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bones_7672 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 12:39 PM
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Wonkette slams Duers
http://www.wonkette.com/politics/campaigning/ohio-recount-so-worth-it-028532.php

"Of course, now we have to deal with "They stole the recount!" form letters and maps showing how the counties that went to Bush were former "slave counties"....

We lost, everybody. L-O-S-T. Just concentrate on your Canadian visa applications; if you screw that up, you can't blame Deibold."
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 12:42 PM
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1. She's become mainstream now. There was an annoying piece about her
Edited on Wed Dec-29-04 12:57 PM by Ojai Person
in last week's Newsweek. Comparing her to Hepburn doing battle with Tracy. And she's writing a novel. Why rock the boat? Now she is one of the "proudly ineffectual," like David Corn.

on edit:
I just sent this "tip" to tips@wonkette.com:

Subject: Ummm...I and 700 others just got an email from NYT saying Ohio is not over

Sorry. You will still have to pay attention to annoying facts, even if just to dismiss them, as one of the newly
"proudly ineffectual," like David Corn.

Just got this last night:
At 03:07 PM 12/13/2004, you wrote:

What is this, a coup by the Bush administration?

Here the ranking Democratic House Judiciary Committee Member holds two hearings at the request of many disenfranchised voters, and no one even cares? What is with you guys?

As a news consumer, I want to see this covered. This is history in the making. You should be reporting it, investigating it, not pretending it is a joke, an outrage, or that it isn't happening.

Thank you very much.

Sincerely,
XXXXXX


Dear XXXXXX,

Over the past month over seven hundred other readers have raised similar concerns requesting more coverage on this issue. You may be interested in the following articles:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/22/politics/22poll.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/15/politics/15ohio.html

I raised reader concerns with Mr. Okrent and a few days ago he asked me to let you know that he does not believe The Times's coverage of the voting in Ohio is over.

The following articles have since appeared:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/29/politics/29ohio.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/24/national/24vote.html

Mr. Okrent wanted me to write you back asking that you please stay tuned.

Sincerely,
Arthur Bovino
Office of the Public Editor
The New York Times

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Ohio-Vote-Challenge.html


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ShinerTX Donating Member (96 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:28 PM
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16. She is kind of hot, though.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:38 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. I saw on election night that she is very pretty....
all the more reason for her to get away with soulless, destructive chatter?

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:56 PM
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29. She is an annoying piece. Reads too much David Corn n/t
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 12:43 PM
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2. That wonkette is a hoot, isn't she!
It's a good thing her site is only one of many with as many varied opinions as possible. Her goal is to become the female version of Drudge and she is looking successful, although why she would want to race Drudge to the bottom is beyond me.
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 12:43 PM
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3. WHATABITCH!
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 12:49 PM
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4. I just had a tussle over in General Discussion about we "vote fraud types"
Some people just don't get why this is imporant, and why we would spend time on this if John Kerry isn't involved. Unfortunately Wonkette and many others don't really see what piss poor condition this country is in and that the opacity of the election systems are in large part to blame. The naysayers still have faith in the two-party political system and are willing to gloss this over in exchange for '08.

They will see....they will see.
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euler Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:52 PM
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27. Yes....
"Unfortunately Wonkette and many others don't really see what piss poor condition this country is in "

Al Republicans and almost all Democrats have been brainwashed or hypnotized by Bush. Thank GOD, most DU members have been able to resist this.
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 12:49 PM
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5. Well that is what you get....
when "society" watchers report the news.

I can accept a loss, but I cannot will not sulk when it is clear that what I am told is the truth; looks nothing like reality.

It is simple they hand count the votes in Ohio, New Mexico, or Florida... I will shut up... Until then get the FUCK OUT OF MY WAY, or I will knock anyone down that stands between the truth and myself.

This is America people; we are only free when we are free to disagree with the bullshit labeled conventional wisdom.
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 12:56 PM
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6. Forget her. She was never committed to getting at the truth anyway
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:09 PM
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8. I agree.
She's just trying to become another "personality," albeit one of those new-fangled bloggers they love to chuckle about on CNN.

One of her guest columnists is a gay republican.

