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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:18 AM
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WHO's Scrubbing SCREVEN???? And Need Diebold PCMCIA Card Size
OK, tonite's goodie... Screven County Georgia results...
This from the official Screven County report sent to me via
Open records..

Why was there a predicted voter turnout of 72%
by Cathy Cox (on her official press release in october)
http://www.sos.state.ga.us/pressrel/102604.htm
and an actual voter turnout of 78% in Georgia... WHERE DID THE 6% come from??? We think they made up 'phantom votes' to give Bush his edge....

ok, so let's look at this turnout figures in SCREVEN.. Ready for this madness...

SCREVEN COUNTY:
Turnout 78.26%

President: Total Registered
Votes / Voters
Times Counted 5981 / 7642

US Senate 5981 / 7642

PSC 5979 / 7642

US House 12 5981 / 7642

State Senate 23 5979 / 7642

State House 157 5979 / 7642

District Attorney 5979 / 7642

Clerk of Sup Ct. 5979 / 7642

Sherriff 5979 / 7642

Tax Commissioner 5979 / 7642

Coroner 5979 / 7642

Solicitor General 5979 / 7642

County Comm.2 678 / 939

County Comm.3 963 / 1185

County Comm.5 847 / 1113

County Comm.6 953 / 1128

BOE2 678 / 939

BOE3 963 / 1185

BOE5 847 / 1113

BOE6 953 / 1128

Court of Appls. 5979 / 7642

Const. Amndmt. 1 5979 / 7642

Const. Amngmt. 2 5979 / 7642


IS IT REALLY POSSIBLE FOR EXACTLY 5979 Voters to vote exactly the
same in 12 different races and then 5981 in 3 races for a very statistically similar pattern in 15 counties?? This is very odd..

ALSO..... NEED SOMEONE TO TELL ME THE MEMORY SIZE CAPACITY,
CODE SIZE and vendor of the PCMCIA cards within Diebold AccuVote Touchscreens.

THANKS!

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:31 AM
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1. Some good stuff on this page.
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 01:33 AM by Carolab
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:33 AM
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2. THIS IS GREAT INFORMATION
where can I find that WA report?

does it mention the size of the PCMCIA cards?

was not aware there was a hard drive inside the AccuVotes.. new news to me....
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:35 AM
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3. I just posted the link for you in my edited reply.
Hope it helps!
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:52 AM
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4. LOVE THE INFOR.....
give me enough to stay up for hours...

sleep deprived are my middle name....

you are suweeeet to pop me the info....


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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:09 AM
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5. Maybe it's just me but the data you're presenting is a little confusing.
At the top you mention one county, Screven, then at the bottom you mention 15 counties. Do the numbers you posted somehow represent the results from 15 counties or just one (Screven)?

Also (if I may play devil's advocate for a moment) it looks to me like, out of the 7642 registered voters, 5981 came out to vote. Out of those 5981, 2 voted only for the federal level races (President, US Senate, US House) and 5979 voted for offices at all levels. While this does seem somewhat unlikely, I don't find it all that surprising; some people are only interested in the high profile federal races. Or am I completely misunderstanding your data?
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:29 AM
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6. RACES not counties.. sorry will edit
meant 15 races (notice all the candidate races where 5981 or 5979 showed up)...

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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 05:20 PM
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17. Okay, that makes more sense. Thanks for the clarification.
It should have been obvious to me.
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:30 AM
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7. Well you weren't supposed to have Straight Party Voting in GA
so it's not that, or is it???
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:51 AM
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10. you mean 5979 people
straight party voted?

you mean for 12 individual races, 5979 people all voted exactly alike (and 5981 on exactly the other 3 races), like let me say almost every other county has 100 or 30 or 250 difference in each of the different races.. that's why so odd.. compared to my 20 other GA counties I"m auditing this seemed like it just jumped out at me as a computer error stuck on the same number...
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 02:10 PM
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16. Yes
SP voting means one race controls all the others.
If the voter selects that one, all the others follow suit automatically. Supposed to be illegal in your state, right?
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:43 AM
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8. Here are the specs you asked for (plus a little more)!
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 03:58 AM by Carolab
http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,115608,pg,4,00.asp

Most (85 percent) of the e-voting machines that will be used this November are built by one of three companies: Diebold Election Systems, Election Systems & Software, and Sequoia Voting Systems. Here's what the machines are made of.

