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Stop Shrub Donating Member (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 02:58 AM
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Lets get back to work...ideas?
Alright i have calmed down some, I have already called my Senator (Boxer) and thanked her profusely for her courage.

Next on my list i plan to call all other 43 democratic senators and let them know that i watched today and I am happy that they want reform but I still expect them to push for an investigation into what they commented on today. Additionally I will let them know that I am disappointed that none of them voted with Boxer and need to take a stand if they want to earn back my trust. I Will let every office know that they cannot take the middle ground anymore they must stand up and fight for their base like the repukes did this last election.

Next I am going to call all of the republican senators and pose as a republican concerned that they are not looking into these allegations letting my beloved president's legitimacy come into question. "I want them to investigate the Ohio allegations and prove once and for all that nothing took place!"

other ideas?

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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:04 AM
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1. short and long term ideas for election reform
Long term, but beginning tomorrow: 1) work to get local supervisors of elections elected in your county 2) also secretaries of state. It is those two offices that control elections. 3) put pressure on the federal representatives to insist on a verifiable paper trail and other key electoral improvements but don't let Republican intransigence stop us 4) sponsor state constitutional amendments and initiatives demanding a verifiable paper trail 5) work on making one person one vote a constitutional right (J Jackson Jr.'s point today). We can sponsor a fed constitutional amendment to promote that.
6) how about a people's cable news network? Funded with our money. Think of all the money we've contributed to elections and recounts. How about investing in a cable news network (if we can't get rich Dem's to buy one). Fair and Balanced, ya know.
Republicans use the Constitution to promote discrimination. Let us use it to promote democracy!


Short term: Thank the courageous Dem's, as you mentioned. But also contribute a little money to a fund we have to send roses to Boxer and Stubbs-Jones

Please contribute if you have not already done so. Thanks!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1474343
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:10 AM
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2. Positive Post
:hi:

I've been thanking the 31 Congress-members + Boxer.

And if this gets sorted out...

<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=260815#261378>

I'll send thanks to any one who "didn't vote" today. I'm thinking some Dems and even Repubs "stood down" today.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:14 AM
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3. disagree on the not voting
I think they should have the courage to stand up and be counted, one way or another. I was very disappointed that my congressman, Wexler, wasn't there. I also find it odd Kerry chose today to be in Iraq.
This was a momentous historical occasion. They should have been there and should have voted.
I wrote Wexler asking for an explanation of why he did not vote. I didn't chastise him. I'm hoping for a response.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:17 AM
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4. It's a chess game. n/t
Kerry in a Iraq is part of the set-up. Did you see the article, "Teflon Kerry"?

Still, letting all members know that the issue is important is the thing to do.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:51 PM
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5. Will you explain to me how that works?
Is it that they face repercussions for a yea vote and therefore don't vote at all? How can we tell abstentions from those not present?
Wexler and Kerry didn't vote, but neither did Mel Martinez. Those are obviously not all for the same reasons.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 03:42 PM
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7. Yes. A sculptor doesn't use a jack-hammer.
and your question, "How can we tell abstentions from those not present?" I'd like to know that, too. And especially, who Stayed Away On Purpose" (SAOP).
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:53 PM
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6. See this thread too!
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 05:56 PM
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8. What the Senators are waiting for is evidence. We have to be
the new Bob Woodwards, we have to come up with the data evidence.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:05 PM
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9. Election reforms like
instant runnof voting ballots and same-day primaries, publicly financed campaigns, election holidays, paper trails, hand counted ballots, and so forth.

No reason we can't each try to to see that these things get done in our own towns at least.

http://timeforachange.bluelemur.com/electionreform.htm#why
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moggie12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:16 PM
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12. Good for you, Green Party Voter
I think it's great that you're taking the time to suggest places where DUers can go to take practical, effective action. I put a post on the "General Discussion: Politics" category last night that gathered together all the practical-oriented posts I've seen in the past few days - it includes a link to one of your previous posts (where you suggested people visit "timefor a change"). Unfortunately, my post is pretty much sinking like a stone, but at least I tried.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 08:05 PM
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13. That's why I post the link in all of my posts. ;^) And yes, thank you for
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Jo March Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:06 PM
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10. YES! Join us over at this thread!
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:09 PM
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11. Here
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