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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:37 PM
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About the Warren co. lockdown....
There are several blatant things wrong with this if they knew in advance about the terror warning.

1. Why did they use this location for voting and not move it?

2. Why did they keep the polling place open for people all day until it closed knowing it was a target?

3. Why did they count the votes at a targeted place?

4. Why did they allow anyone to remain in the building besides the poll workers who counted the votes? As I understand it, the observers and media were allowed to stay in the building, but not allowed to observe the counting.

5. Why can't they name the official who alerted them?

6. The alert should have been in writing, where is the paper?

7. Why weren't the poll workers arrested and questioned about their illegal activity.
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yinkaafrica Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 03:48 PM
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1. They were too busy painting swastikas on the bathroom walls
Those are good questions. I think we aren't going to like the answers.
I only hope that we are working on uncovering the truth.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:19 PM
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2. Excellent questions,
and I'd like some answers!

This needs to be sent far and wide IMHO.
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zapped 1 Donating Member (331 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:29 PM
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3. kick
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:30 PM
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4. What, you want answers to your questions?
<sarcasm>

Thanks for the post!
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 06:16 PM
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5. Very good questions.
I have a feeling that the answer is similar to the one that goes with the question of why, on 9/11, Shrub sat in a classroom full of kids when he was supposedly a target.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 06:23 PM
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6. Outstanding questions several Ohio entities should answer
under oath! Would also ask:
Where is the protocol for following heightened alerts in Ohio?
In what areas was it not followed and why?
Who signed for the additional funds needed for the alert? OT etc...
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 06:25 PM
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7. They have named the officials
Warren County Emergency Services Director Frank Young said he had recommended increased security based on information received from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and the Federal Bureau of Investigation in recent weeks.

Commissioners made the security decisions in a closed-door meeting last week, but didn't publicize the restrictions that were made until after polls closed.

"If we were going to make a judgment, we wanted to err on the side of caution," Commissioner Pat South said Thursday. "... Hindsight is 20-20. There was never any intent to exclude the press.

http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/11/05/loc_warrenvote05.html


You just have to dig around for a little for their names.

Both of these people, Frank Young and Pat South should be brought in for questioning regarding this incident. Issuing a false terrorist alert and interfering with an election are criminal matters.


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FormerOstrich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 06:59 PM
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8. I have a theory....
These quotes are from a thread right before the Election (Election-Eve). As far as I could tell the topic was about an alleged plan to hack the election and disabling modems on the central tabulator.

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RedEagle (1000+ posts) Sun Oct-31-04 11:15 PM
133. Ummm...wouldn't turning off the modems be part and parcel of....
....homeland (I hate that word) security?

I mean, for secure elections in these troubled times, shouldn't this be a nationwide mandate?

Ya think?

Governors might be able to pull that off.

A state supreme court?

BevHarris (1000+ posts) Sun Oct-31-04 11:19 PM
134. Woh. Good point, Red.

Outstanding. We'll get on that one right away. That ties in with some other Homeland-securityish actions we're taking tomorrow.

Thought I'd let you know that the security folks agreed exactly with the input given by your significant other regarding the modems timing out.

I'll call you tomorrow. Or maybe you call me. It's getting a little insane around the office, with people coming and going and phone calls and so forth.

Bev

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God_bush_n_cheney (1000+ posts) Wed Nov-03-04 02:11 AM
221. There may have been a sting.

Folks, I've done investigative writing before, and this is the fourth time I've submitted information to law enforcement, and the third time to the FBI.

They never tell you what they're doing, or what leads they are investigating. You just report the thing, answer questions, sometimes repeatedly, and then you never hear from them again. A year later, you find out one of the people was arrested.

I got the clear impression yesterday that they would not recommend modems be turned off. Some of the questions were unusual for the typical FBI investigation, and I couldn't get a read on where they were going with it. When I asked if he was going to get the word out to disconnect modems, he said something like "I think I'm going to take this in a different direction.

That could mean just about anything. There were a couple other questions that made me wonder if a sting operation might be in play, with Black Box Voting inadvertently mucking around in it. Or, it could mean something else.

By the way, it is way too early to call the election. Damage gets done when people hurry along before any auditing takes place. We blanketed the country with very specific public records requests tonight, and will have much more information soon with which we can evaluate signs of electoral fraud.

The records requests went out to all counties in the U.S. that have computerized voting machines from any vendor. We'll match them up against other information to see what we can learn.

Bev


This sounds to me as if Bev discussed disconnecting the modems with the FBI. Could it be that somehow between BBV, FBI, and Election officials the message was mangled? It sounds feasible to me that Election officials were told to "lockdown" the modems and they heard "lockdown" for counting??? I don't believe anyone has really determined why Ohio took the action they did.........

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=1049517

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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 07:45 PM
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9. Madsen says this about that incident on 12/31
Bush Vote Fraud Investigation Update  (continued)
    by WAYNE MADSEN
Where did the Katherine Harris get the info to throw all those African American voters off the rolls in 2000 in Florida?
Public and commercial database records, everything from DMV files to education and insurance records. They red lined poor African American and working class white districts just like credit card and mortgage companies do.
And how did they know where to put only 2 voting machines in polling places in Ohio for use by over 3000 voters? Same process. They red lined those districts and knew where to put the Election Day squeeze on.
Fundie churches with names like the Abundant Love Tabernacle and Fellowship Worship Center were great places to pull off this fraud with Blackwell's election officials conspiring with local fundie preachers.
(Just a thought, if we have separation of church and state in this country, why the hell do we permit voting to take place in churches, especially where the preachers and lay leaders are corrupt and in on the fix?) Al Gore visited a Buddhist temple in California once and the right wing wanted him impeached!!
Datamaxx has Homeland Security contracts in Ohio, Florida, Iowa and West Virginia.
In Ohio, they can send out homeland security alerts using computer networks and wireless PDAs.
Guess what? All were swing states and in Warren County, Ohio an unofficial "threat" was "transmitted" to Election Board HQ on Nov. 2. FBI and police said it wasn't them.
Well, maybe it was Datamaxx using their retired FBI agents and cops (who were in cahoots with the fundies, Rapps of Triad, O'Dell at Diebold, Ahmanson and McCarthy Group of ES&S, and Blackwell and Taft GOP political machines in Columbus).

full article at:

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=31&contentid=1753&page=2
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