AP Wire: Chief justice refuses to remove self from vote challenge

[shiina]

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Posted on Wed, Dec. 29, 2004

Chief justice refuses to remove self from vote challenge

Associated Press

COLUMBUS, Ohio - Chief Justice Thomas Moyer of the Ohio Supreme Court on Wednesday refused to remove himself from a case challenging the results of the presidential election.

Moyer also rejected a request by voters challenging the results for a speedy hearing and an order that election boards preserve evidence from the election.

The voters and their attorneys filed poorly documented affidavits that contain hearsay, don't indicate who the people making statements are and don't explain what their statements have to do with the election, Moyer said.

The challengers have provided "nothing suggesting that Ohio election officials are engaging, or will engage, in illegal conduct," said Moyer, who called their documents "woefully inadequate."

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http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/news/state/105236...

[GetTheRightVote]

1. I just tried the link, it said requested article not there ???

:kick:

[shiina]

9. correct link

http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/news/state/10523670.htm?1c

[lonestarnot]

2. Moyers is unethical in not recusing himself. Guess he does have 10

Commandment patches pinned on the front of HIS robe...Maybe just robeitis.

[Benhurst]

3. Move on, folks. It's just another corrupt, Repub, Chief "Justice". NT

:puke:

[Doctor O]

4. WTF Arnebeck does it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There is solid grounds here for Moyer to act on. If he granted the motion based on three more examples of sloppy work by Arnebeck, higher courts would throw these out on appeal without thinking about it. And they certainly would not apporve the expedited hearing based on this.

http://www.sconet.state.oh.us/rod/newpdf/0/2004/2004-oh...

And this is the Great Lawyer Arnebeck. He really should have known b better on these affidavits. Any court would have tossed these!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[righteous1]

5. True....and calling his motions and attachments "woefully inadequate"

does not bode well for the whole action

[rfrrfrrfr]

6. Um

Remember People Moyers himself is alleged to be elected illegally. If that is true he has every reason to be very biased and not only knit pick anything Arnebaeck does but would have absolutely no reason to be fair or impartial in the case in the first place.

Considering that He is walking on ehtical eggshells in his original seperation motion and his refusal to recuse himself from the case.

Don't you think any decisions he makes will be hihghly suspect. what planet did you people grow up on anyway?

/sarcasm on

Oh yes I who am accused of being fraudulently elected myself will be very eager to give any case that hints that the election I was in was fraudulent in any way and give it any kind of fair or impartial hearing of any kind.

/sarcasm off

Get real people if he is innocent and everything was kosher he should have no objection to recusing himself to remove any appearance of impropriety. Did you honestly think if what has been alleged in the suit is true that he wouldn't throw every legal hurdle he possibly can
at Arnebeck before ultimately dissmissing the suit as frivolous or groundless. Wake up I say.

Sheesh

[Doctor O]

7. If the affadavits are bad, any actions that Moyer took

would be thrown out on appeal.

[rfrrfrrfr]

21. That presumes the Affidavits are bad

And that Moyer is not delaying to cover his own butt. And they are too related. Moyers "alleged" fraudulent election is being used as evidence to bolster the bush fraud claim. How can any seriously say they are not.

The only reason they were seperated is becaus MOYER, who is charged with being fraudulently elected, Ruled on his own case. Now he may not have technically violated OHIO law but he sure did trample over quite thouroughly. All your assumptions are assuming that Moyer is acting as an impartial and fair judge of the case. Which I think has been readily shown he is not.

[righteous1]

8. Legally there is no connection between the two cases

other than the election was held on the same day. Moritzlaw states that the is NO conflict of interest exists and that no court in the land would seek to disqualify him from sitting in judgement concerning Moss v Bush. You may not like it but that's the way it is

[eowyn_of_rohan]

10. Quit trashing Arnebeck on thread after thread

Why would you want to so quickly dismiss someone who is fighting for "OUR" side, eh?

[Doctor O]

11. From the results of hte past few days, I am not sure who

he is fighting for. He has put out requests for 200,000 for his case. That kind of money says to me I am going to deliver results. Those of us who have contributed to his cause based on his claims to have evidence to blow the lid off the election, have a right to question these shoddy actions he has taken.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

13. Many of us have contributed.

Don't turn on him, put your rage where it belongs--on this CORRUPT judge.

[cyberpj]

14. Bravo! Agreed! eom

[righteous1]

15. It 's statement like that that make people question your credibility

and hence anything you say. I have seen no evidence that this judge is "corrupt". His actions so far have been pretty pedictable and have shown strict adherence to Ohio law, nor have I seen any demonstrable bias in his words or actions.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

18. Who's questioning besides you?

I have seen no evidence that Arnebeck has made a major gaffe either, and where is evidence to that end? What was your opinion of Katherine HArris's legal interpretations after the 2000 election? Did she also show "strict adherence" to Florida law in your opinion?

[righteous1]

19. I have not jumped on the "trash" Arnebeck bandwagon.

I am a bit irritated with him concerning some of legal actions he has submitted, but I am still behind him for now

[eowyn_of_rohan]

20. What did you think of Katherine Harris's reading of FLA law?

Did she also show "strict adherence" to Florida law in your opinion? I am REALLY interested in your opinion on this.

[Mojorabbit]

12. I do have a question

If there are supposed to be 1700 lawyers on the ground in Ohio why is there not some huge collaboration going on? Probably I have no idea how this all works in the real world....

[fooj]

16. WHAT ARE THEY HIDING?

How obvious is this?!!!!!!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

17. What ARE they hiding???

[Andy_Stephenson]

22. Moyer is so full of himself and

Sh!* his eyes are brown.

[lonestarnot]

23. Fuck Moyer!