Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Election Fraud: Spooks, Saudis & Florida

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU
 
Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:57 PM
Original message
Election Fraud: Spooks, Saudis & Florida
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 01:01 PM by Al-CIAda
Election Fraud: Spooks, Saudis, Florida "The Covert Op That Ate The World"
January 4,2005 -Venice, FL. 
by Daniel Hopsicker

While both of the terrorist pilots who crashed into the World Trade Center were students at Venice Florida’s Huffman Aviation, the flight school's owner Wallace J. Hilliard, 72, of Naples, FL., was simultaneously pursuing a diplomatic opening to Fidel Castro’s Cuba.

But it's Hilliard’s involvement with ADNAN KHASHOGGI, arms merchant and international fugitive, which we find most intriguing. The SAUDI BILLIONAIRE’s name has now surfaced in connection with the ownership of two of the election service companies whose performance in the 2004 Presidential contest has inspired heated controversy.

http://www.madcowprod.com/
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:06 PM
Response to Original message
1. so Khashoggi has financial intrest in ES&S and Diebold?! n/t
I say again: no text.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
eowyn_of_rohan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #1
13. I know Saudis are involved in Accenture, and Accenture is a major
investor in Diebold and ES&S...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:06 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. Accenture/Author Anderson-
"seeker1" fr. RRMB-


Hmmm. A few tidbits from the article.

>>News reports stated Election.com was owned by an offshore Saudi front company in Bermuda consisting of five unnamed Saudi billionaires, until scrutiny forced a sale to Accenture, the remnants of the disgraced and disbanded Arthur Anderson, the accounting firm which made Enron possible.

Accenture was responsible for the 2004 "felon voter" purge here in Florida; Carl Hiaasen wrote a column about it many months ago and raised a stink. Of course, they went ahead and did it anyway. Soon there will be YANO accounting of how many people lost their right to vote because they were born on the same birthday as an ex-felon whose name looks "kinda similar" from Kentucky.

>>From a recent Federal lawsuit involving Khashoggi: “Ultimate Holdings Ltd., a Bermuda investment company owned by Adnan Khashoggi, the company's largest shareholder.

OK, google shows their fingers in a stock fraud scheme
http://www.bermanesq.com/Securities/CasePage.asp?caseid=392

Their main line of business (Genesis Intermedia)... making Internet mall kiosks... and crappy nfomercials
http://www.observer.com/pages/story.asp?ID=4640

I don't normally turn to NewsMax, but here's info on Elections.Com, supposedly linked to Adnan & some other Saudis... and accused of mischief:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2...29/174216.shtml
(this claims the Saudis "dumped" it but it looks like it was dumped to ... Accenture...)

Didn't Madsen say way back when to look at the Saudis & Enron? Accenture = Arthur Andersen.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:19 PM
Response to Original message
2. Veeeeeeery interesting
This further supports Madsen's storyline!!

I think that the Bush's' seem very upset lately (just an observation of mine)........Could it be because the fire is getting a bit too hot!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bmoney07 Donating Member (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #2
3. lets hope that Madsen has protection
I do not want him to end up dead like the long list of others.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:24 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. Yes, we need to say our prayers for him
I believe that he must be getting very close, and this is one of the reasons we have not heard much from him in the last couple of weeks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #2
7. Sniff, sniff
Stinkeroo kick
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:42 PM
Response to Reply #2
16. stay tuned nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:33 PM
Response to Original message
5. Khashoggi, Khashoggi, I know that name sounds familiar
Aha! Here it is. Google: Khashoggi, LePore

First entry:
http://slate.msn.com/id/1006609/
December 4, 2004
Did Adnan Khashoggi Throw the Election to Dubya?

Theresa LePore, designer of the 2000 butterfly ballot, worked in the 1980s as a flight attendant on planes owned by Khashoggi.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:50 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. Khashoggi owned a number of companies named “Triad.”
Cloak & Dagger in Green Bay

A world away in Packer Country, the story of Hilliard’s involvement with Khashoggi remains to be written.