She's annoying.
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 12:56 PM
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7. Ignorance is bliss.
Edited on Wed Dec-29-04 12:58 PM by SueZhope
Sounds like she is just trying to get some laughs
Perhaps learning about the reality of our election system is
"to much hard work"

Its much easier to make fun of those who are trying to
expose the truth beyond the spin of the MSM.
Monkey see monkey do
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #7
19. oh, how true. n/t
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:10 PM
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9. Isn't she witty!!!!! Why don't we just rename her Drudgette already.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:48 PM
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21. "Drudgette" ... Sounds like a good fit to me
thanks
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:51 PM
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23. LOL, perfect
Drudgette
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bones_7672 Donating Member (558 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:59 AM
Response to Reply #9
45. I'd like to see someone draw a caraciture of that! n/t
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:11 PM
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10. I saw a really obnoxious blonde blogger on TV a few days ago...is she
that one??? I almost hurled. She sounded like she had gone to FAUX's
"School for Bimbo 'Journalists'"
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:22 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. I have noticed they all look like that n/t
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:16 PM
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11. ???
I don't see where she singles out DUers, but she certainly is down playing the need to verify that election fraud isn't going on.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:17 PM
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12. That spoiled brat
tries so hard to be someone cutting edge and in the know. She instead comes across as a snot nosed pris with a big mouth. What weight does this carry? Nuff said.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:18 PM
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13. She can't even spell 'Diebold' right. WTF does she know?


(no kidding...)

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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:19 PM
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14. she's only slamming SOME DUers
let's not lump us all together, some of us are equally as annoyed by this crap as she is.

And she does not specifically mention DU, but misleading headlines are par for the course.
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femme.democratique Donating Member (969 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:34 PM
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17. I'm sorry you're annoyed by attempts to...
Edited on Wed Dec-29-04 02:14 PM by femme.democratique
...uncover corruption and take back our country. Yeah sure, BushCo. is trustworthy, and so is Katherine Blackwell! Yeah sure, there are NO PROBLEMS and certainly NO FRAUD when minions of one political party own all privatized voting systems. I'm so sorry that you're SO PUT OUT by us....*rolling eyes*
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:32 PM
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25. Good gracious
Is it possible to be just a little more spiteful when addressing someone whose opinion differs from yours ??

Venom like that certainly won't win any more allies to the cause.

:freak:


:hippie:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:15 AM
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49. Some Posters 'Opinions' Serve An Agenda At Odds With Democrats
and manage to post here on a frequent basis because they manage to stay within bounds.
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euler Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:55 PM
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28. I'm not...
...annoyed by attempts to uncover corruption and take back our country," but so far I've seen only attempts, no real fraud. Mistakes don't equal fraud.

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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #14
22. ditto
But she is definitely part of the Washington insider crowd she mocks daily. A parasitic pseudo MSM whore.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 01:42 PM
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20. Is she a Demo clothed in Red ???

Sure is looking like it.

:kick:
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joevoter Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:19 PM
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24. I sent her this...
Yeh... the flood of emails saying "please cover election fraud" has been hard for many people to deal with but please remember that it is all a good faith effort in a climate of suppression.

I don't think that serious people ever expected to see the recount show a significant difference but what we did expect to see is the overt attempt by Blackwell to obstruct and subvert the process. People should now realize that the republican armor surrounding the truth about the election is very thick. The recount had a big benefit in that it has shown how Blackwell is willing to break Ohio law and how election officials have allowed tampering of the voting machines to happen with no oversight.

Thus the recount was successful in keeping the effort of truth finding alive and thanks to persistent election fraud activists we can still expect to see cracks in the armor and fraud evidence leaking out.

Don't leave for Canada just yet. We need your voice describing the election fraud events as they unfold.

Thanks -

Joevoter
Ashland, OR
www.aefwg.com
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wendypan Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 02:36 PM
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26. Coordinated Hits!
Yes! We got slammed by all sorts of conservatives today! Did you see the NY Post article? podhertz or something. and other websites are slamming us. This is where the rubber hits the road. Rock on! Yes we can!

Yipee! We must be hot on their trail they finally have responded and broken their code of silence.
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libertypirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:02 PM
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30. It's called the liberal media...
because they want us to think it is on our side, I hope by now we know better. Framing

How many people here think the media is liberal?

Do you really think they are on our side?

Did you know the biggest special interest group is the media?
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tgnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:04 PM
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31. I love it when snarky white folk
mock those who point out legitimate racial foundations for certain voting patterns. She's so useful to us.
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:09 PM
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32. Actually...
She never once mentioned DU. She even floats the idea that maybe some of this stuff isnt worth reporting - and that any fraud lawsuits are pointless and people here start saying "Holy shit she must be a republican"

If someone says or does something you dont like, that doesnt make them a right winger... if a media outlet doesnt do somethign you want them to do, it doesnt make them bias.

GET A LIFE PEOPLE.


I thought this was a board for Democrats - not a board for extremists with a bad tendency of letting their knee jerk reactions get the better of them. The more and more I read it, the more extremism I see.


