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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 03:40 PM
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What the Senators are "really" doing...
Since the situation is impossible to predict at this time, no matter what insider information we have heard or what we have been told, we may as well consult that ancient political manual, The Book of Changes, which is as likely to be as accurate as any other form of speculation at this point.

I did throw the coins, asking, "What is happening with the Senators who might support Conyers, and how might we reach them?"

This is what I received as the "random" answer:

15. Humbling/The Grey One

Balance, adjust, cut through pride and complications; stay close to fundamentals; think and act in a modest way; activation of liminal, numinous powers and unconscious processes. The appearance of this omen indicates that your situation has constellated the unconscious powers and that you can trust in the outcome.

Second line-- The Grey One calling. Humbling signals to others. Wise words! The Way is open. This means centering and acquiring the heart. The work you are doing calls out to others like the cry animals use to recognize each other. Unconscious powers are at work. Don't hesitate.

Sixth line--The Grey One calling. Humbling signals to others. Advantageous to move the legions and chastise the capital city. Harvesting. Purpose is not acquired yet, but you are allowed to capture the capital. The inner work of your purpose calls out to others. Unconscious powers are at work. Focus your energies on a major plan, marshall your forces and attack. You can set right your place in the social world, eliminate negativity, and help others. Articulate past experiences. Release bound energy. The situation is already changing.

Changes to:
18. Corruption/Renovating
Corruption/Renovating describes your situation in terms of poison, putrefaction, black magic and the evil deeds done by parents that are manifested in their children. The way to deal with it is to help things rot away so that a new beginning can be found. You are facing something that has turned to poison. Search out the source so that new growth can begin.

This time must be carefully watched, it is when the new seed sprouts. It is the moment when we pass into action, cross the river, to deal with corruption and a new beginning.

Prepare the moment when the new time arrives and carefully watch over its first growth. It will take three days, a whole period of activity, before the seed of the new energy bursts open, and a similar period afterwards to stabilize it.

Rouse up the undeveloped potential outside your normal set of values in order to nurture the power to realise what you must do. A solid limit above is stopping the nourishment of new growth. This means corruption. This rotting away can be the beginning of a new spring. Make the effort. This is pleasing to the spirits. Through it they will give you success, effective power, and the capacity to bring the situation to maturity. You can regulate the world anew. Set out with a firm purpose. You will soon have enough to keep you busy. Watch carefully before and after the opening. You can bring things to a conclusion that results in a new beginning.

Rouse the sense of common needs, strengthening the power to renew Ancestral images. You are journeying into the world of the great symbols.


I hope this is helpful.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 03:42 PM
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1.  Interesting and very wise! Thank you.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 03:45 PM
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2. haven't thought about i Ching in a while -- good application
am i hearing this right -- seems to be saying the way is clear to act.
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 10:18 PM
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6. Yes, it does seem to be saying that the way is clear to act, meaning
Someone just might be paying attention!

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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 04:01 PM
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3. Back to basics.
"The way to deal with it is to help things rot away so that a new beginning can be found. You are facing something that has turned to poison. Search out the source so that new growth can begin."

All that we are ever required to do is to continue to seek and act where we are able.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 04:28 PM
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4. Very auspicious.
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 04:33 PM
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5. Which Translation R U Using?
I've always used the original Wilhelm-Baines (The Legge version sucks)
And I also use the R.L. Wing workbook.
I've been using them since 1975. It has really helped me out of a few "lost" places over the years.
Although I rarely ever throw it these days.

Wiley
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-31-04 10:20 PM
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7. It's a wonderful new translation by Stephen Karcher, originally published
in Denmark, I believe. But now you can get it here.

It is so cool, finally, after all these years of asking the Ching questions of a more personal nature, to be able to ask it about what it was originally written for, matters of state!
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