Does Letterman suspect fraud?

[Nightjock]

In his "Top Ten Things Overheard at the White House Easter Egg Hunt" last night one was

"I found thousands of votes for Kerry."

There was scattered laughs
and scattered applause....

I know. It means little. In fact it probably means nothing. I just like any glimmer of the truth coming out.

[whistle]

1. Good joke, but I'll bet it's true, especially if the easter egg hunt...

...took place in KKKarl Rove's office.

[KT2000]

2. He did two jokes

on the missing Ohio votes - one in his monologue and the other in the top ten. I would say that he smells a rat.
And he has mentioned this beofre in his jokes.

[Kurovski]

3. I heard that. I think Letterman does believe it was

"tampered" with, but the joke does work both ways.

You can also laugh at those who "think" the election was stolen. A "Nelson" moment, as it were.

For the record: It was stolen.

[TwentyFive]

4. Election fraud. Everybody knows it, but why nobody is doing anything

Election 2004 is like the deranged Aunt that lives in the basement. Everybody knows she is there, but for some reason, nobody on the Left is doing anything about it. So, election fraud gets talked about like it is somehow supposed to happen.

Creepy.

[Carolab]

14. I agree. Whenever you bring it up, except among us true believers,

people kind of glaze over, and even though they may agree that something is "fishy" they don't seem to want to engage in in-depth discussion about it with you. It's like they just can't or don't want to believe it's true, and yet somehow, in their guts, they KNOW IT IS.

[NationalEnquirer]

20. I know the feeling!

I spent 4 DUless weeks.
Talking to family, friends, people at work.
All of them thought I was a loon.
They just weren't interested, because they know I am biased.
They think I am just a sore looser, even the Democrats.
I got so depressed.
I was sick I tell you, sick.
Coming back here makes me feel a bit better BUT...

I know that "out there", hardly anyone believes enough to do anything about it.

Thank God for you people!
I'd be lost without ya!

[pbartch]

23. no one is doing anything about it......

The Repukes are in charge because they were given the presidency by the Supremes.

The repukes will be in charge until some of them die (natural causes, accidents or whatever), are impeached or other people are voted in.

[Writer]

5. I think...

it was just a joke and that's all.

[mattclearing]

6. Care to elaborate?

And also, welcome to DU! :hi:

[applegrove]

7. He is making fun of the fact that some people think the fraud was

in the election. The fraud is in fact in the hearts of many Americans as they were encouraged to vote against their own best interests and for the interests of a narrow elite.

Yes - sure there are election problems..the biggest one I see is that in Florida (?) the black community had its lists vetted for felons but the Hispanic community not so much. There does need to be electoral reform and I think all Democrats see that.

But thinking the fraud is a little and as local as 5000 votes stolen by a machine (no proof exists) is wishful thinking. That is the easy outcome. If there is machine fraud then Bush can be kicked out right away. The harsher truth is that he & his political operatives tricked and tribalized American into putting him in power for 4 more years.

The fraud being in the 'hearts' of Americans is a much more serious problem. You take the easy way out and stay in denial of the trauma that 1)Bush & his ilk are creeps and he & 2)his sociopathic friends want to destroy your world and 3)they got re-elected. You drop the last part of that statement to make yourself feel better.

Letterman was making fun of the fact that you cannot quite accept the whole of it. I know it is hard. Grieving and going past denial, anger...etc will allow you to accept it all.

[KaliTracy]

10. ummm. know I can't change your mind, but when over 95% of anomalies

favor Bush, something is fishy.

See Report about Ohio by the Democratic House Judiciary Committee
Preserving Democracy: What went wrong in Ohio
http://www.house.gov/judiciary_democrats/ohiostatusrept1505.pdf

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[applegrove]

15. Make no mistake they mess with the intension of every law. There

needs to be massive electoral reform. No doubt.

But we need to step back and not be so focused on details. The big picture says that Bush & his cabal of sociopaths will mess with the intent of every law - to get away with their evil games.

