THE TROLLS ARE GETTING DESPERATE. LET'S KEEP KICKING THEIR ASS.

[TruthIsAll]

We are making them look more and more foolish by the minute.

They're up to no good, but I'm glad they're here. They help us sharpen our case.

Every time one of us comes out with a mathematical argument, they go apeshit.

Jeez, it's great to have the TRUTH on your side.

[DELUSIONAL]

1. Amen to that -- says an atheist

[Catherine Vincent]

2. So true. I just outed one and the thread disappeared.

One down and several to go! Lol!

[noonriser]

15. Me too! Can't stand to read their shit. (nt)

[theorist]

3. Trolls?

[mhr]

7. Looks Like A Freeper To Me!

eom

[ParanoidPat]

10. That one is quite cute compared to some of them that are here.....

.....right now. :evilgrin:

TIA, have you seen these links?


http://election.princeton.edu/

http://mysterypollster.typepad.com/

http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/issr/da/index/techinfo/M10031.HTM

[patrice]

4. They are surfacing in various listserves too.

Boy! They're coming out of the woodwork. I was told I should be "strung up by the neck" the other day. This evening I got my butt kicked for posting about Bush the anti-Christ.

[NVMojo]

11. That freeper has no clue about the love of Christ....

what a jerk.

[aquart]

13. I got tossed off a soap opera list

For saying that the Republicans have American and Iraqi blood dripping from their hands.

But I suppose that doesn't count the same.

[patrice]

18. Also running into some blatant racism. n/t

[Mike Niendorff]

5. just alert and be done with them

To debate a troll is to give them credit for reason and intellectual honesty that they simply do not have.


MDN

[Cronus Protagonist]

6. No kidding. It's been amusing, to say the least

:)

Here's a sample of their efforts:

1/ Even if Kerry won, he shouldn't take the presidency. Let George keep it because.... (he'll have to wallow in his own shit, etc.)

2/ Even if there is fraud, it's not good enough to win the electoral vote without the popular vote because... (no mandate, GOP attacks, etc.)

3/ Even if there is fraud, we shouldn't talk about it because... (the media/country can't handle it, etc.)

4/ If there was fraud, it must have been across ALL the states, and we need to show that as well because... (they're really throwing crap at the fan here)

5/ "We" lost. Let's get over it and move on... (spreading the defeatist meme that worked so well on Democratics in the past)

Any more?

[Nordic]

9. I've never seen so many trolls on DU

they're really coming out of the woodwork.

We must be doing something right. :)

[alittlelark]

8. They are everywhere, and a number of them are very good

at head games and diversions. Higher class bridge dwellers than the norm.

[Kellis]

12. FREEPER TROLLS

Kiss my true blue ASS :kick:

This story is coming out!Move outta tha way or get run OVA!

:kick:

[SomthingsGotaGive]

14. I agree but please consider

DU has been high profile for the past week and some new people are a little further up the rabbit hole than many of us , as such they have a hard time coming to grips with the nightmare we find ourselves in.

[Jersey Devil]

16. They're like flies on horseshit tonight

You guys with the numbers are really getting to them and the media seems to be, greatly reluctantly, waking up.

[Nitro]

17. Please, I'm not a troll. Just give this some thought.

1. I have no doubt the presidential election was stolen with e-voting - NO DOUBT!

2. I understand why we are pursuing NH for the recount. I see how it get the ball rolling.

3. I think we are being tricked.

WHY?

The 57-41 and 58-41 exit polling results were a plant. The Repukes obviously had access to the early exit polls before anything was leaked, and they knew what the results would tell everyone: a sure Kerry win. They knew that after they manipulated the machines, people would surely find out about it using statistics and common sense (like we have).

So what did they do about it?

They went and changed one. They manipulated the NH exit poll results so we would call for a recount in a state that requires a paper trail, which would "confirm" that no cheating occurred (and possibly this is why Nader has answered our call - no, I don't trust him. How could I?).

Why do I believe this?

I remember seeing two early exit polls, and the one most people weren't using polled Kerry up by 3% in NH(the one not leaked from the NEP). In this less used poll, Kerry had basically the same margins as he did in the NEP in the other questionable swing states (but not NH).

Remember, the evidence of vote fraud isn't strong in NV, which requires a paper trail, and ME, which doesn't use e-voting. Do you actually think the Repukes hadn't considered NH's paper trail? Please people, come to our senses. We can't let them use NH to tell us were wrong!

Just look at all this:

This is from some message board on election day:
*
Wonkette sez: Repub Luntz's numbers... (none / 0)

5:25 p.m.
From an email circulated by Frank Luntz:
Way too close to call/BUT leaning Kerry by 1 percent
Fla.
Ohio
Pa.: 54 percent for Kerry
Wisc: 3 point lead for Kerry
Iowa.: 1 point lead for Kerry (Bush supposed to win)
NM: Kerry plus 2
Nev: Bush plus 1
NH: Kerry by 3
NJ: 8 points for Kerry
Colo: Bush plus 2
Mich: Kerry plus 4

http://forums.windrivers.com/showthread.php?t=65809
*

Notice how every other state matches with the early exit polling, except NH!!!!

Also check out this post here about exit poll numbers:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Another clue:
Zogby had +5 for Bush in his pre-election polling. +10 and higher is outside of the MOE.

Rove eagerly pointed out the huge "lead" in NH on FOX:
http://www.registerguard.com/news/2004/11/09/ed.edit.ex...

Also, here:
NRO's Kathryn Jean Lopez proffers the following set of numbers at 5:28 PM:

Kerry-Bush
FL 50-49
OH 50-49
PA 54-45
WI 51-46
MI 51-47
NH Kerry +3

NV 48-50
CO 46-53
NC 49-51
MO Bush +11

http://www.danieldrezner.com/archives/001709.html

And here:
NUMBERS WE'RE SEEING
WARNING: I'M REPORTING WHAT WE ARE SEEING. IT DOES NOT MAKE IT THE FINAL RESULTS. ONLY THE VOTERS DO THAT. (And excuse cap letters, but everytime I warn, half the readers tell me I should have warned and the other half say I am pathetically desperate.
Kerry-Bush
FL 50-49
OH 50-49
PA 54-45
WI 51-46
MI 51-47
NH Kerry +3

NV 48-50
CO 46-53
NC 49-51
MO Bush +11

http://www.nationalreview.com/thecorner/04_11_02_corner...

Also, please read this article again, and pay careful attention to the part on NH:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/03110...

Remember, Kerry became the first Democrat since Woodrow Wilson in 1912 to beat a sitting Republican president in New Hampshire. Do you really think he would win by 18 points, out of nowhere?!? And why were these specific numbers leaked so heavily and reported by on by the same corporate media who said they wouldn't discuss exit poll numbers?!?

We're relying on rational thought and statistical proof to conclude that Bush cheated. Please use the same rational approach to statistics to realize it didn't happen in NH!!!!!!

FOR GOD'S SAKES, WERE BEING TRICKED INTO PROVING OURSELVES WRONG!!!!!! DO NOT GO THROUGH WITH THE RECOUNT IN NEW HAMPSHIRE!!!!! THEY MANIPULATED THE EXIT POLL DATA TO THROW US OFF FROM THE REAL FRAUD!!!!!!!

[flaminbats]

19. trolls love presenting their arguments, but never respond to others..

"I'm not trying to push *'s agenda, it just looks like it's going to happen anyway and I'm looking to make the best of it.

I'm still willing to hear your ideas!"

[Moderator]

20. I'm locking this thread

Reason:

not helpful and leads to paranoia .