justice Suit) -- |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:49 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. IndyOp, do you have a link |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 09:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I got the 130,656 from the original suit -- |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:07 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Gracias. |
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Truman01 (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. See post 36 |
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IndyOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
38. Legal Eagle Heaven -- Check out the Moritz OSU website: |
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idealista (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
46. is the law keeping up with the universe of cyber-crime? |
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read the law first (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:31 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. You are correct. n/t |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:34 PM Response to Reply #46 |
67. I thought the CJMoyer suit was just an instrument to get Moyer off the |
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Chimpanzee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
54. I just got her - could someone explain what we are all fretting about??? |
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read the law first (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:52 PM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Basically, the Judge in the Moyer OSC challenge has threatened to |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:57 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. Can't believe a change of Judge for cause has not been filed |
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read the law first (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:03 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. That's why they split it into two cases. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:17 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Either way Moyer involved with both isn't he? |
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read the law first (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:25 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Correct. One as a judge and the other as a contestee. n/t |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:26 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Then he should recuse or be challenged |
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LiberalHeart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 11:48 PM Response to Reply #57 |
69. Another hypothetical for you.... |
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read the law first (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 12:27 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. It's hard to know because I don't know what the proof is. |
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LiberalHeart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:27 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. What if there is nothing else? |
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Truman01 (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-29-04 01:03 AM Response to Reply #54 |
72. Who did you get? |
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theboss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
59. As another lawyer who is late to this party... |
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liam97 (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-28-04 10:58 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. The suit is discussed at the freepress site |
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MandateThis (40 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-30-04 02:38 AM Response to Reply #62 |
76. Arnebeck & Kerry have a strategy |
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