But when Hilliard's home-town Green-Bay Press Gazette did a front page review of "Welcome to TerrorLand" they had noticed the same thing we did:

"Terrorists, drug runners, cover-ups, CIA, KGB and shady characters are the cloak-and-dagger kinds of elements that make for a riveting spy novel or action thriller. It's hardly the place you'd expect to find retired Green Bay businessman Wally J. Hilliard."

Was Adnan Khashoggi a principal in a company which has been counting the votes of American servicemen overseas? Answer: highly likely.

Both Election.com, and Triad, the election company cited for causing most of the problems in Ohio, should receive close scrutiny for evidence of Khashoggi involvement.

While there has been no suggestion of it anywhere in the media, the name “Triad” was used extensively by Khashoggi at exactly the same time (the early 80’s) and in exactly the same place (Palm Beach, Florida) as the “Triad Governmental Systems” involved in Ohio’s current election “difficulties.”

Khashoggi owned a number of companies named “Triad.”

Khashoggi owned “Triad International Marketing.”

“Northrop, the Los Angeles-based aircraft and electronics manufacturer, owes Triad International Marketing, S.A., a Liechtenstein corporation controlled by Khashoggi, $31 million in commissions on sales to the Saudi air force,” reported the L.A. Times on August 29, 1987.

Khashoggi owned “Triad America.”

“Creditors claim they are owed more than $100 million by Triad America and its subsidiaries… in Salt Lake City. Leonard Gumport, the court-appointed examiner, also is recommending that Triad America seek repayment of the $189.2 million loaned to companies controlled by the Khashoggis,” reported the Salt Lake Tribune.

From the company’s literature: “TRIAD Governmental Systems, Inc., is a nationally recognized corporation that is committed to providing quality, computer based systems for governmental voting units. Incorporated in 1982, TRIAD GSI was founded to provided quality support and services for Rapp Systems' Election products, with election experience that spans a quarter of a century.”

In 1982, Khashoggi owned Triad Farms in Kentucky.

In "The Blue Grass Conspiracy” by Sally Denton, she revealed that the large drug smuggling operation called “The Company,” headquarters were near Lexington, Kentucky, at Triad Farms, owned by Khashoggi.

That’s just about the same time (1983) that TRIAD Governmental Systems was founded…


“Lightning Strike, Computer Glitch... Whatever.”

We also discovered that a strikingly similar allegation of Triad employee tampering was lodged against the company all the way back in 1988…

According to Jackie Beville, a former employee of the Supervisor of Elections in Hillsborough County, Triad workers adjusted the software to clear up a ballot-counting problem shortly before the election, and the machinery should then have been recertified following the work.

When questioned, she was told that Triad workers were just fixing problems caused by a lightning strike.

Beville disputes that the weather had anything to do with the repair work.

But even it if did, "My question is, why was it a secret? The party chairmen were not called in. The canvassing board was not notified. The Division of Elections was not notified.

"Why was I forbidden to mention it? If the party chairmen and division had been notified, it may not have been a big deal. But it should have been made public. Everyone has a right to know."

Triad manufactures punch-card voting systems, and also wrote the computer program that tallied the punch-card votes cast in 41 Ohio counties last November. The company is owned by a man named Tod Rapp, who has donated money to the Republican Party as well as the election campaign of George W. Bush.

Given the broad distribution of Triad voting systems in Ohio, the allegations that have been leveled against this company strike to the heart of the assumed result of the 2004 election.

And not just Triad…

Election.com should be examined for the invisible hand of the Saudi financier and CIA “fixer.”

News reports stated Election.com was owned by an offshore Saudi front company in Bermuda consisting of five unnamed Saudi billionaires, until scrutiny forced a sale to Accenture, the remnants of the disgraced and disbanded Arthur Anderson, the accounting firm which made Enron possible.

From a recent Federal lawsuit involving Khashoggi: “Ultimate Holdings Ltd., a Bermuda investment company owned by Adnan Khashoggi, the company's largest shareholder.”

Election.com was also involved in the U.S.’s big democracy push into Eastern Europe…in Estonia, just a stolen vote’s throw away from the Ukraine.

