If the Repub MSM Machine is NOT nailing Conyers then they know somethin

[FULL_METAL_HAT]

Seriously, the marching orders come down from on high DAILY (and I'm sure they get INSTANT messages sometimes too), and if there isn't a PEEP about Conyers freeking STANDING UP, which is SUCH CHUM IN THE WATER for Rush Limburger (as my mom UN-intentionally always calls him, which makes me double-chuckle) and the rest, then they are SILENT ON PURPOSE ... which means the orders are DO NOT MENTION CONYERS -- which I would hazard means the generals of the * admin are FREEKING OUT RIGHT NOW.

When I learned how the theo-cons managed to take over the "Republican polity*", it made so much sense! Over the last 20+ years they basically BUM-RUSHED local Republican meetings by going en-masse, asking lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of questions, to the point where, ahem, "real Republicans" (I CAN"T BELIEVE I JUST SAID THAT!!** :)) would GET TIRED AND GO HOME, feeling bored and bewildered by these new members with their million stupid questions. Enough to slowly, month-by-month, participate less and less... All the while the theo-cons are VOTING THEMSELVES IN to all these local offices! Local Dog Catcher then steps up and wins Regional Dog Catcher who then steps up and wins State Dog Catcher who then steps up and wins (EGAD!) FUCKING PRESIDENT DOG CATCHER.

You see how that works??

THEY BORED THE REAL REPUBLICANS AWAY!

Devious... god damned robots I say.

Anyhoo, *&co. KNOW their robots, like Asimov's, have one pesky "programming law" that if triggered will FTITA:

DON'T GET CAUGHT ! ! !

You break that one and their 1st Law of Theobotics runs this code in their brain:

1. "Jesus _wouldn't_ get caught I mean, do anything evil;
   
2. these guys are, thus, NOT like Jesus,
   
3. therefore they must be like Satan, therefore
   
4. THEY MUST BE DESTROYED"

Glory faith and begora, you gotta love FAITH (aka "follow the programming laws!") -- and nothing like a little black propaganda being turned on it's creators.

If, behind closed doors on Jan6, there is an unveiling of SERIOUS hardcore evidence being kept secret from us, and of course the "enemy", the even the Theo-cons will turn on them.

In fact, with the right "triple-x" evidence, it could be like a "nuclear bomb", wiping-out/purge of "the evil doers".

That'd be a sight for sore eyes!

I think "Stealthy Team Kerry" has got these bastards boxed in finally.

It is is my hope their SEa Air Land team has alllll the bases covered for their D-Day landing on Jan 6.

THIS IS NOT A DRILL -- Kerry knows it.

All the best,
{B^)
FULL_METAL_HAT

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* Polity is such a perfect word I have to share!
NOUN: Inflected forms: pl. pol·i·ties
1. The form of government of a nation, state, church, or organization. 2. An organized society, such as a nation, having a specific form of government: “His alien philosophy found no roots in the American polity” (New York Times).

BTW, I am already trying to "reclaim" the word "Republican". As we all know if you searched for another unifying characteristic, all of them would probably be classified as psychologically needy in a way that allows them to "look the other way" at bullshit going on around them -- it's not their fault they bought in hook-line-and-sinker to the neo-con's man-boy and his clubhouse pals -- they're the people who buy the shitty used cars! Pity over hate is my creed. Though a little hate will be needed on Jan 6, to "get their attention".

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[babylonsister]

4. And what might these radio and TV

stations be, and where? Links would be nice.
And welcome.

[PA Democrat]

8. You really should stop watching Fox news and relying on Rush

for your "news".

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[PA Democrat]

19. What station pray tell?

Inquiring minds want to know!

[FULL_METAL_HAT]

20. Maybe NYMD is a MD in New York? NYC or? n/t

[PA Democrat]

23. nymd81 claims to be a Floridian in another thread

in which he extols the virtues of Bush and bro' Jebby in their handling of the hurricanes. Curious that a legitimate local Florida newscast would be seeking to dirty the reputation of Conyers.

[notadmblnd]

41. There was an article in the Detroit News one day last week

written by the editors attempting to smear John Conyers. I wrote a LTTE, but I never got a response. Do a search on my posts, you should be able to find a link.

on edit: here's a link to the thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=204244

[pbartch]

45. Boy that is the truth. When people state that news portrays a politician

in a bad light........especially someone in the spotlight like Conyers, They definately should post more than they have dementia or are being made fun of during newscasts.

We need specific SHOWS, broadcasters, dates and times so we can follow up and notify the station we don't appreciate the misrepresention.

PLEASE POST FULL INFORMATION!!!!