Diebold Accuvote-TS

400-MHz Intel PXA-255 CPU
Windows CE
64MB of flash memory
Removable 32MB-128MB PCMCIA smart card for vote storage
9-by-12-inch touch screen


ES&S IVotronic

25-MHz Intel 386EX CPU
Proprietary OS
Three 2MB NVRAM audit log and image storage caches
Removable NVRAM or 16MB-196MB CompactFlash for vote storage
13.5-by-10.4-inch touch screen


Sequoia Voting Systems

National Semiconductor Geode CPU (300-MHz Pentium equivalent)
Proprietary OS
32MB (or greater) CompactFlash
Removable 128MB (or greater) PCMCIA card for vote storage
9-by-12-inch touch screen
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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:49 AM
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9. YOU are a goddess

one day, my dear, let history remark, that at 3:49, you gave me the information I needed to bring down a giant dishonest, fraudulent election vendor.....

tired, must sleep now... congrats... this is great info....
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 03:53 AM
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11. My pleasure.
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 04:11 AM by Carolab
My little man is dancin'...

Cheers!

P.S. I fixed the PC World link (it was broken in the original reply)
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eomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:24 AM
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12. rigel99, can you clarify?
You say a couple of times that 5979 voters voted exactly the same. If I understand your table, it's not that they voted the same, it's just that they voted. Is that correct? In other words, these are turnout figures for all parties and all candidates summed together and don't tell us who anyone voted for or which party anyone is registered to - it just tells us how many voted in each race.

So what's funny about these numbers is that the expected drop-off in down ticket races doesn't show up. Every voter (except for 2) who voted for President, Senate and House also voted in all of the state and local races.

This result can't be produced by adding 6% phantom votes on top of a 72% typical turnout because the 72% portion would still have to have this weird characteristic of no down ticket drop-off and therefore wouldn't be typical.

Also, the 78% turnout by itself doesn't seem like much of an argument that phantom votes occurred. You would expect some variation up and down from county to county with an average at the state level of 72%. You wouldn't expect every county to be 72%.

I agree that this data looks very strange and suggests that either someone cooked it or there was some serious error in the equipment. But I don't see anything here that suggests there were phantom votes for President. It actually is more suggestive of phantom votes for state and local races. Maybe someone wanted to rig the local races? Or maybe the whole data set is fictitious and was created by someone who didn't know there's supposed to be a down ticket drop-off?

By the way, I am a believer that the exit poll is correct and that the difference between the exit poll and the official count is due to rigging of the official count for President. I just don't see how this particular turnout data by itself gives much support for that belief.



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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:29 PM
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13. YES need to clarify
the 5979/5981 effect has no direct correlation to the Turnout being 78% versus Kathy's predicted 72%, so you are correct, I am mincing theories here, sorry.. I have not shared all the data I have to suggest the turnout is wrong on this particular thread.....

I have other evidence and work to suggest the turnout number was cooked but have not scanned that in nor ready to discuss yet at this moment. The only thing I will point out is just how many counties landed on that magical 78% turnout number which again suggests that the machines seemd to just spit out the same numbers..

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eomer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 12:49 PM
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14. Thanks
So there are other ways that the data looks cooked that go beyond this one county.

Very interesting... we'll all look forward to the details when you're ready.

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rigel99 Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 01:06 PM
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15. it's merely a timing thing..
I am trying to scan in everything for the world to decide and that includes sometimes boxes worth of DRE tapes, etc... with patience I will try to get one entire county online for you guys to chew on....

thanks for your support!
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-05 06:50 PM
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18. Chill Rigel!
Edited on Fri Apr-01-05 06:55 PM by Bill Bored
And respond to my straight party voting theory.

This is an ILLEGAL MACHINE CONFIGURATION in your state AFAIK.
Isn't this the sort of thing you're looking for (among others)?

As far as the exit polls, GA was within the margin of error, I'm sorry to say, although there was a small shift toward Bush in the vote tally. This is one reason I don't put too much stock in those polls, although I'm willing to entertain the idea that they may have been right.
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