Guess Im a republican now, huh?
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #32
46. Clueless and Preachy
Get A Life People
I thought this was a board for Democrats
Guess Im a republican now, huh?


As for the part about 'extremism', I would assert that the Democrats and those with left leaning ideas NEED a bit more extremism. One of the most valuable aspects of extremism is that it defines the center. Currently, there is no balance between the far right and the far left. Everything has been pulled to the right.
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Bethany Rockafella Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:20 PM
Response to Reply #32
56. No, I wouldn't say you're a republican.
You're probably just defending her because you more than likely have the hots for her.

So there!
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:20 PM
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33. Princess Wonkette in her privileged ivory tower, sees all, judges wisely
I find it difficult to believe that people actually pay attention to the tripe she writes.

Princess Wonkette is a "The Note" wannabe. Move along, nothing to see worth noting.
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wakemewhenitsover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:20 PM
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34. How do you explain former fiery bloggers Kos and Atrios...
...becoming part of the "proudly ineffectual"?
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:18 AM
Response to Reply #34
50. Good Question. Denial?
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:24 PM
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35. This lady has the same political weight of a bag of popcorn (n/t)
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #35
36. How much political weight does DU have?
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #36
37. Impossible to quantify
And we are not a mainstream political movement, I guess I need to remind you of that fact!
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:36 PM
Response to Reply #37
38. I also thought she'd be a perfect guest on the Howard Stern show-
they both seem to be very much obsessed with anal sex.
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #37
39. ok, so more or less than a bag of popcorn?
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #39
41. Grab a bag popcorn and find out (n/t)
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:44 PM
Response to Reply #41
42. Thats the stupidest thing Ive seen today
You bitch that Wonkette doesnt have any political weight... which obviously implies that either you or this site as a whole does. Either explain your point or give it up
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #42
43. You mean "stupidest" than your posts???
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Machiavelli05 Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:49 PM
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44. Good job trying to call my english usage out.. but...
1 entry found for stupidest.


stu·pid     P   Pronunciation Key  (stpd, sty-)
adj. stu·pid·er, stu·pid·est


www.dictionary.com
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:42 PM
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57. True...it would have made much more sense to call you on this...
"You bitch that Wonkette doesnt have any political weight... which obviously implies that either you or this site as a whole does."

No such implication was made with the observation "She has the political weight of a bag of popcorn n/t", either obvious or subtle.
:eyes:
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FreeCajun Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-29-04 03:40 PM
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40. "Deibold" Dei meaning God, of course
To explain the miracle of Shrub's victory.

what was that Stalin said about the votes not counting, only the people who count the votes?

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thanatonautos Donating Member (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 10:08 AM
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47. There is nothing about DUers in there as far as I can see.
It's a generic rejection of any possible problems with
our election system ... not that that's much better.

I don't think Wonkette is very hot ... I prefer
Kate Winslett or Kate Blanchett, thank you very
much.
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MissWaverly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:03 AM
Response to Original message
48. Why we should care
George said that we would bring democracy to the Iraqi people,
that
means vote adjustment, we have to show the world that
democracy means something here/MissWaverly, I cut and paste
this from Yahoo! News
Top Stories - Reuters 
 Iraq Rejects U.S. Talk of Adjusting Vote Result
Sun Dec 26, 2:26 PM ET   Top Stories - Reuters 
By Luke Baker 
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Iraq (news - web sites)'s election body
rejected a suggestion in Washington it adjust the results of
next month's vote to benefit the Sunni minority if low turnout
in Sunni areas means Shiites win an exaggerated majority in
the new assembly. 


 



 
 
 
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 05:38 PM
Response to Reply #48
52. Hi MissWaverly!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 03:23 PM
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51. Persecution syndrome?
There was no mention of DU in that article?
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 05:49 PM
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53. Bob Somerby's got her number. She's a total fraud.
If she's progressive, I'm the Anti-Pope from the planet XURTOKISTONIKAN. Or something.

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m.standridge Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:14 PM
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54. who the hell is this and why should I care?
just another person in line at the polling station.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:15 PM
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55. Wonkette nails it too
:thumbsup:
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 06:59 PM
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58. U 2 wonkette?
Wonkette goes on blacklist. I'm keeping tabs. I used to read wonkette. Now I will call her Wonk-antoinette.

"concentrate on your canadian visa applications..." she says smirkily

--she might as well be saying "let them eat cake.." (Marie Antoinette)

----------------------:sigh:
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BreakForNews Donating Member (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 07:05 PM
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59. The slamming is likely to continue
....and extend. Such as KOS today also.

That's how they play the game.
Bash the truth. Stomp . Stomp.

Oh Yah. They fightin' now.

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