Question...about the LaRouche people

[Independent_Liberal]

Hi,

I seem to remember somebody in this forum saying they got a phonecall from the LaRouche group. They said they were bringing Bush down by roadblocking the SS privatization scam. They were also working in the election fraud movement as well.

They have a magazine you can subscribe to called Executive Intelligence Review.

I'm a little bit leary about it, because some of you said they were a cult.

If any of you have any information or suggestions on this, please let me know.

Thanks

[El Supremo]

1. I had that magazine passed out to me at a war protest.

I don't know who he is either. The magazine was one very long argument against SS privatization.

[11cents]

2. Definitely a cult

A political cult, which has sometimes appeared rightist and sometimes leftist, depending on the impulses and interests of Lyndon LaRouche. In the 70s, they masqueraded as a Marxist "New Left" party while specializing in physically assaulting members of other parties. In the 80's, LaRouche claimed to be in with the Reagan WH, and there's some evidence that he had a toehold there. He's very anti-Bush, probably because it was the Justice Dept. of the Bush Sr. administration that put him in prison on fraud charges. Very anti-environmentalist, too.

[flyingfysh]

3. the LaRouche group are certifiable loonies

They have taken a number of wacko positions in the past, and LaRouche himself was in prison for something or other.

They may be right about SS privatization being bad, but remember: even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

[salin]

11. Did time for defrauding folks donating to his political campaign

something about taking the credit card numbers... and using them for more than the initial donations...

Of course "he was framed! because he was such a threat as a political opponent!" are the defenders cry... such a threat - been running for president since sometime in the seventies... and most folks are still saying... I just heard of this guy... what do you know about him? :eyes:

[europegirl4jfk]

12. Right!

LaRouche isn't taken serious by any adult interested in politics, over there is the US or here in Europe. But the sad thing is that he lures all these really smart kids in his cult.

[dsewell]

4. Some DU memories are short

Remember the Democratic primary campaign last year? Remember when two or three of the debates were interrupted by protesters standing up and shouting incoherent complaints? Remember Al Sharpton taking control and scolding them on one of these occasions? That was LaRouche's people doing what they do best, raising bloody hell because the "illegitimate Democratic machine" refuses to recognize their leader as a legitimate candidate.

[Wright Patman]

5. Anyone who is on Henry Kissinger's

hit list is bound to be doing something right, even if he is a loon.

If you examine what he was doing as a gadfly candidate last year, it was just a more extreme version of what Howard Dean was saying--that the party is controlled by DLC "New Democrats" (aka Repuke Lite).

[Senator]

6. Yes, yes, yes . . . but those kids are DOING things

I only call them kids because, well, I'm so flippin' old now.

Seriously though, the ones I've spoken with in recent months don't seem to be mindless drones of some cult of personality. My read on them is that they've just come into the political fray through a particular window. One that has a less than stellar history, and perhaps still some over-the-top platform planks.

I don't think it's wise to dismiss anyone who puts boots on the ground and voices in the air at the right time and place. And they've been doing just that.

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[Helga Scow Stern]

7. A friend of mine who is open to lots of things, but has good judgment

went to a Lyndon LaRouche gathering in Los Angeles a month or so ago.

He said the man was a nut case.

[europegirl4jfk]

8. Not even a political cult!

Be very careful with these people! Don't fall for their propaganda, it's even worse than the Neo-Cons. The LaRouchies are not even a real political cult but use their political speeches only to lure people in who are fed up with Bush. They aren't Democrats at all!

They are especially going after kids on the college campuses and brainwash them to exploit them. All these kids have to do once they are in the movement is begging for money and selling weird books and stuff at the card tables... and drag more young people in the LaRouche Youth Movement. I'm in Europe and we have them here in France and Germany too.

If you really want to know what's going on in this cult, go to the FactNet website or check the site about the British student who died under strange circumstances while attending a LaRouche conference in Germany. Here are the links:
http://www.factnet.org/discus/messages/4/358.html?1099441306
http://www.justiceforjeremiah.com/

Believe me, they aren't involved in anything concerning the roadblocking of the SS privatization or the election fraud movement. There whole political agenda is pretense to impress and lure young people in the cult.

[FogerRox]

9. They are fascists just like Bush

I volunteered in the late 90's in NJ and I ran away --very fast.

Lyndon started spending lots of $$$ in the USA after the Vatican bank heist.

Look into Propaganda Due---P2 as its known Europe

Lyndon thought he would align himself with Reagan on star wars---now he rails against regan..

Let me tell you Lyndon---
you went to the devils dance
Ate the devils food
Drunk the devils drink
Ate his food and you think you're going home at 10pm---ha hahahahah
No you got to jail

Which is what happened to him

The funny thing is Back then Lyndon thought Reagan was good--now he calls him the devil incarnate.
Well thats pretty poor judgment there buddy

We all knew that back in the 1980 race==where were you Lyndon?

[salin]

10. They are nuts.

Be very wary. Google LaRouche and AIDS you'll get a bunch of hits on one of their loonier efforts (they wanted to isolate/quarantine all HIV positive folks on an island.. then they tried to get a repressive state law passed regarding HIV patients)... or LaRouche and the Queen of England. Or LaRouche and anti-semitism. Or - simply LaRouche and Cult.

[Independent_Liberal]

13. Sounds like they're no better than the neocons...

Thanks guys. I think I'll stear clear.

[WeHoldTheseTruths]

14. You could try...

. . . posting some commentary in agreement with something LaRouche or his colleagues have said and then observe carefully what happens. That's what I'm doing and it's fascinating.

Simply doing everything you can to support election reform is arguably a much easier row to hoe, though, and is much needed. Dare I say that a conspiracy is trying to subvert transparent and verifable elections and take over the U.S.A.?

Welcome to DU, Independent_Liberal. :hi Look forward to "seeing you around."

P.S. Most of the magazine "Executive Intelligence Review" is free on the internet, so you don't have to pay anything to have a look and judge for yourself.

http://www.larouchepub.com/

I just went there to copy the link and saw a pic of Congressman John Conyers speaking at a LaRouche Political Action Committee meeting March 23 in Detroit. Surprise! I guess Conyers isn't afraid of their "cult." The pic is at link above.

[WeHoldTheseTruths]

15. Read the Conyers Article!

Read the Conyers Article (right on top of the picture.)

Wow. Conyers continually blows my mind. He's critical of the LaRouche people in at least three places in his short speech, and has excellent things to say and strongly promotes dialog.

I think it is to EIR's credit that they publish it too.

[garybeck]

16. I got a phone call just like that

but they only talked about SS privitazation, not election fraud. And it wasn't really about brining him down, it was about blocking his efforts.

[NationalEnquirer]

17. NUTBAGS!

THey've been around a while, and believe me, they attack everyone who is NOT a LaRouchie.
They were after Clintons administration too. Total whackjobs.