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Wed Nov-10-04 03:45 PM
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You know after we prove Fla and Ohio were rigged |
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a lot of people are going to take a good hard look at the repukes. Even the joe six pack dumb asses that think he is helping them will wake up IMO. You think so ?
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Wed Nov-10-04 03:47 PM
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1. Nope, they'll just say that the Democrats did it for years............ |
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And they would be right. The Republicans did not invent vote fraud.....
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Wed Nov-10-04 03:49 PM
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But they turned it high-tech. And they fucked with us. The people.
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Wed Nov-10-04 04:15 PM
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Who invented vote fraud if not the Rethugs?
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Wed Nov-10-04 04:22 PM
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18. I would venture that vote fraud has existed as long as voting |
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When the Democratic Party held the south, voter fraud certainly occurred, Lyndon Johnson's first House Race for example. This is why Paper Trails are so incredibly crucial. This is why, even IF investigations do not change the outcome of a single race, all fishy voting has to be thoroughly investigated.
This is a crucial reason why we have to regain power at state and local levels. State and Local governments administer elections. If there is no visibility, and God knows Republicans despise visibility, then we are truly at risk of disenfranchisement.
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Wed Nov-10-04 05:22 PM
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22. Sure there's been fraud, but never on a huge scale like this |
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that's the problem, it's nationally coordinated now.
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Wed Nov-10-04 08:05 PM
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Wed Nov-10-04 03:50 PM
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Some will and some will never believe it was rigged and some will just be happy their values are getting air and political time no matter how they got out there. I would think and hope that there are enough Republican voters who are aware of the danger this poses to our country to be very upset about this.
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Wed Nov-10-04 03:52 PM
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4. I would hope so too. n/t |
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Wed Nov-10-04 03:54 PM
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Let them do it, I am leaveing.
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Wed Nov-10-04 04:02 PM
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6. Do you really think we're going to be able to prove any |
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of this? I'm just curious. I would love to see it come to pass, but how will it occur when the mainstream media seem to be scornful of our even bringing it up and calling it our conspiracy theory.
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Wed Nov-10-04 04:05 PM
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7. WE become the media -- and then |
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we overwhelm them with the facts Start here -- VOTE FRAUD Links - a DU Compendium http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=201&topic_id=1984#And here's a sample letter (you'll probably need to amend it since it was written before NH agreed): URGENT: VOTE FRAUD? Tell everyone you know -- details http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1337662
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Wed Nov-10-04 04:35 PM
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21. if we could become the media |
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thre would have been a real 9/11 report, with sworn testimony from the Liar In Chief. The truth about the US PATRIOT Act would have been published. We would know *'s complete arrest record, the truth about his HS girl friend's abortion, his cocaine use at Camp David, LIHOP, and the monthly batterings his face seems to take.
Focus, people.
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Wed Nov-10-04 04:09 PM
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11. The mainstream media is part of the rethuglican conspiracy. |
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Wed Nov-10-04 04:05 PM
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8. They'll never come around |
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They'll find someone else to blame, or just blame us.
The next step after proving fraud will be something like:
a) impeach Bush b) Seek redress in the global courts (Supreme Court won't help us) c) Give serious consideration to seceeding.
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Wed Nov-10-04 04:07 PM
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9. Funny you should mention that........ |
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It's kind of fun to talk of secession, but really.........
We've been saying we should seceed and join with Canada. BUt then, our red neighbors will have ALL control over the nukes. Do we want that?
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Wed Nov-10-04 04:10 PM
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13. State them, then. Please. |
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Wed Nov-10-04 04:10 PM
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12. Here's our reality: If someone kicks you in the ass when no one is |
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looking, did it ever happen?
There will always be those who will think that we are trying to steal the election. The evidence may be too abstract for them because they're not good at math, and may not understand Randi Rhodes' "It's a Miracle" jokes, so I'm hoping that in the interest of this country, we get someone who wants to start talking.
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Wed Nov-10-04 04:12 PM
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14. Well, they've had four years to do so now, and I think the |
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only thing that's going to make them come forward is losing a son or daughter, or other family member, to Bush's war. I really haven't heard of any senators or reps having that happen to them, have you?
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Wed Nov-10-04 04:31 PM
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19. The pressure hasn't even begun. Are you kidding? |
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First, whoever was involved with this never expected to get caught. Once the rational world is convinced of the fraud, the next question is who would have committed the crime? Next, a tipline will be announced.
Lots of people buckle under pressure.
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Wed Nov-10-04 04:15 PM
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Kerry won! What is WITH people???!!!! GEEEEZZZZ! Quit repeating the current rethuglican mantra they've fed you!
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Wed Nov-10-04 04:32 PM
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they will think that God's hand intevened and got His man on Earth where he needs to be
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Wed Nov-10-04 05:57 PM
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23. We may be stuck with bush |
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for 4 years, but the Reich Wing will be finally exposed for the facists they have become.
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Thu Nov-11-04 10:07 AM
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I hate to sound defeated, but I was absolutely 100% sure that this would be the case THIS year after 4 years of Bush and the disaster in Iraq. I have lost faith in the american people right now...At the end of the day, the liberals will continue to be painted as mentally ill nutcases and the neocons as moral,christian leaders....
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Wed Nov-10-04 09:00 PM
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25. They may abandon the ship of sleaze like rats. But they will only |
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quit Bush as a practical consideration IMHO.
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Wed Nov-10-04 09:11 PM
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26. Joe six pack dumb asses??!! |
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Are you SERIOUS?
And people wonder why the "liberal elitist" stereotype comes from. Jesus.
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