KERRY WON OHIO! LOOK AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND REJECT THE RW BS!

[TruthIsAll]

Kerry won Ohio.
Easily.
That's why Blackwell won't do a real recount.

That's why I have reposted this thread.
Because the numbers say Kerry won.

What do we have now? The Reluctant Unemployed Ohio Bush Responder?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x364450

[m.standridge]

1. This is the data that appears

here at DU in a post of a few months ago, as an image file that I've linked to from my Site.
It seems to show Kerry actually carried Ohio.
I'm going with it, for now.
There's been a back and forth, it's a CNN election night post, which changed from 12:30 to 1:40
That's the same time-frame when all those other coincidental turnarounds started happening in all those other races around the nation.
I don't know what the percentages were, perhaps that's where the exit polls were slightly in error, who can get it perfectly?
It might have been close--that would explain why it's so hard to clearly define the exit poll "error" versus the official result.
It's sad we don't have election time-frames in place that are realistic enough to give enough time to count the votes. These 1700s time-frames, just don't work anymore.

[Old and In the Way]

4. I'd like to see a "how it was done" documentary on the stolen election.

We have enough smoking guns to do in an NRA convention....what would help is an overview as to who it was probably accomplished. That would help the people who can't really grok the data.

Michael Moore, your country's calling.

[Old and In the Way]

2. Missed it the 1st time.....

thanks TIA. You are one focused person! :-)

[jojo54]

3. WE know that Kerry won Ohio

it's the "other people" who don't realize this (or maybe they just don't want to believe their so-called honorable leader would LIE. OH MY!).

The real question is what do we do about it? Unfortunately, there are too many hands in the back pocket of Bushco and no one has lit a fire under the rear-end of those pants. What we need is someone associated with the administration (a page boy or intern, something like that) or someone associated with the Ohio board of elections, to step up and sing loud and clear. This in turn leads to another conspiracy theory of mine - that Commander Koo-Koo Bananas is pushing hard for these judicial nominees so that once the story breaks that he REALLY didn't win '04 ('00 for that matter), the judiciary chiefs will be HIS people and declare that the entire administration can't be impeached. In the end, we will not have Mr. Kerry placed in the W.H.

[indepat]

5. If Kerry won Ohio, did he not win the 2004 election?

[1956]

6. Ah, that's the rub.

I know things will turn around, but we need someone willing to come out!(just like one of you said) That someone should have bodyguards 24/7, cuz we wouldn't want that person to just "disappear" or "commit suicide". Reward money? That wouldn't work, I guess. But something should!! Maybe just the honor of knowing they have saved their country! Argh! Now I'm all excited again about the possibilities. Ah, the waxing and the waning!

[racaulk]

8. Yes

The "official" electoral vote count was Bush 286 to Kerry 252. If Ohio's 20 electoral votes were awarded to Kerry, he would have won 272 to 266, giving Kerry the victory.

[smartvoter]

7. We know. nt

[1956]

9. Truly it is also simplified

by the fact that Blackwell won't do a recount-I mean, why not, if everything is on the up and up? It is simple! Thier resistance tells all!!I sure wish we could give all those in question a lie detector test!! He must be completely worn down by all the pressure and neverending heat on him and Ohio. I think that if nothing else, he will slip up and get tangled in his own web of lies, before too long, just like the rest of them rethuglicans!! Oh, and I can't wait to see what the FBI unveils!!!

[smartvoter]

11. Yep. "What is Blackwell Hiding?" nt

[m.standridge]

10. Well, and how many more Electoral votes did he get

New Mexico's 5, Nevada's 5? Iowa's 7? Colorado's 9? Arkansas's 6? Florida's 27? Ohio's 20? That's 331 Electoral votes.
Sadly, we can demonstrate that he could have gotten a lot more Electoral votes, before we can demonstrate he won the Popular vote. He could have gotten all of those, and still trailed Bush, technically, by over a million Popular votes.
But everyone forgets last time, 2000. Everyone forgets now that it's not the Popular vote, in our 1700s system, that puts you over. It's these deadlines and Electors.
So, it's ok for Bush to win that way.
But not Kerry.
Kerry's a "sore loser" if he looks at Ohio for even 48 hours.
The media geared up to give a "catastrophic" spin to any recounts in Ohio directly involving the Democratic Party.
Jesse Jackson shook them out of their paralyzed fear of the news media imagery, though, when he went to Ohio.
He and Conyers are who started the ball rolling on all this about election fraud, to a large extent. Or at least who kept it national media enough to do some good--to get some media onto it.
Their tendency to just keep saying "This thing is over with can we please just get on with our lives" was somewhat embarassed by Jackson's assertions of Voting Rights Act violations.
They hadn't expected anyone to notice or point out--that they were racists.
They hadn't expected that.