Bill Bored
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Tue Oct-24-06 06:01 PM
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Please DU This Poll About E-voting! (And K&R!) |
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OK, you know what to say folks: Would you prefer Suffolk County (NY) to upgrade to electronic voting machines or keep the old lever machines?http://www.cablevisioneditorials.com/So far we're at: Electronic 17% Lever 83% Can we do better? Please K&R!
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Tue Oct-24-06 06:05 PM
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Tue Oct-24-06 06:07 PM
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2. I don't like either choice. |
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The only choice worth considering is paper ballots that you mark with an X and are hand-counted by non-partisan election staff.
So yes, you can do better.
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Tue Oct-24-06 07:29 PM
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6. No problem. You may record an intentional undervote. nt |
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Tue Oct-24-06 06:17 PM
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Tue Oct-24-06 10:49 PM
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Edited on Tue Oct-24-06 10:51 PM by Bill Bored
:hi: Now 89% to 11%!
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Tue Oct-24-06 11:57 PM
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8. I pulled the LEVER KNR |
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Wed Oct-25-06 10:38 AM
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10. Thanks New Jersey! (One more needed for the front page!) nt |
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Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 10:39 AM by Bill Bored
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Wed Oct-25-06 12:42 AM
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And PA is voting on WHAT now?
They should have read the law.
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Wed Oct-25-06 10:49 AM
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11. Here you go, Bill, I just 'R'ed it to the Greatest Page. (eom) |
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Wed Oct-25-06 02:22 PM
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16. Thanks! Gore would be President if FL ran the 2000 election on levers... |
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Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 02:24 PM by Bill Bored
...because they don't allow overvotes!
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Wed Oct-25-06 12:03 PM
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12. done. lever at 94%. n/t |
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Wed Oct-25-06 02:02 PM
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14. Levers are not as good as paper |
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But it's definitely better than electronic. The only problem is that those lever machines are getting very old, and if they break down, I wonder if they still have parts available to repair them.
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Wed Oct-25-06 02:17 PM
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15. They don't fail as often as DREs and DREs are ALLOWED to fail |
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Edited on Wed Oct-25-06 02:25 PM by Bill Bored
under federal standards -- a LOT! See: http://www.votetrustusa.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1851&Itemid=26And so are scanners. Parts? I would think a machine shop could make parts for lever machines, but how do you fix a proprietary electronic vote-counting system? A trip to Radio Shack maybe, assuming you can reverse-engineer the thing!
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Wed Oct-25-06 03:00 PM
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Thanks for the link. The lever machines I vote on in Suffolk County, NY are fairly old, and I heard someone say last time that they haven't made new lever machines in many years, and the old ones can't be repaired. But I actually have no idea whether that's true or not, and in any case you make a good point that parts could always be made.
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Wed Oct-25-06 10:56 PM
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it's now at:
Electronic 5% Lever 95%
not too shabby. :dem:
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Thu Oct-26-06 06:42 AM
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Fri Oct-27-06 02:00 AM
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23. what if the entire country used levers in 2008? |
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Imagine how hard Rove would have to work to ship out little metal files all over the country.
Agh, no modems, no wireless, no ballot definition files, no freezing screens.
Shoot, it would be too hard!
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Fri Oct-27-06 03:26 PM
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24. And you could tell that something was amiss by the high undervote rates! |
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Edited on Fri Oct-27-06 03:32 PM by Bill Bored
In 2004, they were < 1% on levers, which was among the lowest of all methods. And unlike the other stuff, undervotes on levers actually mean something because that's about the only thing that can go wrong with them.
A high undervote rate would lead to an immediate investigation, the results of which would have to be accepted by both sides based on the physical evidence that the machines had been tampered with.
Looks like the poll is finished. I think it ended up 95% to 5% in favor of keeping levers. Thanks to all who participated!
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