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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 09:40 AM
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tavis smiley on e-voting
just wanted to post my sketchy recollection of the tavis smiley discussion on e-voting on sunday.
although there were some moments when i was white knuckles on my steering wheel, over all, it was pretty good. i do not recall who his guest was. not someone i recognized. she seemed fairly knowledgeable, and mentioned something that i do not recall hearing about- machines set to training mode on election day and recording no votes at all.
tavis took the tack of "what will it take for people to trust e-voting? we trust our atm's, credit card purchases on the web, why don't people trust e-voting?" the guest went through the basics of how one insider could easily change the count. her knowledge was ok, although she seemed little fuzzy on the difference between an atm receipt and a paper ballot.
the whole discussion was extremely low key, which i guess is what you have to do on npr these days. but pretty accurate, and ending on a note of- reliable, trustworthy machines are 5-10 years away. today, they can not be trusted.
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emlev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 11:00 AM
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1. Thanks for posting this EOM
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:15 PM
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2. Sounds about right 5 - 10 years away.
That's only a few more election cycles right?

How about finding us one of those archive thingies on NPR.org?

Thanks for the post!
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:45 PM
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3. ok, took some digging
and some detours. (i did not know that they cut snowball from the santaland diaries.)
but here ya go.
http://www.tavistalks.com/TTcom/TSradio/H1_DonnaByrd072106.html
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 10:21 PM
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6. Thanks! Listening now. Great job! nt
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Stevepol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 04:53 PM
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4. Great to see this getting on NPR. I've stopped listening to NPR
much. Stopped after they just went with the flow in the Iraq War, as if everything was just hunkey-dorey starting an immoral and illegal war that would obviously kill an enormous number of people based on highly dubious reasoning. They have also been asleep at the wheel with regard to the electronic voting theft of American democracy.

It just seems that you should talk about it when it could hardly be more obvious.

Maybe I'm expecting too much.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-25-06 07:36 PM
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5. the pedaled as softly as they could
that's for sure. but at least it is out there, and out there with a very important audience. i know i couldn't have discussed it as calmly. i suspected that the reason tavis left npr had to do with the election. he started off speaking about it soon afterward, then boom he was gone.
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