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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:20 PM
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Letter to John Kerry (namechecks DU-ers among others!)
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:27 PM
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1. great and plaintiff article
thanks for posting it.
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:57 PM
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5. Or maybe even plaintive
:evilgrin:

Sorry, couldn't help myself. That was a cute error. I usually don't bother people about that sort of stuff (not exactly living glasshouse-free and all that).
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:03 PM
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10. The old lawyer in me ....
......... saw that and smiled.

The writer in me let it go, because everyone's an editor when you're a writer, and it's a pain in the ass.

Nice catch, though.............. :)
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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:43 PM
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11. oh come on
I've been up since 3:00. What do you expect?. . .one of my son's teachers called the other evening to say how well he was doing in class. I was taking a well deserved nap. As she was pontificating about how well he was doing in class, I implored of the woman, "Why are you calling me at 5:30 in the morning. . .?" She said, "It's 5:30 in the evening." I said. "oh. . . " So dumb.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:18 AM
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15. awwwww
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:44 PM
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2. Sums my feelings up to a T
Everyone at DU should read this.
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BernieBear Donating Member (350 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:58 PM
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6. Really Great Letter Sheila Thanks!! n/m
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:50 PM
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3. This is so powerful! n/t
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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 09:55 PM
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4. Ouch
That hurt to read. Thank you for posting the link.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:20 AM
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18. yeah, it really did hurt to read. because it's so true.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:02 PM
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7. Yes Duers
don't forget sister site smirkingchimp.com
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:02 PM
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8. Oh, you impatient people .........
Why does anyone presume that John Kerry should be out in public, telling everyone what he plans to do? Why do you presume that, because you've not been told about what's going on, that nothing is going on?

I'm a confirmed atheist, but you're forcing me to drag out this quote:

"Oh, ye of little faith."

I keep posting on DU that it's not over yet. It's not over until the electoral college meets on December 13 and casts the votes.

The ignorance of the process is what I find repugnant in this woman's article. If she understood the electoral process, perhaps she wouldn't be so melodramatic about John Kerry. If she took the time to understand history, she might not sound so righteously smug and embarrassingly uninformed.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:19 AM
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16. well, he CONCEDED before the votes were counted
leaving everyone else to pick up the mess, depriving us of hope and morale.

Why should I have faith in him? Sorry, I base my evaluations on actions.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 04:36 PM
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25. Concessions are meaningless
Didn't you ever read your Constitution? There is absolutely no legal weight to a concession speech; it's purely symbolic, and means nothing.

Don't you remember when Gore withdrew his concession in 2000?

I think you need to read a little bit about how government works, and then you might not get so upset. It's still wide-open, by the way, because the electoral college - which meets, as mandated by that very same Constitution of the United States, on the first Monday after the second Wednesday of December, which, this year, is December 13 - hasn't yet cast their votes.

It really is a drag, watching all these frustrated and angry words from people who are somehow feeling personally betrayed, when, in fact, Kerry's concession speech might have been a brilliant tactical move.

It's not over. That's all.
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fwiff Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:03 PM
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9. Great letter! Kick. n/t
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99Pancakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 10:45 PM
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12. Write to JF Kerry at
http://kerry.senate.gov/text/contact/email.html

Tell him what you think and feel. He'll we arriving back to check his Senate mail shortly. He's all fired up to fight * they say. Let him know he hasn't lost the Prez seat yet....Bev is on the way!
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:03 PM
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14. Start a thread just on this - I think a lot of people want to tell him
how they feel and to fight.
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:20 AM
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17. who says he will be all fired up to fight *??
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-04 11:01 PM
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13. That's a Brilliant letter from Sheila Samples
to John Kerry..I hope he reads it and learns..I can't believe this happened.

I keep hoping it's all a ruse and he didn't just show up with "the white flag" and tears in his eyes" to surrender our Democracy!
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:27 AM
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19. What is worse ....
Putting the U.S. through a challenge and recount, or putting the
world through another four years of Bush?
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:29 AM
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20. yeah REALLY
esp. with his pathetic line about begining healing. WHAT healing? Is he crazy? "oh, you f*cked us twice now. Okay, let's heal!"
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:38 AM
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21. that "healing" line was like....
pouring acid in the wound. :(
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nodehopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:42 AM
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22. I was going to say a slap in the face but yours works too
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Chimpanzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:43 AM
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23. Hey - shouldn't we be doing this?????
BREAKING! KERRY TO UNCONCEDE IF THERE IS EVIDENCE OF FRAUD

FORWARD TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW! EMAIL FROM DC LAWYER CYNTHIA BUTLER

I am angry and getting emails and recrimination from people wondering why KERRY just caved and is not fighting this before the final count in Ohio, before any of the fraud was challenged, before New Mexico and Iowa even came in.

There is widespread feeling that he did not lose the election and that it was taken from him.
There is enough here to warrant investigation and enough to challenge the results. It's coming from all corners.

I understand that Kerry has until the official count certification in Ohio to Un-Concede, which is several days from now.

Anyone who thinks that he should unconcede should give reasons why -- whatever they noticed, particularly in Red Republican Governed States using electronic machines -- and send them directly to Cameron KERRY, John Kerry's
brother at his law firm at the address CKerry@Mintz.com

They should inform us if they were not allowed to vote provisionally (for whatever reason --
they lost forms, ran out of forms, etc.) I personally witnessed a number of things as I reported in Texas with the DCCC. (Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee).

If you know anyone in particular in Ohio who tried to vote and was turned away at the polls please get their information and notify the campaign. They should be notified if they experienced lines longer than four hours --particularly elderly or infirm people (we call that torture when they do it to political prisoners).

They should be notified if people were told, as has been reported, that due to too many people showing up in African American precincts, particularly in Ohio where there were too few booths (some only had two or three for the entire precinct) and told because of heavy turnout they could vote on Wednesday.

If the numbers of these sorts of incidents create a percentage margin that exceeds the margin of victory -- Un-Concession has to be made to challenge the count.

If people wanted to and tried to vote and were prevented or actively discouraged from doing so, that is a Civil Rights matter, and must be dealt
with in terms of the ultimate count.

This is the last email that I am writing on this subject in this venue. I am taking it up in other venues.

Please pass this along to your listserves so that we may make Democracy Work in America. We are not a country where he who cheats best wins.

Cynthia L. Butler
BUTLER LAW FIRM, P.C.
1717 K St. NW, Suite 600
Washington, DC 20036

We have the POWER to take our country BACK!
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 11:24 AM
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24.  Great letter, Sheila!
:thumbsup:

I went to my usual exercise class at the Y on the morning of November 3, and I've never seen that normally upbeat and lively bunch of people so downcast. An amazing percentage of them (including me) had spent all day Tuesday door-knocking and phoning and poll watching. Our only hope was that Kerry would fight this.

Then he didn't. :-(
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