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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:35 PM
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The Sins of Ralph Nader
1. He earned a reputation for himself. What arrogance! While he was busy earning a reputation for himself, the truly great were busy failing. Failing gives people an opportunity to help you and that makes people feel good about themselves. Meanwhile, Nader was busy making people question the wisdom of their consumption choices. Nader was making people feel bad about themselves.

2. He decided to become politically active in a party other than one of the two major parties. Elitist! The vast majority of people cheer on one of the two big parties. Apparently the tastes of the vast majority aren't good enough for old boy Ralph.

3. He caused the Democratic Party to lose the election.

Here is a helpful analogy. Suppose all employees at some company get equal say in the decision of who to hire for an important job. There are two major candidates for the job: candidate A and candidate B.

Now along comes candidate C, supported by only 2.6% of employees.
Now, the lunatic fringe will say that a good voting system should be able to handle the existence of candidate C. No, the voting system is perfect. The blame goes to candidate C.

The moral is: never apply for a job unless you know that you have a fair chance of getting hired. The danger is that the company will hire the wrong applicant! If the company doesn't sue you for throwing a monkey wrench into their decision-making system, then you can count yourself lucky.

In summary, Ralph Nader is obviously an arrogant elitist who should be blamed for the Democratic election loss.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:40 PM
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1. frist!!!11
:popcorn:
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Clarkansas Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:40 PM
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2. I blame Ralph for saying there was no difference between Gore and Bush
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 09:47 PM
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16. I agree. The differences are huge.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:43 PM
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3. I'm wondering how this thread contributes to election reform
and why it wasn't posted in GD? :eyes:

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Boredtodeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:46 PM
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4. I'm wondering
How this thread relates to ANYthing, particularly reality.

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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:49 PM
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6. You've got a point
Nader has very little to do with reality.
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Boredtodeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:56 PM
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8. As does the OP
Do you REALLY believe a company can sue someone for APPLYING for a job?????

You CAN'T be serious........you're funnin' me, right?

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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:00 PM
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11. A question like that makes you sound reasonable.
I hope you're not another one of those arrogant people who are trying to earn reputations for reasonableness.

"Do you REALLY believe a company can sue someone for APPLYING for a job?????"
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 02:48 PM
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18. Would you like me to look for threads not clearly related to ANYthing
and send a PM of links to those threads so that you can post messages on them?
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:47 PM
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5. Reform is step two. Step one is admitting that there is a problem.
Edited on Thu Jan-19-06 07:48 PM by Boojatta
If I may repeat myself:
Now along comes candidate C, supported by only 2.6% of employees. Now, the lunatic fringe will say that a good voting system should be able to handle the existence of candidate C. No, the voting system is perfect. The blame goes to candidate C.

The moral is: never apply for a job unless you know that you have a fair chance of getting hired. The danger is that the company will hire the wrong applicant! If the company doesn't sue you for throwing a monkey wrench into their decision-making system, then you can count yourself lucky.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:49 PM
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7. How long have you been reading this forum?
lol
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:57 PM
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9. Are you suggesting that this thread doesn't contribute to election reform
because the issues raised in this thread have already been raised enough times and do not need to be raised again?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:02 PM
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12. No. I was wondering how anyone who has read this forum for more
than three days can possibly suggest that anyone around here doesn't know that a great deal is wrong.

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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:16 PM
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13. "A great deal" is rather vague. You specifically said "I'm wondering how
this thread contributes to election reform."
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:19 PM
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14. Not vague at all to people who read this forum.
This Green is adding you to the list of people who waste my time. Have a good journey.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 07:57 PM
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10. This is how History will remember Nader.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 08:26 PM
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15. Nader is a self-serving ass.
He equated a President Gore with a President Bush. That ought to be enough for even the dimmest of wits to write him off. Some, alas, can't see it.

Nader is obviously a useful idiot for the right.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-20-06 02:57 PM
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17. Why should a voter's approval of Nader at the ballot box prevent the voter
Edited on Fri Jan-20-06 02:58 PM by Boojatta
from also expressing approval of Gore at the ballot box?

Citizens for Approval Voting

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