Olbermann...more election fraud coverage tonight (wed 11/10)

[CraZdem4life]

"Tonight on 'Countdown,' we'll examine the N.C. mess (which would not include a second presidential vote), new fuzzy math in Nevada, allegations against the Democrats in Pennsylvania, Ralph Nader's news conference, and the other voting developments as they occur. A Stanford computer expert will address the vulnerability of the Optical Scanning system (and answer the question: which is easier to hack, electronic voting or exit polls?), and Newsweek's Jonathan Alter will join me to report on the reporting."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6210240/

[SmokingJacket]

1. Wow!! He's a man with a mission!

Amazing. He's putting his butt on the line here. Think the higher ups are happy about this? They must have to approve it... right? Wish I knew how those things work.

[SoCalDemocrat]

2. Great news

Everyone should write him and commend his journalistic integrity. The mainstream media is afraid to touch this story.

[AmyCrat]

3. I'll be tuning in -- glad he's still on it n/t

[jsamuel]

4. Keep emailing him positives!

[alittlelark]

5. e-mail him with THANKS!!!

[e-mail]

:D

[Mira]

6. Thank Olberman please

The more the better! Do the emailing every day. Just saying thanks at least!!
He told right off the bat about the emails he got, over 6500, and that seemed to matter.

[pleiku52cab]

23. DONE AND MENTIONED WICKIMEDIA REPORT ALSO

[clydefrand]

7. Will there be a transcript of his show tonight?

I don't get msnbc. :-(
Will be waiting to read it if there is one.

[CraZdem4life]

10. PM krkaufman

krkaufman has been recording anything thats related to voter fraud, uploading them onto his server, and putting the links in this forum. i dont know if he'll see this thread, so PM him (i would PM him myself, but i dont have that privilege yet ).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x35078

^his signature in that post has all the links for the videos so far.

[sweettater]

8. I eyed the NC mess

with some interest. A good friend's daughter whom resides (not permanently) in Virginia Beach, VA, has her mother's address which is in Elizabeth City, NC, voted for Kerry on an absentee ballot. This was mailed the middle of Oct. Two days after the election the ballot was return to my friend (in NC) Everything was properly done. The bar code had been blackened out with a marker. My friend had campaigned hard for Kerry and she was HOT! Off to the post office with little success. She is now in the process of an election office visit. There was definitely some hanky panky going on somewhere.

[Catherine Vincent]

9. Your friend should make a copy and send to blackboxvoting.org

Attention Bev Harris. I wonder if any bush votes were blacked out and returned?

[NCvoter]

12. I live in NC

and my mail wasn't picked up the day before the election. I wonder if my big Kerry sign had a part in that.

[oddtext]

11. living here,

you could feel the big Mo for kerry/edwards. it might not have worked out, but there was no FUCKING way that bush won in the cakewalk that the returns reflected. that was absolute bs. ridiculous. we don't buy it. fuck these people. who do they think they're fucking with?

i guess i'm moving on from "denial" to "anger".

[txindy]

13. Now that's a journalist on a mission

A journalist on television? Huh. It's all starting to come back to me, now. It's foggy, though, 'cause it's been so very long. ;)

What Keith has planned for today's show is no small story, either. This is going to add up in minutes. Which is easier to hack, elec. voting or exit polls? LOL! I think we know the answer to that one -- and soon the country will know, too.

Well done, Keith! You da man! :toast: Now, small planes? Avoid.

Thank you, Keith, Journalist Extraordinaire!

[RaulVB]

14. Olbermann is making a HUGE effort to give legitimacy to the report

I am a rather new participant on this forum. I would like to give not a lecture but a honest opinion about what's going with this "election."

I was born elsewhere and I guess my electoral standards are quite diffrent because they were set years ago by the UN, international obsevers and Jimmy Carter, among others. Yes, the same Jimmy Carter that weeks ago said thet "the Florida elctions could not be certified under international standards..."