[lonestarnot]

2. Polity roots in Polis - Greek City State

[xultar]

3. KKKarl Rove has something I'm sure, photoshopped pictures of Coneyers

with a cow, goat, sheep or something.

[Freddie Stubbs]

5. If orders are being issued from 'high up'

why isn't Keith Olberman following orders? :shrug:

[FULL_METAL_HAT]

26. I think Keith IS ...

Stealth Attack means you keep things "just under the radar".

For better or for worse, he _knows_ he's the "lookout", topside, in the machine gun tub
fingering the triggers of the dual 50-cal turrets on this "Patrol Craft Fast" (aka Swift-boat!). On this mission up this "apocalypse now" river of political insanity, KO has been laying down tracer fire to aid the gunners (all of us really) in laying our fire on the election fraud targets.

THIS IS NOT A DRILL -- Keith knows it.

He may not like it, but I think he's been "reporting for duty" to the captain of this boat for quite some time...

CHARLIE DON'T SURF!!!

{B^)

[Clark2008]

46. Because he doesn't give a flying flip

He's already left networks because of Lewinsky-gate, he's made his fortune (he continued to be paid something like $800,000 when he left Fox, even though he didn't work there anymore) and he actually believes in real journalism.

I don't buy into the "stealth attack" garbage. It doesn't fit with the rest of his resume.

My disagreement with you about KO aside, I do, however, believe the neo-cons are dispersed talking points in rapid-fire manner. What kind of mind does it take to just buy into this garbage without proof? :shrug: But, we're gonna have to find a way to combat it. And soon.

[PATRICK]

6. Another "secret" theory

when the simplest explanation is that they feel it is time to simply bury the story under the auspices of a natural disaster and the unstoppable progression of Bush to his second coup coronation. Remember how the hopeful reporters clustered around Mt. St. Helen's? But not Ohio? they doled out vicious attacks, ludicrous argumentation, parrot jungle screams and finally some meager outlets at MSNBC.

It never seemed to pass the level of strategic to the raw anger and terror you would have gotten had WE been allowed to organize like the Ukraine. It was almost a mocking counterpoint, a test pattern.

Gore 2000 was shut up completely with prejudice until 9/11 buried the final math of his victory. They certainly do not fear our evidence gathering or number crunching even if there are more people engaged on the ground than before.

They absolutely control the main themes of the news. Like all dictatorships, you can't make everything smell like roses, so ignoring the issue is the best final course- as it was the brutal first.

I hope however you are more than right. if not, let us make it so ourselves for the fight ahead.

[FULL_METAL_HAT]

7. As a "neo-punk" I like DIY Democracy ... oh, that's what its supposed to b

be! lol!

:)

[BlueEyedSon]

9. Yeah, the less fuss & attention, the better (for them) nt

[s-cubed]

10. Love it, FULL METAL!

I like your analysis. Any number of DUers have commented on the silence from the Dems & what that meant, but you're the first to point out the equally telling silence on the other side. I can't believe Rush is not all over Conyers!
(I never listen to the freak - bad for my blood pressure). So they're either in denial, thinking it will go away, or all wondering who's going to get caught and who's going to be the fallguys. Rich! :evilgrin:

[FULL_METAL_HAT]

18. You can call me Hat :)

Rush and the other brush-mouths are the advance-propaganda-team for the, ahem, 'real MSM'. So many times I've seen a meme floated out from Rush's "memehole" that over time get picked up as "common assumptions" by the, ahem, WHORE MSM (that better?).

There's gotta be 1,000 "ditto-memes" propagated since 2000 that got traction.

Remember their tactic is with a hand on their cross, BORE YOU INTO LEAVING.

People left democracy and now it's time to return...

[s-cubed]

11. self delete -dupe

[Imajika]

12. Oh please...

The reasons Conyers gets no media attention is that almost no one cares. Period.

Conyers is considered a bomb thrower from a safe district, infact the entire CBC is viewed that way. The mainstream media don't take Maxine Waters seriously, nor Cynthia McKinney, nor Barbara Lee, etc, etc.

If some moderates in the House you wouldn't expect stand up and contest the media will pay more attention. If a Senator contests, the media might pay more attention - though by doing it only at the last minute and not talking about it beforehand it will not have nearly the effect it might have if said Senator(s) had been speaking out about it for days or weeks. If Kerry or his campaign started suggesting the voting was rigged, the media would pay a lot more attention. If actual proof emerges, something real and solid, that shows Kerry lost the election because of vote fraud - the media will pay an enormous amount of attention.

Right now, there simply is not any real evidence showing some massive election conspiracy caused Kerry to lose. Conyers can contest, shout from the treetops, write letters, etc, and it won't interest the media. Not because the MSM and Republicans are scared, but because they simply do not take him, or the issue of vote fraud conspiracies seriously.

