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CraZdem4life Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 05:36 PM
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is the fight over?
lets face it...kerry's not contesting this election (contrary to last week's reports) and even if there is 1 sen and 1 house rep contesting it on jan 6th, the gay old party will just strike it down. bottom line: bush gets 4 more years...is anything going to change that? and how do we know if textbook authors would even include our actions in future textbooks for the following generations?
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 05:37 PM
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1. I think you're late (n/t)
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 05:37 PM
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2. it depends what you think the fight is
if you think it's about Kerry being president, then it's over.

If you think it's about fixing the problems, then it's not nearly over.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 05:40 PM
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3. Cocoa is CORRECT! IT'S ABOUT ***VOTING RIGHTS***
Edited on Thu Dec-30-04 05:41 PM by autorank
Always has been. Let's keep defining the issue clearly and then let the Repukes oppose voting rights. We win!

On edit -- Welcome to DU, RaulVB (saw your team live whip the Skin's butts, was a thing of beauty)
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:06 PM
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7. Thanks, wow!
You were there...

Yep!...it was beeeeeautiful...:party:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:21 PM
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11. As you might guess, I prefer another team. I really wanted the
omen to work -- Skins lost at home, Dems win the presidency. It was pretty funny because about 10-15% of the crowd cheered like crazy for the Pack. Politics is more important than football in this town. Favre is truly a football god. He makes it look so easy, totally composed, great field leader. This guy should be calling his own plays!
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:22 PM
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13. Yeah...he should run for office! (n/t)
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 03:43 PM
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43. Um the record hasn't failed until the 20th... N/T
-Hoot
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CraZdem4life Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 02:30 AM
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36. @cocoa
@cocoa:

qoute: "if you think it's about Kerry being president, then it's over."

then why are we bothering? even if we do figure it out and we make our statement, we still get another 4 years with Bush & his corp cronies.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 05:41 PM
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4. there's a thread started by Revolutionary Acts that might help you
He died and is taking questions about the future. :)
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seito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:00 PM
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5. OK, lets just go home then
NOT!

Sorry, I think I will stick this one out. I have been reflecting on some words posted by William Pitt the other night. It is truly a great time to be alive. As bleak as the future might be, we few have the opportunity to change it. Would I give up this fight because the odds are long? Would I pack up and go home because it might get worse before it gets better? Hell no.

I am an American and I know the truth. What a powerful thing that is. This country is not gone, Democracy is not out of reach. We, the few, that know the truth and have the passion and perseverance will change history. I have no doubt about it.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:03 PM
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6. "Was it over when the Germans Bombed Pearl Harbor?"
"Hell No! And it ain't over now"
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:09 PM
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8. Er...uhm, the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor...
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The Gigmeister Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:16 PM
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9. Er...uhm, Animal House...
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Turn CO Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:34 PM
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17. I knew it must be some movie, but
I guess I'll have to rent that some night...somehow in all these years, I never managed to see that one.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:22 PM
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12. Didn't Osama bomb Pearl Harbor??? n/t
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:26 PM
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32. No Clinton bombed Pearl Harbor n/t
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:24 PM
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15. "(Let him go, he's on a roll...)"
Edited on Thu Dec-30-04 06:25 PM by ClassWarrior
Your line is supposed to be, "Germans?"

<LOL>

NGU.


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bemis12 Donating Member (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:20 PM
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10. It would have been over
if there was no evidence that Pearl Harbor had been bombed. No debris, no rubble, no dead sailors. If the only evidence were some bizarre spreadsheets "proving" that bombs had fell, yeah, it would have been over.
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:27 PM
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16. Ha, ha..."Bluto"!
What a coincidence that he ran and won a "senatorial race..."
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:12 PM
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25. umm Japanese.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:24 PM
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14. No... it's just beginning, baby!!!
We no longer have to be accountable to anyone. This is an ENTIRELY RepubliCON government - when the shit hits the fan it falls squarely in THEIR laps.

Time to start building the case for impeachment - starting with the Honorable Congressman Conyers' formal challenge to the election!!

WOOOOOO-HOOOOOOOOOO!!!!...

NGU.


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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:54 PM
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RaulVB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:55 PM
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19. You are not possibly serious! (n/t)
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smartvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 06:59 PM
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20. LOL!!! Fat chance! nt
Edited on Thu Dec-30-04 06:59 PM by smartvoter
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:09 PM
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:15 PM
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27. with such a subtle name, no worries, you will never be found out.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:04 PM
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21. We are contesting it, We AreThe Voters whose election was stolen
he just may end up in the WH because we wish to have them counted correctly that's all.

:kick:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:11 PM
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:13 PM
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26. Your frip is showing.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:12 PM
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24. it has just began to get interesting ..........
:kick:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:16 PM
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28. Wow! Arent there a lot of disrupters responding to this thread?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:23 PM
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:28 PM
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30. And I guess you were one of them so why are you even here?
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mbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 07:43 PM
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31. Kerry will dismantle this fraud one way or the other! The criminals
cannot stop him. Truth will prevail one way or the other, sooner or later, but it will prevail!
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burn the bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 08:38 PM
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33. I'm afraid the fights not over til we are free
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 09:17 PM
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34. The First Salvo Has Just Been Fired
The real fireworks don't begin until Janury 6!
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poe Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-30-04 11:00 PM
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35. detumescence
the point of the challenge is to open up avenues of investigation and work ones way up the corrupt ladder in the hopes of catching the higher ranking piranhas. this is the tactic used in all conspiratorial investigations, the most widely used method of investigation. i am not a coincidence theorist. disabuse yourself of the notion that detumescent democrats like kerry, gore etc. have the courage to get in the way of this batch of rapacious republicans. they are too tidywhiteneat and truly elite.
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corbett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 01:59 PM
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40. Not Decorated Vietnam Vets!
You'll understand if I disagree with you. John Kerry is the real deal. Not only did he take the fight TO the VC while in-country, he fought his way to the top in his freshman Senate class to garner quick recognition as a true centrist.

Al Gore is a genuine statesman who has learned from his profound errors in late 2000 but there's no need to worry that Kerry won't stand up to the freight train which is the Radical Right. When the dust settles, they won't know what hit them!

No Viagra needed!
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New Earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 02:32 AM
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37. 5 words for you
KERRY WON, GET OVER IT!!!!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 04:45 AM
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38. i'd like to share 4 words if I may...
WHAT ARE THEY HIDING???:think:
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CraZdem4life Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 04:49 AM
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39. i believe too!
i believe too...but if we cant turn bush off and kerry on in reality :'(
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 02:07 PM
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41. Contrary to last week's reports?
When was there EVER a report that he was contesting the election. There wasn't I don't think.

It really needs to be someone other than Kerry or Edwards.

No gloom and doom until after Jan. 6, eh? Stopping a bit early it seems.

As for me, no gloom and doom ever. If I can't have Prez Kerry, I will work with Sen. Kerry. Worth man either way.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-05 02:35 PM
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42. Nah, fight won't be over...
...in fact, we have only just begun to NOT get over it.

Every victory counts, no matter the short-term outcome. All adds up and establishes precedent. The gop looks worse and worse.

Why worry about textbooks while you're making history???
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