I find really surprising this crisis and the DNC response for several reasons:

a) They are behaving like nothing is happening. They are deaf to 30.000 documented reports about voting irregularities on the November 2 election. And 200.000 votes "missing" for computer "glitches."

So, they want you to think that "hacking" has not been done ever before in the USA?

Or that the system is based "on faith" and the vother "confidence" in it?

What about the 1960 election?

Or the Democratic Party Chicago machine?

Or Watergate?

Or Florida 2000?

In Ohio, the counting of the votes is completely flawed, make no mistake abou it. I really admire all the honest people on these forums trying to work out a decent outcome for the past election. I am afraid is a lost cause.

b) Mcauliffe, Clinton, Carville, Begala:

I just can't believe that the gentlemen are so out of touch with reality.

How can Carville, who is married to Mary Matalin, White House "confident", be a legitimate voice for the DNC?

They are trying to ignore the possibility of massive fraud?

Business as usual for the Washington crowd?

OK, let's take in consideration what they have to deal with before the next election.

Bush "got" 8.5 million of new voters this time around. Roughly 18% over the results of 2000.

Kerry got roughly 6.5 million of new voters over the results of 2000. Include on that the 2 million of "Nader votes". So, net gain for the Democrats would be 4.5 million, roughly 8.5% over the 2000 results.

You do the math. Same or equal proportion for the 2008 election. Over 70 million of votes for the Republicans. About 60 millions for the democrats.

How dare they7 trying to convince you all that this trend in 2004 responds to demographics, wrong message or bad campaigning?

THE NUMBERS DO NOT ADD UP, GENTLEMEN!

You will not win any election for the next 5 or 6 terms, it that is your platform for the future. Those Republican "new votes" do not exist. If they do, that means that Karl Rove is the best political strategist that this country has had EVER, and he really needs to be teaching about his techniques. The guy is just amazing!

Back to the basics now. The exit polls never failed before 2002. Now they are garbage. How convenient.

Carville wants to move the party to the right. How convenient!

Clinton said to Kerry to "support the gay marriage ban" at a local level...oh, really?

Donna Brazile, give me a break!

The bloggers like "KOS" and Josh Marshall are afraid about their future. In the case of the former "a possible political career." The latter "about his status as a member of the intellectual elite", perhaps?

The American media totally absent, AWOL, on the issue of voting irregularities. They sent A CANADIAN to the front line first to tell you in your face that you are a bunch of "whackos."

Again, I admire and I support what you are doing, but this is the biggest crisis ever in this country and it is just unbelievable that the DNC, and particularly Kerry, are letting the American Democratic way of life to perish.

As that, fascist, bigot Limbaugh says, "linguini-spine liberals."

Indeed.

Regards to you all and keep up the fight!

[HEAVYHEART]

15. kick!

Thanks for the reminder!

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

16. K.O. is K.A (as in Kick-Ass!) n/t

[BlueInRed]

17. David Dill, verified voting

I believe this is the Stanford expert he is referring to.... With www.verifiedvoting.org .

BTW -does anyone know if someone is trying to do a denial of service to BBV. I've heard several reports that the site has been down a lot and that it's exceeding its bandwith. That could be either lots of hits or someone trying to shut them down.

[Catchawave]

18. Thanks CraZ.....

For letting me know where the Nader News Conference went today! It wasn't on any of news/c-span channels. Looks like Keith has our asses covered...again!

[raipoli]

22. Nader News Conf and $100,000 reward

Justice Through Music, www.jtmp.org, today posted a $100,000 reward for evidence showing vote fraud in the presidential election. See website for details. JTM announced the reward with Bev Harris and Ralph Nader at the Nader news conf today in Wash DC. In short, Ralph said that NH recount is going on but he needs more money for it, Ohio recount will probably happen through Green or Libertarian if they have the money. AP is looking into this whole episode because they were the exit pollers, lots of press were there including AP, NPR, CSPAN, -- probably 25 reporters and photogs.