Imajika

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[driver8]

32. I agree, K Cabot...

Even if Rush and the rest of the ministry of propoganda were not worried about Conyers, they would still be bashing him daily. Just another example for the faithful followers of those "crazy liberals." These guys are like sharks, if they sense any weakness they are going to attack. That is how they operate.

The silence from the right wing blabbermouths is indicative of something else. The spin machine should be at full power by now.

[Last Lemming]

13. Agree with original poster

I think Kerry is daring them to start the Republican Noise Machine
The media is probably a little complicit with Kerry--remember there are heroes there--Paul Krugman is nobody's monkey--and what about the pounding the NYTs gave Bushites about that ammo dump---just prior to the election--these guys are not Bush's best buddies although they frequently his patsies

A few indirect signs that the administration may be facing some tough times:
1) Bush has disappeared, as far as I know--he didn't even make a statement about the oceanic catastrophe until it became painfully obvious he was missing in action--has anyone seen him since the news conference? Was the news conference canned?
2)Rush Limbaugh seems especially jittery especially prior to the elections--any questions about why this guy takes truckloads of narcotics?
3)The administration could not wait two weeks to get the new team in place--gives the election that well needed aura of legitimacy

[FULL_METAL_HAT]

22. 3 Excellent Points!

and I bet there's lots more ... but don't look for them -- cause the tsunami is more distracting ;)

[Last Lemming]

27. Tsunami actually is cover

for forces of good--

Look, we're dealing with a bunch of guys who are going to jail--Karl Rove right now is counting up the years--Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rice--we're talking jail time the minute their hand slips from the helm of the ship of state--these guys are desperate--a nuclear bomb dropped on New York is infinitely preferable to being Martha Stewarts bi*tch

you can't beat a coup with publicity and public discourse--you can only beat it with a counter-coup--forget a Democratic senator--it's going to take a lot more to take these guys down and I think we are watching an administration--this administration--implode--

Remember, the revolution will not be televised

I doubt Kofi Annan is in Jackson Hole just for the skiing

[FULL_METAL_HAT]

31. Spill the Kofi Beans!! :)

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:oHBoIaF1Qr0J:www.un.org/apps/sg/sgstats.asp+%22Kofi+Annan%22+%22Jackson+Hole%22&hl=en

Confirms he was vacationing in Jackson Hole, WY.

Why do you think he was there? Any juicy theories?? :)

I guess the big question is WHO ELSE was in Jackson's Hole?

{B^)
FMH

[Joe Chi Minh]

15. Surely,

they simply want him to draw as little attention to him as they can. What he represents is their demise, plain and simple, if and when he opens the floodgates.

[libertypirate]

16. It is simple math folks....

You give the MSM a week to discredit you, or get on board. If Conyers didn't have "evidence" then this would be a different story, there is enough confidence in the evidence found that they have given eveyone a long weekend and a whole week to wiggle, squirm, and try to deal their way out of trouble.

It's called check, like in chess. Your caught, your likely going down now you have to sweat it out.

[north houston dem]

21. or you start plotting for the next round

makes sense doesn't it? I tend to believe that at least one senator will stand up. Aftre watching the F911 video just now -I don't see how any of them could ignore another challenge.....there's too many of us watching this time.

My guess is they are plotting for the challenge to come.

[nashville_brook]

24. so much good stuff in this post!

i have never seen "theo-cons" used -- what a great term.

someone posted a leaked batch of real exit poll numbers in Late Breaking News, and it got locked, but here's the link to Scoop:

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/pdfs/Mitofsky4zonedata/

[FULL_METAL_HAT]

47. Thanks!

I was going to say thanks but I clicked on the link to the exit polls and didn't make it back here! :)

Google's got about 9000 pages with THEOCON and another 35,000 with THEO-CON
http://www.google.com/search?q=theo-con%20OR%20theocon

Robots I still say!

HNY!
FMH

[Laurab]

25. Interesting logic there

I'm not sure what to believe anymore. The only thing I truly believe is that there is no way the Dems are going to give up here. Not without a fight. The media, or at least the "Rush type" media would certainly attack - facts have never been of any concern to them before, so I'm thinking your logic might make sense. Why hasn't anyone jumped to discredit Conyers? Why hasn't anyone stepped up to defend Kenneth Blackwell and all his illegal maneuvers? I mean, shouldn't they be talking about what a fine upstanding guy he is, and how us "dissidents" are trying to make him into some kind of criminal?