Step back and look at the big picture. Don't get sucked into every little funny detail. Look at the overall patterns. Those are the things we have to defeat.

Tis hard. But you have to accept that he will be in power for 4 more years and that we will have to fight really hard to keep the USA from going tribal.

[LatePeriduct]

11. Oh really is that so.

"But thinking the fraud is a little and as local as 5000 votes stolen by a machine (no proof exists) is wishful thinking."

http://www.flcv.com/dadeo.html

No proof exists of machine fraud in the physical sense does it? Then why is it all over the EIRS reporting database?

Think again, the proof is out there.

[bettyellen]

18. knowing fraud happened doesn't make you feel any better.

knowing how easy it was to pull off, is fucking scary as a matter of fact.

[fooj]

8. IMO- Letterman thinks Shrub is nothing but a big joke!

I wouldn't be surprised if Dave DOES suspect that the election was "rigged"!

Peace!

[FogerRox]

9. hmmm Dave has Howard Stern on to talk about Howard going to Sat radio

My guess is Letterman is actually TIA

[Senator]

12. What Dave "believes" means little .... the joke means MUCH

It means that stolen elections are still very much in the public mind. Regardless of the Euphemedia blackout.

Not too surprising, considering Blackwell's long-avoided testilying and the Carter/Baker-Bot Whitewasher Commission coming in close succession. But those events themselves are indications of exactly the same thing.

It could even be that the Shaivo case is echoing the Coup of 2000 in people's guts. What with the neofascists completely disregarding the law, courts, and people of Florida to force the outcome their big donors demand (again).

The truth is like of force of nature. And as long as we all keeping telling it, loudly, at every opportunity we can find or manufacture, more and more people will be convinced by it.

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[Carolab]

13. Right. I was solicited for donations for Patty Wetterling yesterday and

the solicitor stated "and you know she really needs your help because those Republicans will do anything they can to take Senator Dayton's seat". I then took the opportunity to tell the lady that I would gladly donate because I felt Patty was robbed in her race against Mark Kennedy. I then went on to tell her how I came to believe this and that I had personally phoned Patty to explain it to her, as well as contacting my state attorney general and Senator Dayton, whom Patty hopes to replace. I explained how since we use optical scan ballots and there have been "shenanigans" all over the country involving the tabulators, this needs to be addressed before 2006. She told me that she had heard "the same things" from at least three other people whom she called for donations! So people are talking about it. I concluded by saying that I would hope to see at least ONE candidate who would speak out on the subject of election reform, and that Patty would be perfect for that.

[JoAnnSimon]

16. 2000 Florida/Schiavo

Senator--

"It could even be that the Shaivo case is echoing the Coup of 2000 in people's guts. What with the neofascists completely disregarding the law, courts, and people of Florida to force the outcome their big donors demand (again)."

I've been thinking the same thing. The similarities between the methods used in both cases inevitably tie them together in many voters' minds--except that this time the Supremes at least had the sense to stay out of it. 'once burned, twice shy'

I also think many Americans are subconsciously afraid to admit to themselves that elections could be stolen in this country--we're supposed to be the shining emblem of Democracy, aren't we? I think many, too, have absorbed the Bush inspired threat against dissenters, and are afraid to speak out. This is another reason that Civics classes should be put back in our national educational ciriculum and made a mandetory study course.

[FogerRox]

17. I think Letterman is really TIA--->wink<

[kster]

19. On target......n/t

[autorank]

21. It means a lot. When there is a hook for this story, someone with

an easily understandable and proven indicator that it was stolen, watch Letterman. He'll go nuts with it. He's a relentless guy and shared Johnny Carson's politics, which were very left. Remember, Carson was writing monologue jokes that just slammed Bush for months.

Give Dave an excuse. Make Daves day!

[Blue_In_AK]

22. I remember him saying something after the election

also that made me think he was on to the fraud.