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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:38 PM
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Poll question: Will You Ever Vote Again if Zilch is Done about Paperless Voting Machines?
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:39 PM
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1. I'll vote anyway
just to keep my comscience quiet and fight to make sure it gets counted and that paperless machines are flushed.
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:40 PM
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2. THAT'S the way to get 'em back! Just don't vote!
:eyes:
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:44 PM
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3. I don't know yet, but I guarantee
that there will be more paperless touchscreen systems in place in 2006. Kerry and others can try to get rid of them, but the reality is they have no power and will not accomplish BBV reform via normal means.

That said, something certainly needs to be done.. By us. I'm open to suggestions, but currently the only solution I see is a second American revolution. Our founding documents require it.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:45 PM
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4. How would not voting help anything?
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:49 PM
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8. People often don't bother to vote under fascist regimes
Check out #14 of these "14 Identifying Characteristics of Fascism."

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm
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Cheswick2.0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:46 PM
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5. no, I will stand outside of myt polling place with a sign
saying the machine are rigged, don't bother voting.
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candice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:47 PM
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6. I'll never vote blackbox again, am requesting a permanent absentee
ballot. Half the voters in Silicon Valley vote absentee. Our mail service is more reliable than Broward (Dem) County, Fla. where 58,000 absentee ballots went missing. Most of us work closely with computers and know how easily our votes can be flipped. Heck, when California went blackbox at the primaries, 14,000-odd Kerry votes went to Gephardt.
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 01:48 PM
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7. not going to let them win like that
democracy won't be silenced by their actions...it might only have been momentarily quieted....
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complain jane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 02:04 PM
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9. Paperless voting = not voting at all anyway
So unless you're happy with black boxes, not voting is not a solution IMHO
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oneold1-4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 02:09 PM
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10. Millions more to vote!
Thousands in the state of OR often could not make it to the precinct every time to place a vote and soon let their registrations drop. When the state created the vote by mail, many came back to the registration and have often voted on items of great importance in large numbers. Last November they showed the power of the ballot with 80% registered voter turnout. Considering the number of registered who moved within, or out of the state, and of course some deaths, the actual percentage was likely far greater than 80%.
Give some thought to the means of reaching all who would vote individually and feel secure in their balloting, without some type of machine that could be programed and computerized with the chance a 10 year old hacking what ever numbers came into their intelligent heads.
Addressing the hundreds of methods of voting (obsolescent)is far more important, immediately, than changing SS!
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signmike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 02:15 PM
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11. What could possibly be the point? (without)
I'm tired of the repukes chanting "Ya can't prove it, ya can't prove it - nanner nanner nanner"
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 02:18 PM
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12. Bring a hammer to vote
and if you have amachine that doesn't have a paper ballot, vote with your hammer..

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Imnottelling Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 02:41 PM
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13. Protest
If no changes are made then I believe it would be a fitting protest to have many millions of Democrats not vote. The protest would be to not take part in a fraudelent process.

Imagine, ~120,000,000 voters in 2004 and ~60 million in 2008 with the results of 95% GOP 5% Dem (it would be better if it were 100% GOP). That would a strong statement...you know...sort of a "tune in and drop out" sort of movement. That kind of result would invalidate the whole process so that some serious reform could be undertaken.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:36 PM
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14. If we decide not to vote we may as well give up
Why make it easy for them. They stole approximately 6 million votes this election. If we win by 7 million maybe we can beat them even if we don't get the election reform we need. We should fight for election reform, but never stop voting.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:38 PM
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15. Does your poll have a paper trail?
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 03:45 PM
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16. It's all over except for the counting
if you know what I mean.
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-07-05 05:15 PM
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17. Lol. Your thread has been targeted for terrorism. Level 10
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