[Magic_Cookie]

19. Last nights show

during the segment with Jonathan Turley (Constitutional Law Expert) a few states were mentioned, that they would have tied the election 269-269. Was that a hint perhaps or just an observation by him?

"And also remember even is he didn't take Ohio he could tie Bush 269-269 if he flipped some of those other 1 or 2 percent states like Iowa, New Mexico, Nevada. Uh, these would actuallly tie it 269/269."

[elaineb]

20. KICK, and I finally e-mailed him

Dadgum it, and I've been trying to boycott all the cable news channels since Nov. 3. Now I'm breaking my vow.

[SeekingDemocracy]

21. Does Shuster have Olbermann's back?

Shuster says he is getting involved (skeptically - but involved nonetheless)

From:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6446237/#041109c

Election machines rigged... or not? (David Shuster)

I've been inspired today by the courageous reporting of my MSNBC colleague Keith Olbermann. So, I've decided to jump into the controversy swirling around the election results in Florida and Ohio. For the last several hours, your favorite Hardball correspondent has been pouring through vote tabulations county by county.

As I've stated before on this blog, I'm going to let the chips fall where they may. And here's how they are falling right now:

Florida: Out of the sunshine state's 67 counties, 52 tallied their vote using paper ballots that were optically scanned by machines produced by the Diebold Corporation, the Sequoia Company, or Election Systems and Software.

In 5 counties where Democrats comprise at least 70% of the registered voters (Baker,Holmes, Dixie, Lafayette, and Liberty) President Bush won the county's raw vote total by a landslide. At first glance, the numbers seem awfully strange. But take a look at the 2004 numbers compared to 2000.

Baker County '00: Bush 5,610 Gore 2,392
Baker County '04: Bush 7,738 Kerry 2,180

Holmes County '00: Bush 5,011 Gore 2,177
Holmes County '04: Bush 6, 410 Kerry 1,810

Dixie County '00: Bush 2,697 Gore 1,826
Dixie County '04: Bush 4,433 Kerry 1,959

Lafayette County '00: Bush 1,670 Gore 789
Lafayette County '04: Bush 2,460 Kerry 845

Liberty County '00: Bush 1,317 Gore 1,017
Liberty County '04: Bush 1,927 Kerry 1,070

Each of these counties is in northern Florida where there are large numbers of "Dixiecrats." In other words, the voters have a lengthy tradition of being registered as Democrats but voting for Republicans in national elections.

What about other Florida counties? Across the state, the election results from '04 are not that different from '00. And political strategists on both sides say the Bush-Cheney campaign had an unprecedented Get Out The Vote effort this time around. That ground operation focused heavily on evangelical Christians concerned about "gay marriage." Yes, gay marriage was on the ballot in Florida... and it attracted a huge number of Evangelicals to the polls who stayed home four years ago. In my view, it's not unreasonable to think the Bush-Cheney campaign would have increased their Florida vote total by the number's I've examined. However, I acknowledge that some of you may be saying, "well, the optical scanning machines in these counties must have been rigged 4 years ago."

Later this week, I'll examine the numbers from four years ago and try to compare them to previous elections.

Regarding Ohio: 70% of the state used a punch card ballot system similar to the chad producing method used by much of Florida in 2000. Ohio's Secretary of State reports that more than 92,000 votes did not count. Some ballots were cast improperly (over votes or under votes) and other ballots were counted incorrectly. Furthermore, in Cuyahoga County (greater Cleveland) there were more votes cast than registered voters. The margin was not small... 93,000 more ballots cast than registered voters. As Keith Olbermann reported last night, in Fairview Park (west of Cleveland) there were 13,342 voters registered... but 18,472 votes were cast. And last week, Ohio officials acknowledged that in the town of Gahanna (just outside of Columbus) in one district with only 800 voters, a voting machine added 3,893 votes for President Bush.

What does it all mean? In Ohio, there are definitely more questions than answers tonight. In Florida, I'm not so sure. But, our review continues...