The only other logic I can think of is that they are trying to make it a non-issue. That won't work if there's evidence, and I don't think Kerry would have attached his name to anything if there wasn't some evidence. It certainly won't work when/if the election is contested. Yep, I like your logic, it makes sense to me. Maybe I just want to like it, but since I believe the Dems know exactly what happened, and that some of them still care about democracy, it makes sense. I have faith - I think all hell is going to break loose in the next week or so.

[delphine]

28. Nah, they ignore him no matter what he does.

Repukes know if they protest or attack they call attention to what is now a completely invisible situation.

[Alizaryn]

29. I hope I am not agreeing with your logic because

its what I want to hear, but the same thoughts have been dancing around my mind.

[bunny planet]

30. Zany but true. Great post.

Rush Limburger, LOL

Like your name too.

[driver8]

33. Full Metal -- I like your writing style! I've been thinking...

Man, this election fraud could go so, so deep. Think of all of the rethug Reps. and Senators who may have won because of this.

How long will it take for a true democracy in America again?

[FULL_METAL_HAT]

35. Thanks and yes congress was stolen -- maybe even local dog catcher!!

Deep deep deep deep

MR. BROWN: What the fuck was I talking about?
MR. PINK: You said True Blue was about a sensitive girl party who meets a nice guy electorate, but Like a Virgin was a metaphor for big dicks election fraud.
MR. BROWN: Ok. Let me tell you what Like a Virgin's about. It's all about this cooz prez who's a regular fuck fraud machine. I'm talking morning, day, night, afternoon-- dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud, fraud, .
MR. BLUE: How many dicks frauds is that?
MR. WHITE: A lot.
MR. BROWN: Then one day she meets this John Holmes Kerry motherfucker, and it's like, whoa, baby. This cat is like Charles Bronson in the great escape. He's digging tunnels. she's getting this serious dick fraud-investigation action and feeling something she ain't felt since forever-- pain. Pain.
JOE Chu? Toby Chu? Yang? Li-Woan Yang?
MR. BROWN It hurts. It hurts her them. It shouldn't hurt them. Their pussy fraud should be bubbleyum bullet-proof by now, but when this cat fucks 'em, it hurts. It hurts just like it did the first time. You see, the pain is reminding a fuck fraud machine what it was like to be a virgin. Hence: Like a Virgin.


Sorry I couldn't help myself!!
{B^)

[pauldp]

34. Hopeful BUT what can we do about the MEDIA on Jan 6th?

Let's face it the corporate MSM is the scariest thing going now next to ShrubCO. What the fuck are we gonna do about their efforts to massively spin the Dems efforts on the 6th? WE need a plan for this.

[demo dutch]

37. I so agree! However I think that unless a Senator or Senators get

involved the media thinks this whole things is just going away like the last time. A while ago someone posted the answer they received from one of the members of the MSM (forget who) in response to the complaint that the MSM is not covering the Ohio mess. The MSM answer was, "heh we are keeping an eye on the developments in Ohio but nothing significant has developed yet, and so until it's really significant it's not worth covering."
So they're waiting for the big sensational news ... like the vote not being certified on the 6th. Mind you if nothing happens on the 6th all is lost!!

[FULL_METAL_HAT]

38. NOTHING!!

The MSM might as well be auld-lang-PRAVDA (old long-ago) ...

I think "Stealthy Team Kerry" has been playing them like a violin, considering how totally useless they have been at anything but reading * press releases and jumping over each other to take it in the face and show off their pearl necklaces...

The door to the court of public opinion no longer goes through the MSM ... the only chance is bringing secret evidence out in the 2 hours of closed door deliberation.

With serious evidence they can make an end run around the minefields of MSM.

And just like someone who can start a sentance with 'and' because they really know language usage... Kerry is someone who really knows the law, as protestor, prosecutor, Attorney General, and Senator.

He knows WHEN and HOW to avoid the law.

Does any one think that "the law" is going to protect democracy after 2000's bend-over by SCOTUS??

I say we're watching the biggest sting of modern history!

{B^)

[zapped 1]

43. good points all eom

[blue neen]

36. The very fact that we have had so many "interested bystanders"

in our midst at DU the past few days seems to indicate that they must be awfully worried! All manner of posters have been "checking in on us" to see what the news is. Some of them are very transparent, though.

[FULL_METAL_HAT]

39. How can you tell?? About these "interested bystanders"??

That'd be interesting to analyze.

[NVMojo]

40. the repukes are probably manning the phones and emails ...telling

Dem Senators and moderate Republicans that if they want to get anything done in Congress for their constituents in the future, they'd better keep their mouths shut and stand down Conyers ....

We need Senators with BALLS AS BIG AS GODZILLA for this job!!!!!

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[FULL_METAL_HAT]

44. Just curious NYMD81, can you recall which station? (from your first post)

And does NYMD stand for anything?

{B^)