NBC with Brokaw just had a report

[Action Jackson]

I gotta run, but it was a negative report. What frustrates me most about these latest reports is that nobody is mentioning the insecurities of the machines and how vulnerable they are to hacking.

They never interview the computer scientist experts. We need to get more of the nonpartisan computer scientist experts on the air to explain how bad these machines are and how easily they are hacked into. And nobody is mentioning the lack of a paper trail which leaves recounts impossible. I really don't understand why these basic facts are being ignored in the current crop of mainstream stories.

[Carolab]

1. Brokaw is a TOOL

of this administration.

Pay no attention to him. Do not watch him.

I doubt that writing to him and telling him where he is wrong would do a damn thing.

[Nordic]

15. they're ALL tools. Except for Olberman

they're all just corporate mouthpieces

[GuardingVirginia]

2. W Post

The Washington Post mentioned Caltech-MIT was working the issue. I wonder what they've come up with? I keep hoping an accountant or statitician jumps in. Can't you just see a group of college students up all night pouring over the data!

[Dancing_Dave]

7. Avi Rubins Students at Johns Hopkins Already Are

Going over the Diebold source code, and have found major hole which could facilitate fraud:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/10/1172/9052

[Qutzupalotl]

9. Step one is proving that it's possible.

It's step two we need--proving that it happened.

On edit: By that I mean, if we know it was done via modem, we should be able to prove it with phone records.

[Eloriel]

11. This isn't news and it was only the code for the DREs, not

the GEMS code, which tabulates the votes centrally. Their contribution is important, but I wanted to point this out.

Here's another really good article, even tho Rubin dismisses the idea of fraud and, again, doesn't make it clear he and his team didn't look at anything but the Windows-CE based DRE code.

Jewish Times link 10/29/04: http://www.jewishtimes.com/scripts/edition.pl?now=10/29/2004&stay=1&SubSectionID=48&ID=2435

[Sparkly]

12. DAMN!!

All commercial programs have provisions to be encrypted so as to protect them from having their contents read or changed by anyone not having the key..The line that staggered the Hopkin's team was that the method used to encrypt the Diebold machines was a method called Digital Encryption Standard (DES), a code that was broken in 1997 and is NO LONGER USED by anyone to secure prograns.F2654hd4 was the key to the encryption. Moreover, because the KEY was IN the source code, all Diebold machines would respond to the same key. Unlock one, you have then ALL unlocked.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/10/1172/9052

[bluedonkey]

3. Don't take their

reporting to heart.Listen to them.YES! But DON"T let them get to you!
MSM is the enemy! Sounds dramamtic and coocoo,but I'm neither.They try to make us give up!
Don't let up!Keep going til THEY get the message.Remember THEY screwed us in 2000!

[PretzelWarrior]

4. because they don't care. they WANT this to be discredited

because their ownership wants to continually have the finger of control on the results between two somewhat bland candidates and the LESS business-friendly one will lose every time from now on.

Believe me, there will come a time very soon when the federal regulatory agencies STOP dealing with companies who lie to customers or prosecuting those who make a faulty product.

It is going to be one big "fuck Americans" decade. The USA is a mature market. Just like with mature products in a product life cycle. It's all about no more innovation on the product. Only on maximizing profits and minimizing expenses.

We are going to see the cases go up by a factor of 1000 where American citizens are well and truly fucked by faceless corporations with no one sitting in a seat of accountability.

The NETWORKS' owners WANT THIS. So to their advertisers in increasing numbers.

[Verve]

5. Please someone email Chip Reid and Tom Brokaw

about their one sided story. I'll be able to later tonight but gotta put dinner on the table. Chip Reid had the nerve to infer that the 4000 extra Bush votes in Ohio was just a story, along with other inferences. Why didn't he do his work and actually call up the county? Also, when he finds out that this is actually true and finds out that the county has no idea why this happened maybe he can take that little brain of his and infer that just maybe it happened in other areas. Especially if they don't know what caused it.
As frustrating as this story was at least it's starting to be covered.

[Jack_Dawson]

6. [e-mail]

Get him!

[Eloriel]

13. Here's a point to share --

They consistently don't do anything but promote the "official story" rather than report the news. The "official story" is that there was nothing wrong or untoward about this election. The FACTS are otherwise, and they are apparently either too lazy or too indebeted to the power structures in this country to report anything but the easy, and often wrong, "official story."

[Benhurst]

8. Tom Brokaw is a stooge. Was he all teary tonight about

"the Greatest Generation?" I wish he'd gather up his oedipal problems and take a hike.

[driver8]

10. NBC / Brokaw

What has happened to good ol' fashioned "Journalism"? Does anyone practice that anymore, or do they just hear one story and add their spin to it?

I am so f*cking sick of these people dismissing stories before they have even looked at the evidence. What a bunch of dipshits.

[PATRICK]

14. ALWAYS they ignore

any real details about the horrible premises of GOP private companies and their sh&tty software and the GEMS and everything. They always meme it to kid hackers and other "repairable "glitches". Diebold might as well be writing the reports I've seen in the media who betray invincible ignorance and parroting the corporation for the most part.

[jimmyp]

16. Names of Computer Scientists?

I totally agree with you. Do you have names of computer scientists?

[jackstraw45]

17. I thought Brokaw was GONE after the election...what a rip-off!

General Electric Propaganda Network hasn't retired him off as promised yet?

[AmyCrat]

18. Here's the Article on MSNBC's website

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6463505/
<snip>---
Internet theories on election abound
Even Democratic Party officials discount claims of unfair practices

President Bush declared victory eight days ago, but in the parallel universe known as the Internet, the presidential campaign is still raging. Web sites hostile to the president claim massive vote fraud, that the election was stolen, that Sen. Kerry really won.

Presidential candidate Ralph Nader says Republican officials in Ohio skewed the election towards Bush.
---<snip>