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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:20 PM Original message |
Since when did Exit Polls (samples) become Exit Potes ("votes" mixed in)? |
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MissBrooks (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. Do you have the URL for this information |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. No link. But it's well established by Mitofsky/NPR . They admit it. |
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MissBrooks (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:27 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I'd love to read more. |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Here are some links |
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americanwoman (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Do we know whether or not this was the practice in say 2000? n/t |
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liam97 (406 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. This is another form of fraud |
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TruthIsAll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Never heard of it till now. Exit Polls are primarily for demographic info. |
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SicTransit (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
8. If you *really* want to know how exit polling works - |
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Cheswick2.0 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:59 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. never |
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bemis12 (594 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:20 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. It has, in fact |
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dlaliberte (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. Weighting for the truth |
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SicTransit (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 11:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. You don't understand something about exit polls |
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dlaliberte (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:28 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. I understood that just fine |
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jkd (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 01:32 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. What were Mitofsky's priorities? |
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americanwoman (75 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. I've read MysteryPollster |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
9. To put a benign interpretation on what CNN did |
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idiosyncratic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. How can someone "adjust" the numbers of a poll? |
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The Judged (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:31 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. They realized, because Kerry was ahead, that they sampled wrong! |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:33 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Here's how you "adjust" a poll |
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idiosyncratic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. But, but, but . . . that is WRONG! |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Nobody was disenfranchised because they |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 10:15 AM Response to Reply #23 |
43. The exit poll was over-ridden by the official Ohio vote tally |
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idiosyncratic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. But if there was FRAUD, the Ohio "official" vote is WRONG!! |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 05:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. My post # 43 essentially says what you say in your sugject heading |
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SicTransit (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
28. I posted this link above - |
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RevCheesehead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
11. Please excuse an ignorant question: |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I think they all got it from Mitofski. n/t |
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The Judged (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
13. Exit polling is a science. These *glitches* were fixed scientifically! |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. The raw data is like parmesan cheese: it needs to be aged |
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The Judged (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Are you sure that isn't Locatelli Romano? or Pecorino Romano? |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 07:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. Could be a good romano, aged in a cave until dry enough |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
17. It's a Media Crime. People claiming to report news crossing |
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The Judged (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 03:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Listen if you can't accept blind faith then you are a "dissident!" lol |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:08 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Yes, it was a journalistic crime of the first order... |
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1democracy (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. This is not a poll |
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jkd (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
27. Not a conspiracy |
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RaulVB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 06:47 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. CNN's crooks |
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jkd (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Why would CNN conspire with Mitofsky to steal the election? |
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RaulVB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Money and handouts from the FCC (n/t) |
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jkd (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 01:04 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. What have the Fellowship of Christian Cheerleaders got to do with it. |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Unindicted co-conspirators make strange bedfellows. |
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The Judged (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
33. Hours to act on exit polls and YEARS to prove the basis for those actions? |
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breadbox (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
35. a simple example |
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MissBrooks (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
36. UGH |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-31-04 10:13 PM Response to Original message |
37. BAD methodology? maybe this way by design... |
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understandinglife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-01-05 02:50 AM Response to Original message |
42. To Those Awaiting A Prelim Analysis of Exit Polling Data Released 12/31 |
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stepnw1f (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 09:23 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Somebody Prove To US Bush Won This Election |
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davidgmills (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 09:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Do you have this 12:23 screen shot saved on your computer? |
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Old and In the Way (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 10:16 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Happy to oblige. |
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davidgmills (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-02-05 10:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Wrong ones -- Those are Ohio from 12:21 |
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