Con't.-
http://www.madcowprod.com/01042004.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Greybnk48 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. CIA links to Green Bay area
This is a totally randon comment (I think, but nowdays who knows). If my memory serves me a CIA operative involved in Iran/Contra was outed (1980's)in the little village of Kaukauna, WI. about 20 miles south of Green Bay (and 10 mi. north of where I live). I think his name was Eugene Hassenfuss (sp?). We were all flabergasted at the time as were his neighbors and people who knew him.

Did the Green Bay Press Gazette mention this incident?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 06:31 PM
Response to Reply #12
22. There are lots of Rapps in Milwaukee n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:21 PM
Response to Reply #5
11. Glad you brought that up
I didn't feel like looking for the link!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #5
18. If you've ever met Lepore then you know she's not the
sharpest knive in the drawer
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:45 PM
Response to Original message
6. At the risk of sounding tin foil hatish, I wonder if Bush is the Saudi...
Candidate (reference to the Manchurian Candidate). I hear rumors that the Saudi Royal Family fears that it may be forced out of power in the next few years. If that is the case, the royals would want to make as much money as quickly as possible. What better way than to control the American presidency?

Ways in which Bush has helped the Saudis

1. He has kept oil prices sky high, the invasion of Iraq has benefited the Saudis more than anyone else.

2. He has bought them time. The Muslim extremists who might have been plotting to overthrow the Saudi royals are instead concentrating on fighting in Iraq and in fighting against the US government.

3. He is allowing the Saudis to invest in the US government and our Military Industrial Complex

4. Papa Bush, James Baker 3 etc all work for the Saudis

5. Bin Ladens family got flown to safety after 9-11. Bin Laden never got captured after 9-11.



In exchange for favors like these why shouldnt the Saudis attempt to help out their best buddy in DC by


1. Arranging 9-11 in order to prop up their president when he was tanking in the polls

2. Steal the election for him in 2004 when it was all but certain that Kerry was going to win.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:55 PM
Response to Reply #6
9. if yoou follow the money and the interest, then
this is where you end up.

no tin foil required.

good stuff, ya'll.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 02:18 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. link-
Saudi Entrepeneur Adnan Khashoggi Linked to 911 Terrorists (Part 1-7)
http://www.questionsquestions.net/docs04/khashoggi-911.html
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #6
19. You almost gotta think that Bin Laden has a point in respect to
his royal Saudi relatives
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
VTGold Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:30 PM
Response to Original message
15. Apparently Madam Butterfly (Theresa LePore) worked for Khashoggi
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:56 PM
Response to Original message
17. Somehow, everything always has a connection in FL!!
God I hate this state! There is so much crap going on all the time!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #17
20. Check out 'Welcome to Terrorland" by Daniel Hopsicker
Its a CIA hotbed, especially the Venice area.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 06:02 PM
Response to Original message
21. kick
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 07:10 PM
Response to Original message
23. More Fla-
Bush Vote Fraud Investigation Update
    by WAYNE MADSEN
Here is an update of where the investigation is heading. Many strings must be tied together but a clearer picture of how this Election Fraud 04 was done is beginning to emerge. The "follow the money trail" is leading to some interesting places.
Kay Stephenson, CEO of Datamaxx (she looks like her, but it's not Laura Bush) She is close to both Jeb Bush and Colin Powell. Powell has visited her a number of times in Tallahassee.
Before Datamaxx was formed, its contracts were about to go to Seisint, a Tampa company allegedly tied to mob money. It operates Accurint,and was recently bought out by Lexis.
Interesting note is that Datamaxx uses Accurint for its database.
Datamaxx has made a killing in law enforcement/homeland security contracts after 911.
Now people will wonder what this has to do with the election fraud. Here it is in a nutshell. These people, along with ChoicePoint of Dallas, TX, are personal data miners. And Datamaxx is tied to Ohio law enforcement data bases and communications.

full article at-
http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=31&contentid=1753
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 08:55 AM
Response to Original message
24. kick
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-05 11:37 AM
Response to Original message
25. kick
kick
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri May 03rd 2024, 05:29 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Election Reform Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC