Here are Indiana figures..President/Senator

[shraby]

Kerry's figures are closer to the Rep. Scott and Bush's figures are closer to the Dem. Bayh. There was a "glitch" the gave Kerry's numbers to the Libertarian Party in several counties, but the number of votes isn't that great..I think it was around 700 altogether. I'll go back and see if there are any figures on votes cast besides % of turnout.

Dem Dem Rep Rep
County..........Kerry...Bayh.....Bush...Scott

Adams............3512...7551.....9734....5476
Allen...........46385..73567....80586...52543
Bartholomew......9191..16507....19093...11422
Benton...........1135...2501.....2797....1400
Blackford........1903...3694.....3447....1609
Boone............5636..11074....17055...11343
Brown............2730...4336.....4512....2803
Carroll..........2689...5163.....5863....3330
Cass.............4315...7873.....9480....5829
Clark...........17648..26054....24495...15091
Clay.............3333...6928.....7361....3629
Clinton..........3335...6600.....8471....5011
Crawford.........1932...2832.....2609....1572
Daviess..........2573...5891.....7934....4445
Dearborn.........6596...9264....14231...10675
Decatur..........2621...6173.....7499....3808
DeKalb...........4810...8523....10468....6520
Delaware........20436..32312....27064...13627
Dubois...........5210..11166....11726....5560
Elkhart.........17966..31186....42967...29168
Fayette..........3626...5961.....5761....3212
Floyd...........13857..20898....19877...12412
Fountain.........2477...4532.....5260....2955
Franklin.........2299...4597.....6978....4396
Fulton...........2607...5264.....6027....3324
Gibson...........5378..10110.....9133....4289
Grant............8509..16620....18769...10189
Greene...........4606...8336.....8609....4402
Hamilton........26388..48001....77887...54408
Hancock..........6891..14510....20710...12899
Harrison.........6171..10094....11015....6824
Hendricks.......13548..24844....38430...26441
Henry............7176..12666....13137....7312
Howard..........12998..21732....23714...14776
Huntington.......3877...8125....11617....7103
Jackson..........5092..10071....11083....5944
Jasper...........3678...5727.....8056....5772
Jay..............2740...5117.....5425....2845
Jefferson........5117...7794.....7763....4764
Jennings.........3538...6349.....6864....3944
Johnson.........13109..27149....37765...23330
Knox.............5647..11128.....9988....4273
Kosciusko........5977..12554....22136...14574
La Porte........21114..28826....20916...11685
LaGrange.........2523...4865.....6430....4006
Lake...........114666..130357....71844...49880
Lawrence.........5346...9132....12207....8064
Madison.........21882..34379....32526...18541
Marion.........162249..210107...156072..104819
Marshall.........5593..10111....12074....7293
Martin...........1522...3297.....3414....1587
Miami............3867...7299.....9548....5935
Monroe..........26965..33821....22834...14396
Montgomery.......3536...8651....10901....5635
Morgan...........6650..12878....19197...12498
Newton...........2032...3225.....3756....2475
Noble............4703...8853....10859....6527
Ohio.............1139...1572.....1796....1282
Orange...........2885...5056.....5683....4818
Owen.............2536...4538.....5000....2851
Parke............2362...4480.....4550....2249
Perry............4131...5790.....4137....2234
Pike.............2418...4209.....3745....1765
Porter..........29388..39876....34794...27565
Posey............4085...8052.....7833....3523
Pulaski..........1750...3328.....3797....2236
Putnam...........4102...7683.....8906....5184
Randolph.........3812...6625.....7172....3943
Ripley...........3510...6212.....8224....5282
Rush.............2000...4316.....5363....2962
Scott............3822...6070.....4793....2435
Shelby...........4519...8986....11397....6717
Spencer..........3920...6495.....5934....3317
St. Joseph......52637..75340....55254...31372
Starke...........3987...6108.....4846....2762
Steuben..........4345...7447.....8433....5070
Sullivan.........3341...6072.....4999....2099
Switzerland......1479...2148.....2161....1404
Tippecanoe......20818..32766....30897...18002
Tipton...........2202...4554.....5665....3141
Union............1045...1777.....2266....1417
Vanderburgh.....28767..46088....41463...21242
Vermillion.......3424...5468.....3536....1480
Vigo............18426..29828....20988....9307
Wabash...........3918...6851.....9607....6313
Warren...........1356...2357.....2565....1454
Warrick..........8980..15572....16930....9260
Washington.......3879...6270.....6915....4304
Wayne...........10775..16081....16586...10821
Wells............3112...6532.....9168....5583
White............3277...6667.....6974....3589
Whitley..........3880...7405.....9512....5761

<http://www.in.gov/apps/sos/election/general/general2004>

Voter turnout its a pdf file
:
<http://www.ai.org/sos/elections/2004%20Municipal%20Registration%20and%20Turnout.pdf>

Whoops I tried to line the numbers up.

[ewulf]

1. Bayh doing much better than Kerry isn't in itself surprising

or in any way worthy of suspicion. We know that Scott voters are almost certainly Bush voters, and Kerry voters are almost certainly Bayh voters, but many people did vote for Bayh and Bush; if we see a larger than average Bush margin in a county with a larger than average Bayh margin, that is cause for concern.

[ShaneGR]

15. Amazing how well Bayh did there...

Say what you want about that Dem, but that Dem knows how to win.

[shelley806]

2. Thanks for the post Shraby--I linked it to another thread

you might want to know about. Link is:



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=203&topic_id=44109#45191


Edited for link fix...

[ahyums]

3. wouldn't Indiana be an odd place to do anything suspicious though?

[Beetwasher]

4. No, It Would Be A Good Place To Increase Bush's Popular Vote Margin

Because everyone expected him to win there and maybe they wouldn't notice and extra 10,000 or so votes for Bush...

[shelley806]

6. Bingo! eom

[LisaLynne]

9. Link to what type of machines were used in each county ...

This is from the Sec of State site.

http://www.in.gov/sos/elections/voters/vot_sys.html

Ugh! Meant to post that under a different post. Oh well. :)

[imaginary girl]

8. Not when you consider that Bush's friend

Mitch Daniels was running for governor (and won)

[Nordic]

11. why? It's tucked between Ohio and Illinois

and Illinois went to Kerry and Ohio could have as well (and may have)

[shelley806]

5. KICK!

[Hobbes199]

7. voting machines -- Simple pattern?

I'm wondering if there might be a simple pattern for the machines increasing the votes. Something like giving the top candidate (usually the incumbant) the skewed vote — or maybe just skewing all the votes toward the top. It would be harder to find in the code, rather than looking for any (R) in the pres/senate and skewing that way.

Like in the previous example, did Bayh and Bush both appear earlier in the selection list? How were the candidates listed in Venezuela? Or 2002 democratic primary in FL?

[Nordic]

10. Wow. More suspicious numbers, another dot to connect

this shit's piling up pretty pretty high now .......

[Guava Jelly]

12. arent franklin county indiana recounting

because a computer glitch put all straight dem ticket votes into the libretarians column

[shraby]

13. Yes they are, these are the old numbers

there weren't a terribly lot of Libertarian votes for president..don't remember exactly how many but the figure 14,000 some odd comes to mind.

[shelley806]

14. Do you have the numbers for absentee voters yet? eom

[Be Brave]

16. Does anyone know where I can find exit polls for Indiana? n/t

[VTHoosierPatriot]

17. Indiana

There may be some suspicions about the governor's race, but there was no way Kerry could have made an impact in IN. Clinton was competitive but east coast liberals won't sell with the Bible Beaters. On the other hand, Evan Bayh's corpse/pet dog/stool sample could get elected here, but of course he is one of the most frequent democrats on Fox News (moderate).

[Metatron]

18. Kerry did make an impact.

Marion County went blue for the first time since '64. Pretty big deal for those of us in Indy.

[althecat]

19. A Suggestion.... Convert No's To % & Sort Data

Shraby, this is fantastic but a bit hard to read.

This data will be much more useful if you add a couple of columns to it. & Sort it.

Add a few columns in a spreadsheet
1. Calculate % of the vote figures Bush/Kerry Dem/Rep Senate for each of counties.
2. Calculate the difference between them i.e. Bush-Kerry Rep-Dem
3. Then calculate a figure that shows the difference in the two races ie. the Presidential GOP majority - the Senate GOP Majority
4. Then sort the table by this final field.

You will end up with a table that shows which counties show the biggest differences in the races. And then you have some trends you can write a commentary on.

[althecat]

20. The following shows an example of what I am talking about.

The following shows an example of what I am talking about above.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=19390&mesg_id=19390

See the sorted table at the bottom..

In it we see...
IND --|-- 1474475 --|-- 1242372 --|-- 232103 --|-- 18.7% --|-- 5945720 --|-- 68.7%

Bush gained 18.7% on his 2000 figs there. In that respect it is smack bang in the middle of the red states in terms of Bush vote gain. And near the national average.