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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:08 PM
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-20 Voting Facts You Should Know
Edited on Fri Jan-07-05 12:15 PM by MellowOne
From Almira:  20 voting facts you should know:  1. 80% of all
votes in America are counted by only two companies:  Diebold
and ES&S.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold 

2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or
oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry.
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0916-04.htm 
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html


3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S
are brothers. 
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/private_company.html 
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign
organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was
"committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to
the president next year."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/main632436.shtml

http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1647886 

5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of
ES&S. He became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S
machines.
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2004/03/03_200.html

http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/031004Fitrakis/031004fitrakis.html

6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the
Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of
ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=26

http://www.hillnews.com/news/012903/hagel.aspx 
http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/000896.php 

7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's
vice-presidential candidates.
http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689130.htm<br
/>
http://theindependent.com/stories/052700/new_hagel27.html

8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the
U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes.
http://www.essvote.com/HTML/about/about.html 
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper
trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify
that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what
was legitimately put in by voters.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm 
http://www.itworld.com/Tech/2987/041020evotestates/pfindex.html

10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket
machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a
paper trail.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm 
http://www.diebold.com/solutions/default.htm 

11. Diebold is based in Ohio. 
http://www.diebold.com/aboutus/ataglance/default.htm 

12. Diebold employed 5 convicted felons as senior managers and
developers to help write the central compiler computer code
that counted 50% of the votes in 30 states.
http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,61640,00.html 
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/301469.shtml 

13. Jeff Dean, Diebold's Senior Vice-President and senior
programmer on Diebold's central compiler code, was convicted
of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree.
http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how 
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf 

14. Diebold Senior Vice-President Jeff Dean was convicted of
planting back doors in his software and using a "high
degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a
period of 2 years.
http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how 
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf 

15. None of the international election observers were allowed
in the polls in Ohio.
http://www.globalexchange.org/update/press/2638.html 
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/10/26/loc_elexoh.html 

16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the
security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit
logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it! (See
the movie here
<http://blackboxvoting.org/baxter/baxterVPR.mov>.)
http://wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,63298,00.html 
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4874190 

17. 30% of all U.S. votes are carried out on unverifiable
touch screen voting machines with no paper trail.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/main632436.shtml

18. All -- not some -- but all the voting machine errors
detected and reported in Florida went in favor of Bush or
Republican candidates.
http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,65757,00.html 
http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOu
t.htm
http://www.rise4news.net/extravotes.html 
http://www.ilcaonline.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=
950
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00227.htm 

19. The governor of the state of Florida, Jeb Bush, is the
President's brother. 
http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/local/7628725.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10544-2004Oct29.html


20. Serious voting anomalies in Florida -- again always
favoring Bush -- have been mathematically demonstrated and
experts are recommending further investigation.
http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOu
t.htm
http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/policy/story/0,1080
1,97614,00.html
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/tens_of_thousands.html 
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm 
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/110904.html 
http://uscountvotes.org/ 


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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:11 PM
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1. Please repost in text format
so that we have the complete URLs. I would like to copy and paste this into an email to send out to some people I know.
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:37 PM
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2. Is that the way you wanted it?
I can post it both ways if you want.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:39 PM
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3. Both ways would be cool
But that's what I need to get it sent around. Thanks!
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:47 PM
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5. Here it is again
From Almira: 20 voting facts you should know: 1. 80% of all votes in America are counted by only two companies: Diebold and ES&S.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold

2. There is no federal agency with regulatory authority or oversight of the U.S. voting machine industry.
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0916-04.htm
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

3. The vice-president of Diebold and the president of ES&S are brothers.
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/private_company.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

4. The chairman and CEO of Diebold is a major Bush campaign organizer and donor who wrote in 2003 that he was "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/main632436.shtml
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1647886

5. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel used to be chairman of ES&S. He became Senator based on votes counted by ES&S machines.
http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2004/03/03_200.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/031004Fitrakis/031004fitrakis.html
6. Republican Senator Chuck Hagel, long-connected with the Bush family, was recently caught lying about his ownership of ES&S by the Senate Ethics Committee.
http://www.blackboxvoting.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=26
http://www.hillnews.com/news/012903/hagel.aspx
http://www.onlisareinsradar.com/archives/000896.php

7. Senator Chuck Hagel was on a short list of George W. Bush's
vice-presidential candidates.
http://www.businessweek.com/2000/00_28/b3689130.htm<br />
http://theindependent.com/stories/052700/new_hagel27.html

8. ES&S is the largest voting machine manufacturer in the U.S. and counts almost 60% of all U.S. votes.
http://www.essvote.com/HTML/about/about.html
http://www.onlinejournal.com/evoting/042804Landes/042804landes.html

9. Diebold's new touch screen voting machines have no paper trail of any votes. In other words, there is no way to verify that the data coming out of the machine is the same as what was legitimately put in by voters.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
http://www.itworld.com/Tech/2987/041020evotestates/pfindex.html
10. Diebold also makes ATMs, checkout scanners, and ticket machines, all of which log each transaction and can generate a paper trail.
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0225-05.htm
http://www.diebold.com/solutions/default.htm

11. Diebold is based in Ohio.
http://www.diebold.com/aboutus/ataglance/default.htm

12. Diebold employed 5 convicted felons as senior managers and developers to help write the central compiler computer code that counted 50% of the votes in 30 states.
http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,61640,00.html
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/301469.shtml

13. Jeff Dean, Diebold's Senior Vice-President and senior programmer on Diebold's central compiler code, was convicted of 23 counts of felony theft in the first degree.
http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf

14. Diebold Senior Vice-President Jeff Dean was convicted of planting back doors in his software and using a "high degree of sophistication" to evade detection over a period of 2 years.
http://www.chuckherrin.com/HackthevoteFAQ.htm#how
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/bbv_chapter-8.pdf

15. None of the international election observers were allowed in the polls in Ohio.
http://www.globalexchange.org/update/press/2638.html
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2004/10/26/loc_elexoh.html

16. California banned the use of Diebold machines because the security was so bad. Despite Diebold's claims that the audit logs could not be hacked, a chimpanzee was able to do it! (See the movie here
<http://blackboxvoting.org/baxter/baxterVPR.mov>.)
http://wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,63298,00.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4874190

17. 30% of all U.S. votes are carried out on unverifiable touch screen voting machines with no paper trail.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/07/28/sunday/main632436.shtml

18. All -- not some -- but all the voting machine errors detected and reported in Florida went in favor of Bush or Republican candidates.
http://www.wired.com/news/evote/0,2645,65757,00.html
http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOu
t.htm
http://www.rise4news.net/extravotes.html
http://www.ilcaonline.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=
950
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00227.htm

19. The governor of the state of Florida, Jeb Bush, is the President's brother.
http://www.tallahassee.com/mld/tallahassee/news/local/7628725.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10544-2004Oct29.html

20. Serious voting anomalies in Florida -- again always favoring Bush -- have been mathematically demonstrated and experts are recommending further investigation.
http://www.yuricareport.com/ElectionAftermath04/ThreeResearchStudiesBushIsOu
t.htm
http://www.computerworld.com/governmenttopics/government/policy/story/0,1080
1,97614,00.html
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/tens_of_thousands.html
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2004/110904.html
http://uscountvotes.org/

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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 12:46 PM
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4. Minus twenty facts? I'm wondering...
if those facts were counted on the voting machine in Youngstown, Ohio that tallied negative 25 million votes?!

Thanks for your post.
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