Will any Senator object to the Electoral Count?

[brainshrub]

What do you think? I'm not optomistic.

Please add your own comments.

[still_one]

1. a better question is

will any democratic sentator fight for social security, a woman's right to choose, healthcare, etc., or will they just bend over like they did in * first four years

[48pan]

2. I walked past Kerry's house today...

I guess the vigil is over. He's off skiing and he's going on a trip for the first two weeks of January. He won't even be there.

[WilliamPitt]

17. I thought he was going to Iraq

Agence France Presse

Former White House hopeful John Kerry to travel to Iraq
(AFP)

24 December 2004

WASHINGTON - Former Democratic White House contender John Kerry announced Thursday that he will travel to Iraq early next year for firsthand look at events on the ground, and to meet with troops from his home state of Massachusetts.

“In January, I will go to Iraq to se the situation firsthand and personally visit with our courageous troops who are serving America so well,” the US senator said in a statement.

...more...

[48pan]

20. Yes. Iraq is one of his destinations. He won't be...

In the Senate when it accepts the electoral vote.

[demo dutch]

41. Probably has a motive to be out of town!

[madaboutharry]

3. There is a sign on the door of the

U.S. Seante that reads:
"YOU ARE NOW ENTERING A COJONES FREE ZONE"

[Wapsie B]

4. If Democrats want to rule in this country,

they've got to challenge this and everything else that comes down the pike. If they show no spine now what good are they?

[still_one]

5. the 2000 election and the last four years is your answer

[Eye_on_prize]

49. Exactly.. tis the season to fight for democracy and WIN. it's in the air.

see Ukraine, see Washington state, see Orange Times Square on New Years Eve ... When people stand up and fight for fair and transparent elections and insist every vote is transparently and fairly counted, amazing things can and DO happen. Now it's time for our esteemed Democratic US Senators to stand up and say no to His Fraudulency. They MUST know there won't be any 'we'll get em next time' cuz there won't be a next time, with rigged elections, no fillibuster, etc. etc. ad nauseum. Jan. 6th will be their last big 'next time' ....it's all they have now, i just hope a few US Senators fully realize this and act accordingly.

[EFerrari]

6. I wonder. I really do. Because it's been nearly 40 years since

we were faced with this kind of crisis.

Pack your own chute, for sure. But don't rule anything out You never know when something good might happen.

[puddycat]

7. Never in a million years! being a Senator is a juicy job of a lifetime

and not one of them is going to risk his butt for anything--not even the good of his country.

I hope I'm wrong.

[Doctor O]

8. Barbara Boxer said she would object, but only if a rep or Sen from

Ohio would join them. However, to date I have not heard any rumblings from any of them that they are going to object to their own EV. I believe the other factor would be Kerry asking them to, but I do not believe this is going to happen. Therefore I do not believe any Senator will stand up.

[EFerrari]

9. Where is DENNIS? :(

[Junkdrawer]

10. In the House of Representatives...

He's not a Senator

[EFerrari]

11. Right. But he's gone dark. Must be an epidemic. n/t

[Eye_on_prize]

25. but Kucinich IS Ohio Rep, so if that's all Boxer needs..where's Dennis?

indeed...

[Freddie Stubbs]

43. Didn't you see his testimony at Conyer's hearing?

:shrug:

[Eye_on_prize]

46. no. i thought someone said K. just had an aide there on his behalf

was not aware he was anywhere near the hearings. was he there? did he testify? cool. i'll have to watch it again and look for it. I did see a very on-point webpage attributed to Kucinich calling attention to the fraud a couple of weeks after the election, so i assume he's 'on board' that way, but you'd think with OH being his home state, he's be a bit more visible on this ...or maybe he's working furiously behind the scenes -- as we speak -- preparing for Jan 6th. Go Dennis!!

[madison2000]

12. Well thats like saying she wont stand up.

Why can't she stand up by herself?

[mtnester]

40. Forget a senator from Ohio - DeWine and Voinovitch will never do it

Dewine - no spine
Voinovitch - belongs to the same dirty money, ethics problems club as *

Neither one, ever will do it. It will have to be a rep.

[Freddie Stubbs]

42. Do you have a link to back that up?

:shrug:

[mountainvue]

48. Stephanie Tubbs Jones will.

She's from Ohio.

[IndyPriest]

13. Absolutely. Conyers is organizing a full court press.

Never happened before. I think the pot's well passsed simmer, starting to boil.

[malatesta1137]

14. If not even Ted Kennedy contests this

the Democratic Party is over. REALLY finished.

[marcologico]

15. I'm optimistic that Kennedy will come through.

And if he doesn't it will be for a good reason (not a fake one like Boxer's)

[malatesta1137]

21. lol

WHAT good reason? Like, there was no fraud? Please.

[marcologico]

22. Kerry might ask him not to

so that Kennedy doesn't get ridiculed by the Murdoch smear machine and marginalized in the Senate. I mean come on, what practical benefit would it have anyway? Kerry will keep investigating the election fraud whether or not any senators protest on Jan. 6.

[kerrygoddess]

23. Kennedy has held up

against the Murdoch smear machine for decades... that won't stop him.

If the Lion of the Senate wants to ROAR... he ROARS!

My bet is he'll ROAR!

[malatesta1137]

24. practical benefit?

what about stand for what's right??

