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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:47 AM
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5 Weeks to "Just Say NO"

Election 2004 Ernest Partridge: 'Do we still have a democracy?'

By Ernest Partridge, The Crisis Papers

The issue of the reliability of paperless electronic voting is fundamentally misconceived: The citizen is not obligated to prove that his ballot is secure; instead, the citizen has a right to be confident that his vote will be counted, as he cast it. And for reasons acknowledged by both the critics and defenders of "e-voting," the American citizen who votes with these machines, is denied this fundamental right. Was the 2004 Presidential election "fixed"?

The question is virtually absent in the mainstream, corporate media, as if it is at least "impolite" and at worst paranoid and delusional even to ask it.. The final totals of this election are an undisputed "given," and media discussion follows from this hard-core assumption. The issue of the validity of the final election returns, for the nation or for pivotal states such as Florida and Ohio, is rarely raised in the mainstream media.



Meanwhile, in "the internets" speculation as to the fairness and validity of the "official" vote count is active and increasing. Bev Harris' BlackBoxVoting.org has filed the most extensive Freedom of Information action in history, in an attempt to prove that "fraud took place in the 2004 election through electronic voting machines. And Greg Palast has proclaimed straight-out that, had all the votes been counted, John Kerry would have won Ohio, Florida, and therefore the election.
It's my job to tell you who got the most votes in the deciding states. Tuesday, in Ohio and New Mexico, it was John Kerry.

Most voters in Ohio thought they were voting for Kerry. At 1:05 a.m. Wednesday morning, CNN's exit poll showed Kerry beating Bush among Ohio women by 53 percent to 47 percent. The exit polls were later combined with -- and therefore contaminated by -- the tabulated results, ultimately becoming a mirror of the apparent actual vote. Kerry also defeated Bush among Ohio's male voters 51 percent to 49 percent. Unless a third gender voted in Ohio, Kerry took the state.

So what's going on here? Answer: the exit polls are accurate. Pollsters ask, "Who did you vote for?" Unfortunately, they don't ask the crucial, question, "Was your vote counted?" The voters don't know. Thom Hartmann reports:
The hot story in the Blogosphere is that the "erroneous" exit polls that showed Kerry carrying Florida and Ohio (among other states) weren't erroneous at all - it was the numbers produced by paperless voting machines that were wrong, and Kerry actually won... loggers and investigative reporters are discovering an odd discrepancy in exit polls being largely accurate in paper-ballot states and oddly inaccurate in touch-screen electronic voting states Even raw voter analyses are showing extreme oddities in touch-screen-run Florida, and eagle-eyed bloggers are finding that news organizations are retroactively altering their exit polls to coincide with what the machines ultimately said. Mark Crispin Miller writes:
his election was definitely rigged. I have no doubt about it. It's a statistical impossibility that Bush got 8 million more votes than he got last time. In 2000, he got 15 million votes from right-wing Christians, and there are approximately 19 million of them in the country. They were eager to get the other 4 million. That was pretty much Karl Rove's strategy to get Bush elected.

But given Bush's low popularity ratings and the enormous number of new voters -- who skewed Democratic -- there is no way in the world that Bush got 8 million more votes this time. I think it had a lot to do with the electronic voting machines. Those machines are completely untrustworthy, and that's why the Republicans use them. And finally,Mike Whitney
ens of thousands of people who lined up for up to four hours at a time in Ohio and Florida to have their vote counted, were not standing there to endorse the aggression and suicidal policies of the current administration...

The unprecedented high turnout coupled with new registrations (that were overwhelmingly in favor of John Kerry) suggest that there was foul play at the voting booths....

The fact of the matter is (as every reasonable person who hasn't been hoodwinked by the pageantry of election night fraud realizes) that the election was stolen again in full view of the American public. The Republican owned voting machines prevailed over exit poll projections and the will of the American people. Of course, the Republicans and the Bush Administration deny explicitly, and the media deny implicitly (by ignoring the story), that there was any fraud whatever in the election. The defenders reply, correctly, that the critics of the paperless voting machines cannot prove their charges. The machines yield no direct evidence of the alleged vote tampering. Instead, the critics must rely on circumstantial and statistical evidence. (In my next essay, I will outline the case for a fraudulent election. But that is not the objective here).

The defenders' response is correct: the machines produce no independent paper record of the voting, and the source codes that transmit and record the voters' selections are secret and "proprietary" - the property of the companies that build the machines and write the software codes. These are the simple facts, that both sides will agree to.

The problem for the defenders of the machine is that while the critics can not directly prove vote tampering, for the very same reasons, election officials can not prove that the votes were cast and recorded as the voters intended.

So it comes down to this. How can we know that the software codes were not written to deliberately "throw" an election? The answer of the manufacturers, code writers and election officials is simple: "trust us." Given the circumstances just presented, it is the only answer that they can give.

In a free society, where the legitimacy of the government must reside in the consent of the governed, "trust us" is a totally unacceptable response to the citizen's demand for proof of the integrity of his vote. It is doubly unacceptable, when "trust us" is uttered by an employee of a private company, the officers of which have announced their support of a political party and of candidates whose names appear on the ballot.

