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Pobeka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 07:35 PM Original message |
An idea for automated vote counting using optical scan. |
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. why is it so difficult to put a paper into an envelope |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 07:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. European & Cdn elections have.. |
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 08:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. you don't have to run them the same day |
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oscar111 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 08:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. EU must elect city officials like we do: so they must have hand counts of |
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oscar111 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 08:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Toqueville wins: Hand Counts are do-able |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 08:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. "The Holy Grail" indeed... |
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 08:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. what's so pristine with hand counting ? |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 08:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Sure, I look forward to ... |
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 09:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. come on, don't distort facts |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 10:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Don't avoid the point: |
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 10:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. there is no reason to use a machine |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 10:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Sorry, there is such a thing... |
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 11:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. the system is working in Europe and Canada |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 11:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Difference is not size, but quantity of races. |
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 11:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. OK how many elections do a state of the size of California |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 11:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Post of DUer who actually.. |
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tocqueville (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-05 12:23 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. OK then use machines ONLY for the small local elections |
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oscar111 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 08:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Toss ALL machines: complexity invites new tricks |
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Pobeka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 09:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. The difficult part is in the counting. |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
9. This is what I think some Op Scan proponents think is going on. |
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Pobeka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 08:46 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Would it be less error-prone than hand counting? |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 09:20 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Given how many under/overvotes there can be, |
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Pobeka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 09:39 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. I was thinking in terms of testing the system. |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 09:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Looks like we're on the same page: |
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Pobeka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 09:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Yep. |
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Bill Bored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 10:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Which audit? |
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Pobeka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 11:04 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. No, I mean the audit serves 2 purposes. |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
26. What's wrong with the Open Voting Consortium's system? |
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Pobeka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-05 11:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Because it is programmable. |
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Carolab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-05 12:01 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. So, you've studied it, then? |
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Pobeka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-05 12:11 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. No, I haven't looked at it closely. This is my guess from 50,000 feet. |
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Pobeka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-05 12:54 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. This is scary stuff. |
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yowzayowzayowza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-05 12:18 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Despite Open Source, |
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Pobeka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-05 12:25 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I think open source is a red herring. |
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