Let's see what happens Jan 6, we'll find out if there's even a single Democrat with F*CKING COURAGE left.

[Machiavelli05]

27. you need a hug.

Youre worse at over simplifying than even the most simpleminded republican drone.

[malatesta1137]

28. Zell Miller has spoken.

[EFerrari]

35. When did he get language? Next, simple tools. n/t

[dpbrown]

16. Edwards doesn't have anything to lose - he's retiring and already rich

And he was the second spot on the ticket.

Kerry 2004 just isn't Kerry 1972, unfortunately.

DPB

[Mr.Green93]

29. Edwards won't be there

[Truman01]

31. Edwards isn't a Senator. He is gone already. nt

[New Earth]

18. has this poll been freeped?

:P

[Truman01]

32. No Faye, it's called political reality. nt

[zimba]

19. My vote says Senator Boxer will.

Or Byrd. Or both. That would be nice, yes.

[The Judged]

26. United we stand, divided we fall ... All together now!

[Truman01]

30. I am betting CONYERS won't dispute the vote.

With no one on the Senate side, and/or no chance of doing any real damage, I don't see anyone risking their political capital.

Reality sucks.

TC

[EFerrari]

36. Yet he released a public statement. Maybe he has a plan.

[Truman01]

37. He released a statement saying that he WOULD definitely

dispute the election?

TC

[EFerrari]

38. Ah, the politician's subjunctive n/t

[Dale Axelrod]

33. Only if we can AROUSE them with VERIFYGRA

Electile dysfunction got you down?
VERIFYGRA is the answer. Tested and proven effective in Ukraine --- and now available in the United States.

Ask John Kerry and your Senators to get on Verifygra and stand up against the inadequate recount in Ohio (and refuse to certify the election on January 6th).  Tell them, if you can't verify it, don't certify it!

See to prescribe VERIFYGRA with rallies and press conferences, faxes, phone calls and graphics.:hippie:

[Vinca]

34. Remember the scene in Fahrenheit 911?

Get ready for a repeat. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm betting the only thing any senator will be protecting is his/her own behind.

[gotitans2]

39. No Senator will object

Politically, an objection is very very risky, which is why only entrenched Senators from blue states who do not aspire to be President are the ones everyone mentions as possibilities.

The political problem is that a large majority of Americans believe Bush "won" by 3,500,000 as it is what the MSM told them on November 3. Every Senator knows that an objection would force the MSM into this thing. All you will hear from the MSM at that point is how the objecting Senator or Senators and the party are "sore losers" and how they are thwarting the will of the people.

If a Senator objects, it must be under the guise of election reform and be formalistic in nature in order for the party to not be deemed as sore losers. In my opinion any objecting Senator must be very clear that he or she is not trying to overturn the results of the election, but is using his or her objection to spotlight the need for election reform so that all Americans are guaranteed the right to have their vote counted.

[Walt Starr]

44. Man, more than half of DU will be more disappointed next Thursday

than they were on November 2nd!

There will be no Senator objecting. The electoral vote count will come and go as it has for about the past two centuries with no objections raised.

[Brundle_Fly]

50. I hope you are wrong Walt.

but I think you are right.

If no one protests this we are stuck with machines in 2006 & 2008, and again we will lose. etc etc et al.

something needs to be done.

[FreepFryer]

52. Do you have anything other

Than your own convictions to back up your view?

Because it almost comes off as if you want to suppress the effort to 'get out the troops' and contact our Senators. I'd hate to think that!

PLEASE FOLKS - If you want to help, contact your Senators to ask them to consider the evidence brought forth by The House Judiciary Committee, use the contact form at http://www.thehill.com (scroll down and enter your zip in the 'America Speaks' sidebar), or contact your Senators directly using the contact info in other recent threads.

[SammyWinstonJack]

45. They didn't in 2000

I watched that pathetic display while it was happening and felt angry and shame. :puke: Not one Senator had the guts to stand up. Why should anyone believe anything will be different this time, especially with all that has transpired i.e. intimidation, anthrax, Wellstone, etc.? :shrug:

[Brundle_Fly]

53. scary to think

that Cheney is the senate head as vice president, essentially replacing Gore's position in 2000

Although he has a terrible record of showing up on the floor.

[FreepFryer]

47. Yes,

I'll take a 50-50% bet that one will.

Things have a different feel to them, this time.

[karlrschneider]

51. No. It ain't gonna happen. And never have I more wanted to be wrong.

:grr:

[super simian]

54. I can see it happening...

...and I know I'm not crazy. I have found that I have a tough time visualizing things that are extremely unlikely to happen. So even though my brain tells me that it is extremely unlikely that a senator will stand up, I can still picture it very easily so that's why I think it really could happen.

In 2000 it all happened in the dark and it wasn't until years later that thanks to MM we all found out that evidently there were no senators with any spine. But I think then and correct me if I'm wrong that Al Gore had asked them not to, which John Kerry hasn't.

So I can see it happening, literally, for whatever that's worth. So my vote is yes.

And... if there is anything to the powers of visualization, I say let's all picture it happening!!! Can't hurt....

I've also experimented with life and discovered that disappointments hurt less when you are optimistic beforehand than when you are pesimistic. So... nothing to lose and much to gain by thinking positive!

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