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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:22 PM Original message |
'Breaking' (not really new - article title) - Diebold Source Code |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. OH MY...... Drool....... |
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HeeBGBz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Damn, this is getting stinkier by the minute n/t |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. He "accidentally" got his hands on the source code? |
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CraZdem4life (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
38. diebold |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
79. Rubin could've found it on the floor. We shouldn't make any assumptions. |
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MadAsHellNewYorker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. now thats a smoking gun |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
4. Ohhh...this is what happens when you piss off the net nerds. |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:39 PM Response to Reply #4 |
36. "this is what happens when you piss off the net nerds." |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:55 PM Response to Reply #36 |
82. Yeah, what's their problem, anyway? You'd think they didn't want the draft |
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ramblin_dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
6. Why is this "breaking" news |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Maybe they just found it |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I just repeated the title of the article at Kos - true, not breaking |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
81. Agree about forwarding it |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. You also have to make sure that code is used everywhere |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:37 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. Almost doesn't matter |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
46. Sure it matters. Maybe that macro is never used. |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. It was used |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 05:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Got a link to the ZIP? |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 05:24 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. It's a tar file, not a zip |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 05:26 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Nice birdie |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 05:32 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. One other thing |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
73. Must be a lot of comments. |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:23 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. There are |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:30 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. //************************************************************* |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:37 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Nothing that incriminating |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 07:00 PM Response to Reply #54 |
83. So, EVERYBODY who reads that code online knows the hard-coded key? |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
7. WHAT. THE. FUCK. |
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Boredtodeath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. It's there...and it was posted on DU in July 2003 |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
9. Can we move the Democracy security alert level to red yet? |
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GingerSnaps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
10. Source code dating back to 1997? |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Of course, it could have been upgraded |
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Eloriel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
34. No, it was the same stuff n/t |
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GingerSnaps (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. Cobol would be my guess |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:43 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. It was written in C++ |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
72. You have no way of knowing however....... |
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merbex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
12. Now NH looks really critical |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
13. Oh yeah that's not a "bug", that's a "feature" |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
14. Haven't we known about this for a while now? |
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Jersey Devil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. apparently yes, but I didn't and I bet the media didn't |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
40. IIRC, the DES was used to encrypt the actual memory flash cards |
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GuardingVirginia (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
15. Current software? |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
35. See post #33 |
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phasev (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-11-04 10:39 AM Response to Reply #35 |
102. exactly |
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Middle Finger Bush (108 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
80. this is technically true |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 07:30 PM Response to Reply #80 |
88. The version in question had already been used in an election |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 07:36 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. CVS and tar files |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 07:40 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. I dont' know anything about their actual setup |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 07:49 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. I was just pointing out one of those things that make you go hmm |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 07:47 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Actually the OS for the voting terminals is WIN CE....... |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 09:49 PM Response to Reply #93 |
101. kicking |
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Flubadubya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
16. Care to elucidate for us NON-nerds? .... |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Big picture: It shows that Diebold has a bunch of sloppy programmers... |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 07:18 PM Response to Reply #16 |
84. Think of it as something akin to this -- |
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methinks2 (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
18. thanks for the info |
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Flubadubya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. Thank you... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
19. oh my, the plot thickens, now if we could get anybody tio care |
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Arioch (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. DES is still used |
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Flubadubya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. WHAT DOES IT MEAN???? |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
23. Something fishy about that |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. They copied and pasted it wrong |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:42 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. That makes a little more sence - But ... |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:44 PM Response to Reply #29 |
44. That looks more like it should. |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:46 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. It appears in the code just like it appears in tridim's post |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:51 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Could someone post a bigger code fragment |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:52 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. No, we shouldn't |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 05:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I understand about DMCA |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 05:29 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. I found this document that might help |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 05:44 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. That helps |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 05:47 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Yes, even a simple aggregate checksum would be an obvious step |
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artv28 (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 07:50 PM Response to Reply #57 |
95. central tabulating machines |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 08:02 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Yes, that is still true |
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riverwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:34 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. tech people: what does it mean? |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:36 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. It means that all the voting machines used the same password |
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Flubadubya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. You've proved the old adage right, nice grandma... |
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jsascj (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 07:56 PM Response to Reply #30 |
96. I know how you feel... |
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htuttle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
28. I hope we already knew this |
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tex-wyo-dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
32. One of the most alarming things is that... |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 07:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
85. Kind of like the check they gave that other company. |
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da_chimperor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
37. Fuck me . . . how is this possible? |
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ElementaryPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
48. Yikes! THIS EXPLAINS IT! |
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GuardingVirginia (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
53. Diebold in court in Kallyfornia |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 05:26 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Main stream corporate media seems to want to draw and quarter the man |
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ParanoidPat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 07:25 PM Response to Reply #55 |
86. Secretary of State Kevin Shelley was also accused of wrongdoing....... |
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Curtis (125 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 05:34 PM Response to Original message |
59. Why didn't |
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raipoli (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
60. $100,000 Reward for Vote Fraud Evidence |
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TexasChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 05:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. raipoli, this is great news! Maybe we are finally getting somewhere with |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:05 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. that is a great idea! |
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mcg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:21 PM Response to Reply #60 |
74. I'll post this as a new thread |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 07:26 PM Response to Reply #60 |
87. Now that's a truly excellent idea! |
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jsascj (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 08:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
98. Send that message to |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
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TexasChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 05:56 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Thanks, Freeptard! Little nervous about your Chimp being exposed as |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:00 PM Response to Reply #65 |
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dbonds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:03 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Then just sit back and laugh |
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TexasChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:03 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Really? Well, your precious Chimp is as about as ugly as a patch of |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:03 PM Response to Reply #65 |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:06 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Thanks for the picture of Repub. civility and polity. n/t |
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jsascj (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 08:21 PM Response to Reply #67 |
99. Name removed doesn't have much to say, does he? |
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mcg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
76. These guys make ATMs, they can't say they didn't know any better. |
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txindy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 07:32 PM Response to Reply #76 |
90. True, and if their culpability in this security issue is exposed |
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jsascj (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 07:31 PM Response to Original message |
89. What? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-10-04 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
100. This reinforces my theory about the Diebold system |
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