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windy252 Donating Member (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:39 PM
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What's the point
I thought this movement was making good some inroads into getting a fair election, but it seems with each passing day, there's more and more evidence of fraud. How do I not give up when after '04, I'm expecting our candidates to not be able to wait more than 12 hours to say "I give up!"
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jackpan1260 Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:42 PM
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1. I'll never give up. No matter what. eom
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GuvWurld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:59 PM
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2. Here is some perspective for you
Election reform is not a goal unto itself but rather a tactic toward peaceful revolution (.pdf).
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:21 PM
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3. this might help....

Thomas Paine
American Crisis (1780-83)
1/19 I - The American Crisis: December 23, 1776



THESE are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot will, in this crisis, shrink from the service of their country; but he that stands it now, deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value. Heaven knows how to put a proper price upon its goods; and it would be strange indeed if so celestial an article as freedom should not be highly rated.

December 23, 1776.


* The present winter is worth an age, if rightly employed; but, if lost or neglected, the whole continent will partake of the evil; and there is no punishment that man does not deserve, be he who, or what, or where he will, that may be the means of sacrificing a season so precious and useful.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:59 PM
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4. I'm glad he did give up
why walk right in to their trap, they would have liked Kerry to stay front and center after the election, that would have given them plenty of cover to hide the evidence of the stolen election.

What Kerry did (whether he knew it or not), gave the election reformers a two month jump on the crooks. Instead of watching Kerry run from one court to another the reformers went right to work, And right now there are a lot of people that know exactly how the elections get stolen, and thats a good thing.

My two cents. NGU

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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:52 PM
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5. Never give up.
yes it is bad. never give up. the good guy always wins, at least in the movies.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 03:53 PM
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6. Never give up. The vote isn't ours to surrender, 'member?


:hi:
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:16 PM
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7. power contests nothing, unless we contest it. SO I will vote & Organize
And fight back.
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