And that is exactly the condition in which we find ourselves in the Presidential election of 2004.

Herein, as all too few observers have noticed, is the crux of this issue: it is not the ability of the critics to prove electoral fraud, but rather the inability of the manufacturers and software programmers to prove electoral integrity.

Let us state the fundamental moral and political issue clearly and emphatically:
The citizen has no obligation to prove that his ballot is secure; the citizen has a right to be confident that his vote will be counted, as he cast it. And it is the solemn obligation of the government to secure that right. The right of the citizen to a secure ballot is the foundation of a democratic society and the guarantee that the government rules with the consent of the governed. If that right has been violated by supporters and/or agents of the government, that government has no legitimacy.

We do not know if Election 2004 was fraudulent. But equally important, the paperless machines have made it impossible to verify that it was not fraudulent. And it is the inalienable right of a free people that their franchise be fair, accurate, transparent, and verifiable.

This, at least, we can affirm: there are disquieting indications that this Presidential election, like the previous, was a fraud and that in a fair election, John Kerry would now be the President-elect.

It is unlikely that the media will raise the issue and that there will be a thoroughgoing investigation of this election. Not unless an outraged public demands such an investigation. And so, if John Kerry was fraudulently deprived of his office, and a possible majority of American voters denied the election victory that they had earned, then that crime can not be rectified after December 12, when the Electoral College finalizes the election. If the case is to be made, and if Kerry and Edwards are to assume their fairly won offices, this must be accomplished in a mere five weeks. It is in the hands of the people.

Even Kerry supporters should hope that the election was fair, for if it was not, American Democracy is dead today, even though few Americans are willing even to contemplate that possibility. If in fact the election was rigged, and if nothing is to be done to restore the integrity of the ballot, then the Democrats might just as well save their time and money and not bother to contest the next mid-term election in 2006 and the Presidential election of 2008. The outcome of these elections will be pre-determined, as was the election just completed. The rule of the Republican party will be permanent, and independent of the consent of the governed.

And that precisely defines a tyranny.

Author's Note: This essay is in the public domain. I have decided not to copyright it order to encourage distribution. Please link, download, copy, and distribute at will. But if you do, please indicate author, source (The Crisis Papers) and URL (www.crisispapers.org/essays/democracy.htm). An unaltered copy of this page will supply all three.

Dr. Ernest Partridge is a consultant, writer and lecturer in the field of Environmental Ethics and Public Policy. He publishes the website, "The Online Gadfly" (www.igc.org/gadfly) and co-edits the progressive website, "The Crisis Papers" (www.crisispapers.org).

Reprinted from The Crisis Papers:
http://www.crisispapers.org/essays/democracy.htm

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:50 AM
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 07:56 AM
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2. Somewhere there is a programmer or a group of them
who wrote the code. All we need to do is to identify them.
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:09 AM
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3. And that is the Repugs dream, unfortunately getting close to reality:
"If in fact the election was rigged, and if nothing is to be done to restore the integrity of the ballot, then the Democrats might just as well save their time and money and not bother to contest the next mid-term election in 2006 and the Presidential election of 2008. The outcome of these elections will be pre-determined, as was the election just completed. The rule of the Republican party will be permanent, and independent of the consent of the governed."
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 08:25 AM
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4. The massive scale this election was stolen makes
Florida 2000 look like a misdemeanor.
This is a wide spread fraud, not just one state.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 09:49 AM
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5. NO


:hi:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 12:43 PM
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6. If a VERY LARGE,
Vocal, angry enough to be heard around the world and DETERMINED MASS OF AMERICAN CITIZENS is not assembled IMMDIATEY... Oh, FUCK THAT THOUGHT! Scream your heads off, dear ones! PLEASE!!! NOW!!!

This is NOT a test. I repeat, THIS IS NOT A TEST.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 12:54 PM
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8. Petition to Congress requesting an investigation Presidential Election
To: United States Congress
TO: All members of the Congress of the United States of America; all Senators and Members of the House of Representatives

A Petition to immediately and without delay open a joint investigation into potential wrongdoing in the Presidential Election of 2004, specifically to investigate the potential of voting machine manipulation or purposeful malfunction, especially electronic voting machines manufactured and supplied by Diebold, Inc.; Electronic Systems & Software (ES & S); Sequoia Voting Systems, and others, and also to identify and investigate all allegations of improper conduct by election officials, workers, observers, challengers and operatives and employees of both major parties concerning the voting process including intimidation, dissemination of improper information, manipulation of registration records, improper handling of actual voting ballots and, in general, any and all potential improprieties which could have led to improper or inaccurate election results.

Such inquiries should not be limited to any particular state, precinct or district but strive to examine the voting process in any and all areas in which there is even the slightest indication of impropriety, but especially in the states of Florida, Ohio, Georgia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia, Nevada, New Mexico, Iowa, Arkansas, Missouri, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Minnesota, Texas and New Hampshire, and not limit such investigation, and expand such investigations to cover Senatorial races as well, especially those in Kentucky, Florida and South Dakota.

