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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:24 PM
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So, How Was The Nader Press Conference (With Bev, Right?)
I'm at work.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:25 PM
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1. What news conference?
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:25 PM
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2. It wasn't on the TV
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NJ_Lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:26 PM
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3. They took it that seriously, huh?

Not even C-span covered it... Lovely...
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:37 PM
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17. LOL
If they don't show it then it is very serious.

Positive for our side.
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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 02:59 PM
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4. Still waiting for word. Torture!!! War got tv time - no CSPAN. nt
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:24 PM
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5. I was home for lunch and...
figured I'd get to see it....couldn't find it anywhere
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GuardingVirginia Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:45 PM
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6. Nader Press Conference
I attended the Nader news conference in DC. They had Bev Harris speak (from Blackboxvoting). She did a great job of covering the concerns with e-voting. Lots of current and past concerns. She mentioned her concerns about the background checks on the e-voter programmers. She talked about the 'central tabulator' which all the vote are sent. She made some good points about how you to don't have to hack into each voting site but just in to the central tabulator to change the results or it could be part of the secret programing. She noted a couple of times she doesn't care who wins but the votes must be count correctly. She noted that NH had anomalies in 2000. (One might theorize that some states are slowly being 'moved' toward the other party and a trend needs to be built even if a state doesn't swing in that election). See said watch for the movie 'Votergate'.

Ralph then spoke on a boarder issue of how screwed up our election systems is. How it's wrong to have a partisan person in charge of elections. Like the loyal Republican in charge in Ohio. He said they went to NH first because it had the first recount date. More will follow if there is money. They still need money for NH.

I can say that the media seemed to be just there putting in there time but took notes and had a few good questions. Ralph gave it to the Dems. Said here is was helping out in Ohio even after they had fought so hard to keep him off. He challenged Kerry/Edwards to stand up to there promise to make 'every vote count'.

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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:53 PM
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7. Thanks, GuardingVirginia!
:hi: Welcome to DU!
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Critical Thinker Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:55 PM
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8. thanks GV
go Ralph and Bev !!!
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:55 PM
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9. Wow, Thanks!!!
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 03:55 PM
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10. Donate to Nader!
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:01 PM
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11. Man I have to really agree with Ralph --
(And that's from sopmeone who is NOT a Nader-as-politician fan.)

Ralph gave it to the Dems. Said here is was helping out in Ohio even after they had fought so hard to keep him off. He challenged Kerry/Edwards to stand up to there promise to make 'every vote count'.



HE may be the savior of democracy (not to mention the Democratic Party). Ironic, isn't it?

Thanks so much for the report!
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glugglug Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:07 PM
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12. My vote goes to Nader next time
Not that it matters...
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GuardingVirginia Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:12 PM
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13. Ironic
I was thinking the Dems fought to keep him of the ballot and now they could use him in Ohio. (it's not really a problem because Bev says if 5 voters agree to contest a election it can go forward (if they have the money) and she said she has 5000 people who want to. And the Republican helped to get him on the ballot and there he goes asking for a recount in NH to check out over-voting for Bush. It's a love-hate relationship.
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AmyCrat Donating Member (721 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:18 PM
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14. Not for nothing but the money thing...
The money thing really pisses me off.

Where is all the money people have been donating already to places like John Kerry and MoveOnPac?? Where's all the lawyers?? How about our TAX DOLLARS to pay for recounts? Why does this continue to have to be funded by the middle class slobs (like me) who pay and pay and pay?

I'm happy to donate, but I can't imagine how they keep needing more.
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JudyM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:32 PM
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15. Consider starting petition to Kerry campaign and DNC to fund recount
They already have our donations - let's make those donations work to revisit the election.
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GingerSnaps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:39 PM
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18. I want lie detector tests done on the programmers
They should also be videotaped so that we can have proof that they have in fact been tested.

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 06:02 PM
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23. Very nice summary!
Welcome to DU.

:hi:
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rhyfeddu Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 04:35 PM
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16. Yes, but how far can it go...
...if even C-Span won't cover their efforts!

I checked their stations out - the programming they DID have on instead was not pressing news (ie: the Fallujah mess).

This effort has been marginalized before its even out of the gate. "Thanks 'liberal' media!!" :mad:
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shib Donating Member (42 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:27 PM
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19. Was there..
Were there any cameras there at all?

I futily e-mailed a few news organizations to try to get them to cover it but I should have known better. Try try again.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:50 PM
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21. "Our" media are always complicit
assholes--covering up and on THE PUBLIC'S AIRWAVES!!!
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Helga Scow Stern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:50 PM
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22. That's why we are becoming the media. n/t
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-10-04 05:44 PM
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20. Thank you blackboxvoting.org and Ralph Nader
Way to go Bev!

Sonia
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