We, the undersigned, request that our elected representatives act in accordance with the Constitution of the United States of America in a legal, impartial and expedient manner for an open hearing before the people of the United States and if such wrongdoing, illegal practices, manipulation of voting records or processes is of such a nature to indicate egregious or extensive tampering, alteration or misappropriation of the voting process that the violators be brought to justice and remedies, potentially including a nationwide audit, recall, recount or new election be imposed by your bodies.

We feel it is our patriotic duty to request such action from you, our elected officials, and your duty to respond in a responsible manner.

Sincerely,


http://www.petitiononline.com/uselect/petition.html
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 02:35 PM
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11.  Liberty or Death Fighting the Stolen Election of 2004
A Sit-In of Massive Proportions

http://www.freewebs.com/libertyordeath/index.htm


Time has come today
Young hearts can go their way
Can't put it off another day
I don't care what others say
They say we don't listen anyway
Time has come today


The rules have changed today
I have no place to stay
I'm thinking about the subway
My love has flown away
My tears have come and gone
Oh my Lord, I have to roam
I have no home
I have no home

Now the time has come
There's no place to run
I might get burned up by the sun
But I had my fun
I've been loved and put aside
I've been crushed by the tumbling tide
And my soul has been psychedelicized

Time
Now the time has come
There are things to realize
Time has come today
Time has come today

Time

Oh
Now the time has come
There's no place to run
I might get burned up by the sun
But I had my fun
I've been loved and put aside
I've been crushed by tumbling tide
And my soul has been psychedelicized

Time
Now the time has come
There are things to realize
Time has come today
Time has come today

Time

--The Chambers Brothers
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scottxyz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 12:49 PM
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7. Also, we need something to JUST SAY YES TO - a legitimate re-vote by Dec12
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 12:49 PM by scottxyz
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 12:58 PM
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9. These folks planning a massive sit-in in Columbus, OH
A Sit-In of Massive Proportions
http://www.freewebs.com/libertyordeath/index.htm

Email addys at link to let them know if you're interested.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 01:02 PM
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10. even in the LA Times I have not seen any
articles no matter how small regarding election fraud or any concern by anybody, including so called left wing nuts....completely devoid of speculative articles.

Msongs
liberal t shirts
www.msongs.com/political-shirts.htm
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 03:09 PM
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12. Suffering from a
blackout?
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 03:21 PM
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13. Here ya go - Ohio Is Set to Reckon With Outstanding Ballots
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na...

Ohio Is Set to Reckon With Outstanding Ballots
Experts and Kerry campaign officials agree provisional and overseas absentee votes won't change outcome, but the count draws scrutiny.
By Ralph Vartabedian and Henry Weinstein
Times Staff Writers

November 9, 2004

<snip>Nonetheless despite it being unlikely state winner will change), the Ohio count is attracting scrutiny by groups who say the election was tainted and that voting equipment in Ohio, Florida, South Carolina and elsewhere was defective. On Friday, three congressional Democrats asked for a federal investigation.

Since the election, Internet sites and political blogs have buzzed with speculation that the vote was manipulated. "Evidence mounts that the vote may have been hacked," reads the title of one widely circulated Web offering.<snip>

If 10% of the provisional ballots were rejected, Kerry would need to get 97.6% of those remaining to overcome Bush's lead.<snip>

Counting of the provisional ballots is expected to begin Saturday, although state law allows counties to delay the canvass until Nov. 18, said James Lee, Secretary of State spokesman. Ohio, however, faces a Dec. 7 deadline to finish this process so that its electors can cast their electoral college votes Dec. 13.<snip>

Based on reports that Dill's organization — Verified Voting.org — has received, one precinct in Youngstown, Ohio, recorded a negative 25 million votes, which was discarded from official results. And it was widely reported after Nov. 2 that a North Carolina precinct lost 4,000 votes when a recording device used up all its memory but voters continued to cast ballots on the machine.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 03:22 PM
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14. a little more
But irregularities and problems have cropped up nonetheless.

On Friday, officials in Franklin County — which includes state capital Columbus — acknowledged that they may have improperly counted votes for Bush because of a touch-screen voting system malfunction. A precinct in the county reported that a 4,000-vote margin won by Bush appeared to exceed the number of registered voters.

The touch-screen system in Franklin County is among the oldest and least reliable electronic voting machines in use, said David Dill, a Stanford University computer expert.

Asked how an electronic voting machine could run up nearly 4,000 extra votes, Dill said a variety of factors, including an internal misalignment or static electricity, could cause such an error.

"The point is that these machines are nowhere near reliable enough to depend on," Dill said.

http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na...
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 04:29 PM
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15. "The point is that these machines are nowhere near reliable enough
Edited on Tue Nov-09-04 04:31 PM by Karenina
to depend on," Dill said.

Well, DUH!!! :silly: :silly: :silly:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-04 10:13 PM
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16. Anyone else smelling
the stench of FRAUD???
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